WordWolf

pg-193, Amil Schaffner teaches him some stuff. Supposedly, A.S. spoke in tongues once as a child, and was told it wasn't of God. pg-194. We're almost to the part where he drops a bunch of names about the holy spirit field....

On page 187, vpw shows how to give a compliment and take it away at the same time, when he's asked whatever happened to Rosalind R. Here comes another list of names, from page 188. vpw has said he and 39 others passed the hat around and paid for Christian speakers to come visit them. Anyone know anything definite about the "Spiritual 40 Club"? pg-189. page 190, vpw repeats one of his statements, and hopes you'll connect the dots when he does. page 192, vpw exceeds "everyone"'s expectations again, thru his friendship with an anonymous woman who supposedly taught him about Church history.

Ok, fine. Just give me the ARTIST. I'll include the chorus now. "But there are several other very important differences between human beings and animals that you should know about. I'd appreciate your input." "Me and you do the kind of stuff that only Prince would sing about. So put your hands down my pants, and I'll bet you feel nuts. Yes I'm Siskel, yes I'm Ebert and you're getting two thumbs up. You've had enough of two-hand touch, you want it rough, you're out of bounds, I want you smothered, want you covered like my Waffle House hash browns." "You and me, baby ain't nothing but mammals so let's do it like they do on the Discovery Channel." The band is a one-hit wonder-this is the one hit.

Hm. I don't see it now, but I'd traced it to earlier in the century, and a possible name, but I don't see it now. That the poem existed before the convict was born, I think, is beyond question. I have found it nicely ironic that someone who plagiarized a poem sits in prison-the ethics are paired up with the results, that's consistent. Plagiarists belong in jail. :)--> Lots of people who've never heard of twi have heard of this poem, but I'm not sure when that last line was ADDED. I know it was ADDED because I've SEEN it without that line, and I've seen it with a different last line ALSO added. Given that vpw's track record, I don't even think it's viable to consider him the author. Further, he always kept "his" work close to his vest. The poem has had various iterations thru the decades. He would NEVER have let it get away from him. More likely he caught one version and either added the last line, or caught it WITH that last line. If we knew where the convict got it, this would help us track it.

With the exception of the last line, this is an old poem. I did a search on it once before, let's see what I find now....

*sighs* Fine. Please do NOT consider this an endorsement of hatespeech, insults or anything else related to the song. This is the lyrics. (chorus) "Mommas, don't let your babies grow up to be homos. Don't let 'em wear earrings or carry a purse, Let 'em chase wimmin, drink whiskey and curse. Mommas, don't let your babies grow up to be homos. 'cuz they're never at home they're always in men's rooms, Lookin' for someone to love. Homos love musclebound dock-workers when they can get 'em. Retired librarians just have to do when they can't. Little warm skunks, or children, or monks, it don't make a whole lot of difference. They'll give you a wink, then they'll buy you a drink, Then they'll brush all the lint off your pants. chorus Homos are easy to find, but they're sure hard to lose. They'll pick you up slumming, and offer you candy or booze. Now roosters lay chickens, and chickens lay eggs-but homos break all of the rules. On Saturday night they come out of the closet-on Monday they teach in our schools." chorus ========= That thing's stuck in my brain for life. Along with some inoffensive songs, but still. I try not to connect the artist with it by name, since I doubt he wants any current connection with it. I imagine it's part of HIS shameful past with twi, and he'd prefer to get past HIS just as most of us have tried to get past OURS. But lcm just LOVED the song, didn't he?

Do you REALLY want the lyrics?

Actually, the song is considered funny, and the video even funnier.

pg-176, vpw continues his tale: Hm. They told him he could do anything EXCEPT ONE, and that was his immediate UNYIELDING focus, and they had the nerve to be offended that he went 180 degrees from his instructions. (ANY church where tithing is taught on for an ENTIRE MONTH looks like it's ONLY in it for the money, and NOBODY will like it.) "They said not to teach on money, so I didn't-I taught on tithing." I'll bet he felt so clever, so pleased with himself for adhering-PARTLY- to the letter while perverting the spirit of his instructions. For those wondering if they were right to give him instructions, they were the ELDERS-the experienced local leaders, and he was the guy who JUST arrived and was young and lacking in experience. Unless he had a compelling reason beyond tweaking their noses, he should have considered their counsel wise and followed it. Convenient coincidence that what served God just happened to be the easy path for him. pg-177, he meets Rosalind Rinker in Indiana. (page-178, since "Nothing cataclysmic...") Watch this next quote from pg-179. pg-180. pg-181. pg-185-186. vpw is continuing his tour.

pg-173, more of vpw's life... Yet another thing vpw supposedly excelled at, which we NEVER saw any evidence of. We know he was obsessed with music-his ministries all seemed to circle around it-until he got ahold of Leonard's work. pg-174. Harry thinks you were preaching to the trees when you went off for hours and neglected your chores. Since you had no plans to go into the ministry at the time, it's obvious you weren't preaching... Being a medical doctor or a lawyer is a LOT of work, and has MUCH professional oversight. Just a thought. For someone who can't remember the past, he sure could recall a lot of names, almost as if he wants to name-drop. Further, as someone found out, Moody has no record of vpw completing ANY of its classes, which is the indicator someone completed a class. Sounds like his claim of taking "all" their classes is just hot air. We'll see more of his life soon. He's not very organized.

Ok, everyone playing the vpw drinking game, take one drink whenever he says something is the best in the world. Where did we leave off? Oh, yeah, page 154. vpw was talking about people. pg-155. Um, that didn't answer his question.... Anyone who can untangle this sentence of vpw from pg-170, please do so.. So he remembers it forever until he's done with it, then he forgets it. page 171-172, vpw shares an early childhood memory.

I agree, furthermore, having finished this book, I have the distinct impression that vpw made so many inflated claims about himself that, eventually, he bought into his own press releases, and considered it inconceivable that his name wouldn't continue to cause people to cower in a prostrate manner in perpetuity. If that was completely true, there would be no worries about Mrs W. As it was, it's still partially true-there are still vpw worshippers around the world.

Yes. The second quote is in all versions of the song. The first quote doesn't necessarily get airplay, but will remind you of the parts you HAVE heard. To be specific, I think I have this version at home.

If intellectual honesty, moral character, and truth mattered to you, this would be more than enough of an answer. http://www.greasespotcafe.com/editorial/pl...m-wierwille.htm

Seems, once again, we have someone who's arrived at the GSC with the express purpose of recruiting members for his organization. In this case, he's refrained from actually TELLING us that's what he's doing, which is LESS honest than the previous guys who just walked in and posted an ad. Apparently, that's why it's so important that we all wear special nametags saying "I'm a Christian" or "I'm not a Christian"- so he knows who to approach, and who to make fun of. How do you, as posters, feel about people secretly trying to use the GSC as a recruiting center?

No, you're here to recruit for your organization. So much for "honesty". Plus, this is not the DOCTRINAL forum, where we discuss DOCTRINE. They can approach them FAIRLY and without ATTACK. They have done so. You have not demonstrated a similar ability-not even about other Christians in other Christian organization. Therefore, you are more "biased" than them. Chihuahua, Mexico? Your posts, to date, have been more demeaning, on a whole, than almost anyone else's here. The sheer HYPOCRISY of you calling OTHERS demeaning would be overwhelming, if you still had a conscience.

"What Would You Say" is by the Dave Matthews Band, but it's the wrong decade. Therefore, you want "Oh Babe What Would You Say" written by E.S. Smith, originally performed by Hurricane Smith. The year is 1972.

It's probably the thread titled "Banjo and Mandolin." Click "Advanced search" then type in the words "banjo mandolin guitar bluegrass". You'll get 3 hits. It's not "the Worst Way Song", so it's probably either "Banjo and Mandolin" or "Do you play any musical instruments?" "Banjo and Mandolin" looked like it had lots of links.

Ann Rule book, eh? *googles the name Ann Rule and clicks on her official website* "The I-5 Killer". http://www.annrules.com/prod14.htm ISBN 0-451-16559-4 (Paperback) Signet. "The true case of a handsome, athletic hero who turned out to be someone else entirely. Locale: Oregon, Washington." Amazon.com said "As a young man, Randall Woodfield had it all...." "...As the list of the dead grew, the police mobilized to stop a twisted killer who had 44 known deaths to his name."

Oh, and the fun's just starting. A) It's about 300 pages, so I'm about 1/2 way thru. Most of the remaining stuff is from vpw's mouth. B) We haven't had fun comparing vpw's accounts of things with Harry's, and we haven't compared them with the other book, AND other things he's said publicly, AND what we know to be true.

This was 5 posts ago.

Brother Speed, we forgive you. It was an honest misunderstanding, from an honest heart. I think each of us has done AT LEAST as bad here at SOME point. I pretty much bit off someone's head in September of 2001. They accepted my honest apology. It was 2 days after 9/11, and I live in NYC. I was under unusual circumstances. Since then, I'm sure I've put my foot in my mouth a number of times-I've certainly had some heated misunderstandings. We're all human here. We all try, we all need forgiveness. Just try not to need it on every post. :D-->

pg-138, Earl gives us some of his story: Here, I take note of 2 things. 1) A coach 'riding' an athlete, and destroying his confidence isn't just bad coaching and distraction, it's a 'confirmation of the law of believing.' 2) Again with the "Dr.". All the answers "he" had from the Word-which, of course, are all the answers BG Leonard and the others had from The Word. Moving on... Charlene shares about her initial teachings and doctrinal exposure to twi-at a Way Home. pg-144. Two more things here. 1) FIRST off, they were taught about comfortable living-by misuse of John 10:10, which does not refer to financial wealth. If it DID, Jesus wouldn't have said it was hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 2) SECOND off, they jumped STRAIGHT into "4 crucified" and the Trinity. For STARTING people. Nothing you'd think was needed to START with like "God loves you" "God heals you", and so on-we jump straight into the "look how smart we are" stuff. page-150, The Teacher prepares to speak. Or, you know, he built anticipation by making the audience wait. Standard speaker's tool number one. Even William Shatner's talked about it. vpw tells a story about 2 men who supposedly lived in Van Wert, who did some remarkable things yet nobody seemed to have ever heard of them, even after the fact. vpw even forgot their names. Anyway, he says these guys just sat in an office together in silence for an hour and MADE something happen by just thinking about it. Here's some highlights. pg-150. pg-151 Ok, so these guys nobody ever heard of just sat in a room concentrating on a business, and out of the blue, a guy calls them up to sell his. They didn't go around and say "If someone's interested in selling, please give them this phone# or anything"- he just dialed the numbers by extra-special perception or something. They were "the two meanest guys you could ever want to meet"-but they spent a FORTUNE setting up a foundation for broken homes and a YMCA-or ALL YMCAs-the story isn't clear and a YWCA-or ALL YWCAs-the story isn't clear AND a hospital. Pretty selfless for really mean guys. Also, they did ALL these things, and nobody could STAND them because they were incredibly jealous of these 2 guys who shared their money with everyone. Apparently, the part that they GOT the money before spending it really chafed. Those Van Wert CHURCH people must be the most SHALLOW people in the country. Also, were they disliked because they were mean, or because they were rich? The reason hops back and forth. pg-152, the moral of this fable is given. Then he gives some general plans for classes and growth and stuff, then, pg-153.

And there was much rejoicing. "Yay!" *pennants wave*