WordWolf

"There are a lot of things in my life that I thought were real and ended up being fake. Why can't the opposite be true?" "Rejection. That's what makes a college great. The exclusivity of any university is judged primarily by the amount of students it rejects." "Why, what happened?" "Some political crap. I got a zero on my SAT's." "You do know you get 600 points just for signing your name right?" "Ask me about my wiener!!" "I want to learn how to blow sh* up with my mind." "Nah, I'm not going to answer your question, 'cause you guys have already made up your minds. I'm an expert in rejection, and I can see it on your faces, and it's too bad that you judge us by the way we look and not by who we are, just because you want us to be more like them when the truth is we're not like them, and I am damn proud of that fact! I mean, Harmon College and their - their 100 years of tradition. But tradition of what? Of hazing kids and humiliating anyone who's a bit different? Of putting so much pressure on kids they turn into these - these stress freaks and caffeine addicts." "Your phony school demeans real colleges everywhere!" "Why? Why can't we both exist? Huh? You can have your grades, and your rules and your structure and your ivory towers, and then we'll do things our way. Why do we have to conform to what you want?" "Your curriculum is a joke, and you, sir, are a criminal." "You know what? You're a criminal. 'Cause you rob these kids of their creativity and their passion. That's the real crime! Well, what about you parents? Did -did the system really work out for you? Did it teach you to follow your heart, or to just play it safe, roll over? What about you guys? Did you always want to be school administrators? Dr. Alexander, was that your dream? Or maybe no, maybe you wanted to be a poet. Maybe you wanted to be a magician or an artist. Maybe you just wanted to travel the world." " Hi there! What's your name? My name's Abernathy Darwin Dunlap but you can call me A.D.D. on the account of the fact that I have A.D.D., which is attention deficit disorder. You know - everyone used to think it was just an addiction to sugar when I was 6 and my mom used to cry because she thought I would never be like a fully functioning member of society like my neighbor who has Legionnaires' disease." "I told ya." "It was your idea to put 'acceptance is just one click away.'" "Yeah, you put it as 'one click away! You don't make it... clickable!" "When I got accepted here, it was the first time my parents ever said they were proud of me!" "Hey Shrad, do you know any places up near Harmon we can rent?" "Oh, yeah I do, actually. I carry around a list with me at all times of abandoned buildings for fake colleges." "Okay cut the crap Bartleby. Society has rules and the first rule is: You go to college. You wanna have a happy and successful life, you go to college. If you wanna be somebody, you go to college. If you wanna fit in, you go to college." "Well, you know what? Maybe I didn't get into college!"

Jennifer Garner Elektra Terrence Stamp

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"There are a lot of things in my life that I thought were real and ended up being fake. Why can't the opposite be true?" "Rejection. That's what makes a college great. The exclusivity of any university is judged primarily by the amount of students it rejects." "Why, what happened?" "Some political crap. I got a zero on my SAT's." "You do know you get 600 points just for signing your name right?" "Ask me about my wiener!!" "I want to learn how to blow sh* up with my mind." "Nah, I'm not going to answer your question, 'cause you guys have already made up your minds. I'm an expert in rejection, and I can see it on your faces, and it's too bad that you judge us by the way we look and not by who we are, just because you want us to be more like them when the truth is we're not like them, and I am damn proud of that fact! I mean, Harmon College and their - their 100 years of tradition. But tradition of what? Of hazing kids and humiliating anyone who's a bit different? Of putting so much pressure on kids they turn into these - these stress freaks and caffeine addicts." "Your phony school demeans real colleges everywhere!" "Why? Why can't we both exist? Huh? You can have your grades, and your rules and your structure and your ivory towers, and then we'll do things our way. Why do we have to conform to what you want?" "Your curriculum is a joke, and you, sir, are a criminal." "You know what? You're a criminal. 'Cause you rob these kids of their creativity and their passion. That's the real crime! Well, what about you parents? Did -did the system really work out for you? Did it teach you to follow your heart, or to just play it safe, roll over? What about you guys? Did you always want to be school administrators? Dr. Alexander, was that your dream? Or maybe no, maybe you wanted to be a poet. Maybe you wanted to be a magician or an artist. Maybe you just wanted to travel the world." " Hi there! What's your name? My name's Abernathy Darwin Dunlap but you can call me A.D.D. on the account of the fact that I have A.D.D., which is attention deficit disorder. You know - everyone used to think it was just an addiction to sugar when I was 6 and my mom used to cry because she thought I would never be like a fully functioning member of society like my neighbor who has Legionnaires' disease." "I told ya." "It was your idea to put 'acceptance is just one click away.'" "Yeah, you put it as 'one click away! You don't make it... clickable!"

"Some people say they will never believe Another promise they hear in the dark, Because they only remember too well They heard somebody tell them before. Some people sleep all alone every night Instead of taking a lover to bed. Some people find that it's easier to hate Than to wait anymore. I know you don't want to hear what I say. I know you're gonna keep turning away. But I've been there and if I can survive I can keep you alive. I'm not above going through it again. I've not above being cool for a while- If you're cruel to me I'll understand. Some people run from a possible fight, Some people figure they can never win. And although this is a fight I can lose..." "You know you only hurt yourself out of spite. I guess you'd rather be a martyr tonight. That's your decision- But I'm not below Anybody I know If there's a chance of resurrecting a love. I'm not above going back to the start To find out where the heartache began. Some people hope for a miracle cure, Some people just accept the world as it is. But I'm not willing to lay down and die..."

18-22 years old. No, seriously, 2006.

"There are a lot of things in my life that I thought were real and ended up being fake. Why can't the opposite be true?" " Rejection. That's what makes a college great. The exclusivity of any university is judged primarily by the amount of students it rejects." "Why, what happened?" "Some political crap. I got a zero on my SAT's." "You do know you get 600 points just for signing your name right?" "Ask me about my wiener!!" "I want to learn how to blow s* up with my mind." "Your curriculum is a joke, and you, sir, are a criminal." "You know what? You're a criminal. 'Cause you rob these kids of their creativity and their passion. That's the real crime! Well, what about you parents? Did -did the system really work out for you? Did it teach you to follow your heart, or to just play it safe, roll over? What about you guys? Did you always want to be school administrators? Dr. Alexander, was that your dream? Or maybe no, maybe you wanted to be a poet. Maybe you wanted to be a magician or an artist. Maybe you just wanted to travel the world." " Hi there! What's your name? My name's Abernathy Darwin Dunlap but you can call me A.D.D. on the account of the fact that I have A.D.D., which is attention deficit disorder. You know - everyone used to think it was just an addiction to sugar when I was 6 and my mom used to cry because she thought I would never be like a fully functioning member of society like my neighbor who has Legionnaires' disease."

"I know you don't want to hear what I say. I know you're gonna keep turning away. But I've been there and if I can survive I can keep you alive. I'm not above going through it again." "You know you only hurt yourself out of spite. I guess you'd rather be a martyr tonight. That's your decision- But I'm not below Anybody I know If there's a chance of resurrecting a love. I'm not above going back to the start To find out where the heartache began."

Find some people with a common interest. Become an engaging guest speaker, or something. That last one probably is up your alley. I've heard it said that the best way to have friends is to be one. I don't know if you were skipping that step.

So, in your experience, twi's in-house, 4-year training program, where they spend 4 years of a person's life- at the person's expense, teaching the person doctrine, practice, conduct, and so on, produces practice and conduct WORSE than the people who never entered that program. Doesn't that say something about twi?

"I know you don't want to hear what I say. I know you're gonna keep turning away. But I've been there and if I can survive I can keep you alive. I'm not above going through it again."

"There are a lot of things in my life that I thought were real and ended up being fake. Why can't the opposite be true?" " Rejection. That's what makes a college great. The exclusivity of any university is judged primarily by the amount of students it rejects." "Why, what happened?" "Some political crap. I got a zero on my SAT's." "You do know you get 600 points just for signing your name right?"

The problem was, what to link to from Justin Long. I don't want to strand the thread. Oh, wait, I can do this.... Accepted Jonah Hill the Invention of Lying

Must be the 80s retrospective on the threads this week or something. :) We went from "Losing My Religion" to Edie Brickell and the New Bohemians' "What I Am."

Couldn't be THAT obscure if you got them that quickly. Inspiration struck on that. I thought those were decent shows, myself.

This 80s TV comedy was about a teacher whose personality is broken up into its parts, each of which is represented on-screen at times, as if we can see how he thinks. He's a teacher for a classroom of exceptional students.

[WordWolf in boldface and brackets.] Whew! Let me get this straight. [That opening, from some posters, means we're cutting to the heart of an issue. From some other posters, that means we're going to CONCEAL the heart of an issue. Let's see which one this is. If it's the latter, maybe we'll determine why it's so.] Walter was head of research so he HAD to be privy to the bad stuff, [Walter was head of research so he HAD to be privy to the RESEARCH. When John S (Research staff) came out with his paper (research) saying "adultery is bad" (really elementary research for a Bible student), Walter was well aware of it- buried it, and helped characterize it as evil, saying that whoever READ it would be in peril of devils infiltrating their thoughts. That's not even counting what he [iadmitted[/i] to being privy to separately. If you are in charge of something, you are privy to it and it is your responsibility. vpw liked to pretend he knew lots about the military, but all his characterizations of them were fictional and based on movies and none on the experience he never got. If he HAD gotten experience, he might have learned something simple to the officer training at any level- when you're in charge of something, you're responsible for all of it and if it goes right OR wrong, you are responsible. This is considered really simple for a lot of people, including people who never entered the military. Walter was in charge of research. The Research Department dropped the ball on adultery in a general sense, and when the issue came up in a good research paper, the response was the opposite that would have been taken if anyone RESPONSIBLE was in charge (someone WORTHY of responsibility, someone who could take a stand for truth and right rather than just write a paper and think the work ends there with no moral duties.] but Ralph D was trunk leader, international outreach cordo, etc. but he says he had no idea what was going on and you blindly believe him. Nice double standard. [supposing neither knew anything before it all came to a head, each should have been a bit better. (Walter should have had research saying what the Bible REALLY says and Ralph should have known more about what was going on. I give both the benefit of the doubt on that, until things were brought to their attention. When Ralph learned about women victimized, he didn't bury the news, he did something about it- and was punished for standing up for what's right and true. He was threatened, menaced (legal definition), and kicked off grounds for it. We all know that without anything "blind". When Walter learned about the adultery paper, he buried the paper and kept his job- not suffering any consequences because he maintained the same established, CORRUPT order that was doing wrong. We all know that without anything "blind." We all know who left when, and who was forced out. We're using a rather fair standard-judging by their deeds. You're doing everything to avoid saying that vpw and the people he personally groomed did the opposite to Scripture- committed adultery, set up opportunities to commit more adultery, and set up a whole structure to facilitate it- from grooming the targets to monitoring the victims and savaging their reputations if they showed signs of doing their legal and civic duties and reporting it. What vpw and his cronies did was wrong. It was right to write a paper saying "adultery is wrong." John S did that. It was wrong to bury a paper saying "adultery is wrong." Walter did that. It was right to say "rape and molestation is wrong" and do something about it. Ralph did that. It was wrong to punish people for speaking up about it. vpw's cronies did that. You want to absolve Walter for what he did and blame Ralph for what he did. I don't know what kind of "standard" that is, but it's seriously bent.] Is it not true that you are the self appointed pope of gsc and since Ralph has kissed your ring by being penitent you absolve him, but Walter hasn't been penitent yet so you can't absolve him...aww...whatever. [it is no true. This sentence was nonsense that detracts from the discussion. One guy did the right thing, and that's been noted. One guy did the wrong thing, and that's been noted. This whole "pope" thing was inserted nonsense.] In a related matter, Kris in her book says she was at Gunnison in VPs office and he left the room for a bit and she saw what he was writing and it said unflattering things about jews and she was horrified. She made it sound like she JUST THEN realized VP had issues with jews. What? I don't think so. Stanley Reahard posted on waydale that in 1981 she was at a night owl at HQ with VP and he said that the USA fought on the wrong side during WW2. Kris' account happened AFTER 1981. She knew! [so, 1) You're saying vpw was wrong in REPEATED STATEMENTS pro-Nazis and anti-Jews 2) Kris and Stanley were part of a bunch of people who heard these REPEATED STATEMENTS 3) People who worked on-grounds-who got little sleep each night as has been reported-should still be intellectually alert late into the evening after getting up early and working all day and still being at it into the night- and should have stopped in their tracks mentally and reevaluated the nonsense that was sprung on them late at night As someone who wasn't there, you're forgetting critical details you weren't present to see. The racist tripe was saved until people were walking zombies and less likely to catch it and say "Wait, what?" Yes, Kris and others didn't catch it. However, people who are exhausted are mentally dulled and vulnerable to tripe. That's probably why it was sprung on them then. vpw seemed to save the antiBiblical stuff for late at night rather than after breakfast or after lunch. So, she was present. It's understandable she might have been completely zoned out and waiting for a chance to fully go to sleep. She may not have even HEARD what was being said. Being exhausted does that. Heck, being in a repetitive business meeting during the day after enough sleep can lead to a person zoning out. Why should it be a surprise that someone could miss something under "extreme conditions"? Maybe she heard it and didn't evaluate it because she was exhausted. Maybe she didn't even hear it because she was exhausted. MAYBE she knew-but the evidence seems against it.] But you certainly absolve her as well. [No. First of all, you brought her up. Second of all, you missed critical details. Everyone who was in twi bears some responsibilities for what they did, depending on exactly what they did and did NOT do. Kris is no exception. You're the one who's introducing "black and white thinking" into this. Walter seems like a nice guy who did some horrible things when someone said "adultery is wrong." He saved his cushy job at the time, and has never said anything like "it was a poor decision to disagree with what the Bible said to support an organizational structure." I can own MY mistakes, and I do. It keeps me honest and it keeps me trying harder to avoid making them again, or making new ones.] I don't give a damn about kissing your papal ring. [That's fine, since nobody here-except you- suggested either a physical or a metaphorical ring, papal or not. Hm, you posted that at 8:30am. I was hoping you had the excuse, at least, of being able to say you were tired and not at your best. You were awake and alert posting that. I can't "absolve" you of that post. Too bad.] After leaving twi, people have the freedom to be free of nonsensical tripe being spewed, being blamed for the failings of those who led, and absolving those who led and failed. They also have the freedom to KEEP that nonsensical tripe. As we can see from this thread, they're free to do either. As we can see from this thread, most people seem to prefer freedom from nonsensical tripe. We're happier that way.

Is that "One Tree Hill Street Blues"?

*wild swing* Otis Redding's "Sitting on the Dock of the Bay"?

Burt Reynolds Cannonball Run Jackie Chan

*applauds* Got it in one.

A writer is raised by a single mother who chose to have him alone, leaving him to find his way in a world that doesn't understand him. While driving, he witnesses a man crash his car, and blurt out to witnesses present about a missing fortune hidden in a park, and they all race to the park to try to claim it.

Star Trek 4-The Voyage Home Alone

It should be easy to spot intellectual cowardice if one is being honest. If someone is more concerned about TRUTH and HONESTY than security, then one will take TRUTHFUL positions even when it jeopardizes their security. If one is intellectually cowardly (or simply exercising intellectual cowardice at the moment) then the truth will be BURIED or ATTACKED when it is inconvenient. Let's see- which did Walter do when the decisive moment came? After being the research head of a group and someone who's full-time job was to see that proper research was done, which affects doctrine, he himself failed to come up with anything saying "adultery is wrong." That's peculiar, since it doesn't take any kind of degree to find that in Scripture. Let's say it was a lapse because the subject never came up. Ok, so it never came up-until one day, it did. Someone came out with a research paper that demonstrated what nearly every Christian knows, since it's so freaking easy to see- that the Bible says adultery is wrong. The HONEST response, the BRAVE response, is to review the paper, see that it was actually correct (it IS correct and anyone can see that-if it wasn't, then refuting it was correct) and then come out agreeing with it. Specific actions would proceed from there. The INTELLECTUALLY COWARDLY thing to do, the thing to do if one cares more about a comfortable living and less about the communications of God Almighty to us on the Earth, is to bury the paper, claim it was error, threaten the person into silence (easy if one's group has goons who have experience) and spread propaganda against reading it. Which did Walter do? Walter buried the paper. When it came up again, he said it was error. twi's bullies DID try to silence the writer- for saying adultery is wrong- and the official report from his office was that people would GET POSSESSED reading a paper that said ADULTERY IS WRONG. That's pretty much a predictable response for someone who is being intellectually cowardly. Since then, has he EVER come out with a repudiation and said "It was actually correct, but I was being strongarmed into disagreeing with it" now that he has had DECADES to reconsider and now that we can all see that this "get possessed if you read it" thing was exposed as NONSENSE? No. He has, however, maintained a comfortable career as a Bible teacher. Intellectually, that's COWARDICE when the heat was on, and determination to maintain that cowardly position once the heat was off. If he came forth and told the truth now, he WOULD NOT wake up like others did in twi, with someone at his door, armed and telling him to get out now. On the other hand, there were others who did the right thing even when it was inconvenient to them, when others THREATENED them. Try reviewing what Ralph did and what was done to him as soon as adultery problems were brought to his attention. I don't owe John S anything- and I certainly don't raise him to hero status- but HE did the right thing on adultery AND showed courage when the heat was on. Walter did the opposite-and was part of the reason heat WAS on John S. Like I said, intellectual cowardice.

And anything is easy to MISS if you're dogmatic about it.