WordWolf

Since the invention of smaller motors, LOTS of people have done tricks with "moving-body-part-severed-from-the-body". Shop around. You can buy LOTS of them in retail stores- novelty shops, costumers, indie S/F companies...

To 'walk' with your hands at a walking pace TAKES YEARS OF PRACTICE. Interesting how he does his stunts over concrete, and this one was done over a lawn, where it would be comfortable to walk on your hands or barefoot. No-you saw what the bystanders saw. And no "midget" was involved. That woman had adult-sized body-parts--you saw that. And who said a SECOND midget would have been used anyway? Her supposed upper half was active. NOBODY was looking at the lower half. Which was in a SKIRT. Not pants. Only person in a full-length skirt in the area. She was not wearing trousers. They're tricky to get into if you've hurt your foot, for example. NOW do you get it?

I dunno. How could they deny Mrs W homecare and kick her out of her house? I know they did it, but I can't see how they COULD.

IIRC, which I may not, the release-title of that movie was "THE KLANSMAN", and it was supposed to show how the Klan saved this country. The book I can recommend that mentions the reconstruction is "Lies My Teacher Told Me", by James Loewen. It addresses the SOCIOLOGICAL bias of "history" classes- that is, "this is a great country and has gotten better as time has passed", which puts a spin on simple reporting of events, and the "history as myth" thing, which makes historical figures into legends, not humans. Legitimate controversies get bleached out, and only what fits the mold gets reported. So we lose things like white Southerners who were opposed to slavery, post Civil War Northerners who entered the South and actually DIDN'T go to bleed the South dry, and the entire life of Helen Keller after she was a child. It doesn't fixate solely on one time-period. It addresses the overview and uses several textbooks as examples, and goes thru the history of the US, from "the age of colonization in the New World" thru up to Vietnam or so. It's the one history book I recommend. Even if you disagree completely with it.

I would like to point out the timeframe for this. "This was early 90's stuff." That means that the spiritual climate for this-the policies that put this psychopath in a position to give this advice- and the polity that made this sound perfectly acceptable at the time to the power-that-be-- this was all the direct result of lcm's 'line in the sand' in 1989, and the consequence of what he CLAIMED was a desire to serve God and do godly things. Did he? Well, take a look at this example (among others), and I think most people actually exercising their thinking abilities will say "obviously, lcm was 'all talk' in this, and knew what to say in 1989, but never had any intention of carrying it out, instead going into the tyrant mode that made all this 'work' to him, and made the people DISPOSABLE." A few might even add "lcm learned from vpw HIMSELF to make even the corps DISPOSABLE, as we ourselves saw."

I use the back button for the same reason. Another tip to remember is that your connection may time out, or the site may time you out if you have stayed on the same page and not "pinged" it with any directions (like "refresh page"). So, here's what I do when typing a very big post. I open a second window to the GSC forums, and every once in a while, I refresh that page. So the site knows I'm still there and doesn't log me off. Every 5 minutes is PLENTY- I think 8-10 minutes is enough. (Works on other boards too, BTW.) The official recommendation is to type the post into a word-processor program, then cut-and-paste it into the window. That way you still have the original if cyberspace eats the post and it never makes it to the site. THEN you can erase your document when you see it saved onsite. This is a good idea, but I'm hoping never to need it, especially since I'm often posting where that's not really an option.

Dot Matrix, when facing vpw taking BOTH sides of an issue at different times in front of different people, was told this by a staffer, "Don't you know how he works? HE will be on your sister's side and tell her how awful her husband is, then if her husband walks in he will tell him how awful she is and take his side."

Fair enough- but I think the others all picked now to go to the movies or something. When I see this line, I keep hearing the "Japanese Banana" song with it, because that's the OTHER song I know well from the group. This was "Alvin and the Chipmunks", or "David Saville and the Chipmunks" (depending on how they're labelling it) doing "Christmas Don't Be Late". =========== So, with my muse awake, I submit the next song for The Academy's august consideration.... "I only wish the night was twice as long"

No, they did not. The illusion was that she was pulled apart. She was NOT harmed or reduced in any way during this trick...

I only try another site if Snopes doesn't have the answer.

I can believe that. It's also the correct answer. Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs did this song, and the Rolling Stones covered it later, and Bowling for Soup covered it around 2005 for the "Cursed" soundtrack. Sam the Sham's biggest hit was "Wooly Bully", which should ring a bell. ChasUFarley, your turn.

That might do me permanent damage. As a kid, I think I never recovered from the Star Wars Holiday Special despite suppressing the memory entirely. ======= Inspiration has hit. Ok, next song..... "Even bad wolves can be good"

All stage-magic is based on misdirection. You're paying attention to what has no bearing on the trick, and ignoring what's critically important. Watch it again-and note how he makes an elaborate show of supposedly picking someone at random out of the crowd. He refused the first person after picking them-because they were the "wrong height". But that can't be the reason- she was standing when he saw her, so he knew her height. She was only picked so he could refuse her and "randomly" pick someone else. Do you still need help, or can you figure it out now? I'd rather not really spell everything out for you.

If you knew a bit more about archery, you'd know this couldn't be correct. (I've never arched an arrow, but I'm familiar with it intellectually.) First of all, a bow with a strong pull needs more than one finger to pull. Typically, IIRC, the European draw-which is the draw used in this story- is done with a sort-of claw of the first 2 fingers drawing back the bow. (That's tough on the fingers, so the first 3 might be used, or an archery glove-thing worn.) Second, the Mongolian draw works just as well. That's an actual "plucking" of the bowstring, where the index finger and thumb pinch the string and draw. I gave this thought because Robert Wuhl told this story on a comedy special fairly recently. He ends it with the words "Is it true? Doesn't matter..." and explains why he thinks it doesn't matter. Of course, as soon as he admitted he didn't know, I snickered and let it slide.

*reviews the posts* *reviews the quote again* Ok, saw this once. Gotta be this song William Shatner did.. he's big on these spoken-word songs, and there was some tv show about him, and I think I saw him do this song there, now that I was prompted. (In between stuff on his horses.) So, I can name the artist, but not the title. Is that close enough, or will wasway have to fill us in?

I wanted to bring this thread back for the new people. BTW, it was "WOW pin or holy spirit dove on the LEFT lapel", and "nametag on the RIGHT lapel."

The OFFICIAL word on the subject, at least thru the 80s, was that speaking in tongues was evidence of salvation, not REQUIRED for salvation. In more than one PRACTICAL sense, more than one leader treated anyone who never did speak in tongues as unsaved, since they didn't have "proof" of the person's salvation, so they were guilty until proven innocent. A separate issue, of course, is that someone could have faked the thing. After all, vpw HIMSELF supposedly faked it at that conference before he met Stiles-according to vpw's own words on the subject. ====== Now, then, just because vpw taught it one way (in public) in no way means that EVERYONE taught it the same way in public. The sad fact that some people here have decided that deficiencies in some of the local teachers equals lies or errors on the part of the students is in itself error, but it's a COMMON error here, and a SYMPTOMATIC one. It's part of a larger error that says "I saw it this way- so EVERYONE saw it the same way, or they were WRONG." It's been often pointed out that experiences changed from year to year, location to location, and even town to town. Therefore, ONE person's experience never speaks to EVERYONE's experience here. Presuming to know the content of teachings one was never present for undermines one's own credibility. However, around here, that's old news.

Go to google. Type in the full email address, in quotes. Hit "Google Search". Example: Let's say you were looking for "goto", whose email address is "goto@hell.com". You'd type in "goto@hell.com" and see what came up. If there's many hits, some might be samples off of web-crawlers and so on. However, those where it's in a profile as an address, or a signature has it, or it's in a sentence like "you can reach me at..." and so on. IF he ever typed it anywhere, that may show it. No guarantee he did, or that he did in a place where a Google cache would pick it up.

Uh, are you sure this is a quote from the movie? We're SUPPOSED to be guessing from quotes off the movie. The person's supposed to post primarily those, and possibly supplement them with hints if multiple quotes aren't ringing any bells. Here's the rules, from the first post...

I'd be interested in seeing it. I'm taking it as a given that you'll be posting a rationale for each, and not saying "my opinion is correct and you'll agree or you're an idjit". I've seen that one before (I forget who did it) and I just skip those threads.

AFAIK, he got a Doctorate in Education. (AFAIK, your ABS money at work.)

If it's a question of the program that PLAYS the video, there's lots. I believe Windows Media Player and Real Player (and their copies like "Alternative") run movies. Furthermore, some movies (I think the first Harry Potter's one) include a program that will show the movie as well. I think it's called Interactive something. If that's not the problem, then try this. Go to each piece of hardware, one at a time, that might have the problem. Get its name and product# off the machine. Then go to the website of the manufacturer and download the latest drivers for that product. Even if that's not the problem gadget, that usually will improve performance a little. (Unless the pc memory is full.) Let me know if all of that doesn't fix it.

Don't forget that plain getting revelation eventually became an old wineskin. In pfal, vpw makes a special note that God will tell YOU FIRST on anything pertaining to you, and MAY tell someone else LATER to tell you if you're not listening. He gave examples of people supposedly relaying messages about running off to minister to people who he claimed God told to go THEMSELVES rather than tell HIM to go. He also gave the Paul-going-to-Jerusalem example (God told Paul, then people he ran into in passing, then sent in Agabus the prophet) on the same subject. lcm said that all decisions had to come down from leadership- that THEY would get revelation concerning everyone's personal lives, and not THEMSELVES. Of course, when you got in trouble for following their instructions, it was supposedly because NOW you were supposed to be listening for revelation and missed it-the leadership was NEVER to blame, no matter how stupid their instruction.

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And the biggest commercial success. The next album, "Without a Net", was a LOT less successful. Correct-although the correct title of the song is "Throwing Stones". (Long song, too-I was prepared to post a LOT of quotes.) So, your turn, Chas.