WordWolf

I was hoping for another quote, but this is Styx' song "Mr Roboto."

But you helped me escape when I needed you! Thank you. (You might need to post another quote.)

It's possible to conflate the two- mainly because vpw himself worked hard to conflate the two, and convinced a lot of us, ONCE, that it was so. vpw plagiarized his way through BG Leonard's class, JE Stiles' book, and everything Bullinger ever printed, and made a comfortable living off of it, claiming he was learning all this from God Almighty. When some of these people came up, vpw claimed he "got the error out" of their works- which was a bogus claim. That gave him materials from people who understood God Almighty more than he did- although if they made a mistake, he just copied it over because he lacked the depth of understanding to "get the error out" for real. But he could sure claim he did- and people bought it. The real results came when vpw hijacked the hippies. He read about the legit Christians at the House of Acts- prayer, healing, REAL movements of God- and all by naive young folk whom he could hoodwink. So, he did. He went there, and performed his full act. Trying to serve God, and sure nobody would lie or deceive them, they became convinced- based on all the plagiarized stuff they thought he'd learned on his own- that this man was the great power of God. In this manner, he bewitched them. He managed to convince some of them to join twi. This was how he managed to strangle a new movement of God Almighty among the people, a move that the Devil no doubt applauded. He took people who were already serving God, seeing miracles, etc, and turned them into twi's sales force, quenching the spirit, and making them into income sources. Those people recruited people to twi, and those people they recruited did the same. Any real movement of God's people in twi was entirely due to those people. So, there are people who had godly experiences in twi- due to those people- and were told it was due to vpw, which was all a smokescreen. They still tried to serve God, but inadvertently advertised a movement of a man. Once those people started arriving, vpw was able to put into practice some things he'd always wanted to but never had the chance- namely, rape and molestation. He was able to put together really elaborate social structures to find him victims, groom the victims, isolate the victims, and cover up anything, and silence the victims if they seemed ready to come forward. Confusing twi for a " reformation of the church" is possible if one has no idea what happened, why, or who did what. The House of Acts was real, vpw was a fraud. In twi, both interacted. It's that simple.

You mean, like when Jesus overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and chased away the folk that made the temple big business? Jesus walked with God (and, technically, with Jesus) and he was vocal about some of the crimes done on his watch.

If you're so motivated, please send $20 via the donate button. If you're not, no one is going to bust any part of you over it. But, yes, it costs money, and donations are cheerfully accepted and rarely solicited. BTW, I've been to groups where I was never pushed for donations. Of all things, I was involved for a time with a Catholic church group that never hit me up for donations....although we once did a project to feed homeless, and we did it out-of-pocket. Nobody asked me to, but I opened my pocket.... and in that instance, it actually made a big difference.

They've all been televised.

I don't think that's going to fly with twi in any era, now any more than before. twi was always organized to make a profit, to say nothing of the investments made with the money they squirreled away when they were shaking us down long ago. But, you and them will have to sort that out, it certainly doesn't affect me. (I think it's a good idea, but I don't think they're going to agree, and you'll get an earful, sooner or later, probably with a nice, diplomatic phrasing nowadays.) As for Luke 6, I think Jesus was making a point by way of hyperbole. Luke 6:31 (NASB) "Treat people the same way you want them to treat you." I think that was the main thrust, and a challenge to aim higher. Luke 6:36 (NASB) "Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful." Of course, you're free to disagree. But I think that verse was making a point, just not a direct, literal one. I don't think Jesus was literally ordering us to be victims of every robber who comes along. (And if he was, I'll never be spiritual enough to do it, nor to teach my kid to do it.)

Thank you very much.

"If we're going to just disavow the word isn't there some nice satanist forum out there!?" I've encountered lots of groups over the years, and twi was only one of them that said "You can agree with us or you can disagree with GOD ALMIGHTY because we're 100% in accordance with him, and leaving us means leaving GOD ALMIGHTY." I wasn't sure if that's what you meant, but it certainly could be taken that way, and it sounded like that to me. Of course, you might have meant something completely completely different, in which case, a little clarification would be appreciated (by me if by no one else.)

II Corinthians 9:7 (KJV) "Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver." (NASB) "Each one must do just as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver." Ah, a REQUIRED 10% or required 15% is "of necessity", "under compulsion." In twi, it's required. I'm sure someone can engage in sophistry about the word "required," but the reality is that it is required. Try to be in twi without records showing that you give, and see how long that lasts. There will be "friendly discussions" about how you should be, and so on. You'll get leaned on. I'm not sure they'll kick you out like in the old days, but it's still required- the only difference would be in the sanctions should you try to disobey the requirement. There will be SOME sanctions either way.

Welcome. Lulu. You may find that there's different types of people here. Some are no longer Christian- partly because twi really made a bad case for Christianity. Some of us are still Christian, and even still believe the Bible's really important (Hi, that includes me!). Some people are Christians with varying beliefs- either far from what twi taught, or pretty close to what twi taught, all depending on our journeys. None of those positions is required to post here. You're welcome either way, and posting friendly is appreciated. Goodness, we've had so many discussions about how foolish, unbiblical and nonsensical the no-debt policy was. Even vpw's uncle Harry claimed you should never go into debt EXCEPT FOR A HOUSE OR A CAR.

I found each of those useful for different things. WhatsApp I use on my phone and find it best for that. Zoom I use for groups with a presenter. Skype was flexible for general and casual chatting, and sometimes for a small group. I even find Discord has its uses. And so on.

That's the one. I still remember the newspaper articles. Larry Hagman suggested JR's mom shot him, and so on. The NYPD detectives got simple. "Forget the motives. Forget the clues. Whoever did it is going to have to leave the show. The only actor scheduled to leave the show...."

Yes, that's it.

In case it's news to you, Skype is shutting down as a service. If you're interested in keeping it, you can open it now while it's still in operation (another few days at most, so move ASAP!) and follow the prompts. It will lead you through downloading Microsoft Teams, and transfer your Skype data directly to Microsoft Teams, where you will still be able to text, audio chat, video chat, and share screens. I figured some of you would like to know that. That is all.

Just FYI.... It sounded like you might be agreeing with Arthur Koestler's "the Thirteenth Tribe." If that's so, you might be interested in hearing that it was disproven beyond any reasonable doubt. We all know that book was pushed by vpw a lot. Then again, if anything was anti-semitic, vpw pushed it whether or not it made sense. "Myth of the Six Million" was also disproven. In case you're unclear, genetic tests prove that the modern Jews are descended from the historical Jews because they share genetic markers that the rest of us do not. Also, there were more than 6 million people killed by the Nazis, but at least 6 million of the murdered were Jews. Some time ago, we went over those rather finely.

Ok, next show. This show has had a successful run, and it has a short-lived attempt at a revival some time later. At its height, it seemed like everybody in the US was talking about it, even those who weren't watching it. A summer cliffhanger where one character attempted to murder another got the entire US (I don't know how other countries responded). In fact, the US Daily News did a feature on it one week that summer, with different people giving their ideas on who was the attempted murderer. Everybody had their own guesses. The day with the correct answer? The day they interviewed detectives of the NYPD and asked their opinion.

"The preceding was recorded earlier because we were ashamed to do it now." "This show has been prerecorded to give the cast a chance to get away." "Do you know there's a small hotel in downtown Burbank?" "No, but if you hum a few bars, I can fake it."

Outrageous Fortune George Carlin Dogma

Meaning it's George's turn.

I think we're all zero for 5 here. I know I am.

I'd probably like it, but I'd never heard of it or its album. It may have charted, but I never heard it.

Correct!

He-Man! And the Masters of the Universe! Concerning the opening, I thought it was grossly unfair for Prince Adam to explain the origin, and then, immediately after that, to punch me! I just sat there listening to his story, and he punches me! WTH?

Based on the specific level of confusion, I can say the following. 1) I have not heard this album. 2) I have not heard this song. 3) I have heard this style somewhere, so I probably am at least a little familiar with the artist in question. That's as far as I can get, and I might be very wrong- could be the Killers or the Verve Pipe or something.