Shellon

Thank you!

The EEG results showed nothing going on in her brain cept what's supposed to be going on in there. Blood work from Feb. looks normal to doc.

So.......we journey on and trust God that whatever has been going on is no longer going on and I try not to stare at her more than usual.

Thank you to those of you who've hung in there with my family on this. You're true thanks will have to come from God, I could never tell you enough.

My dad is doing well also and everything is done; he and his wife leave for a year long adventure around the country in a month.

LOL good chatting with ya too, the bathroom light is always on unless its daytime in which case ya gots to find it all on yer own

I finally found the coffee pot after day two, sure was nice to enjoy a cup of java without having to walk 2 blocks to the local Tom Thumb...

I reckon CNN and the others will show up eventually, prolly once the program gets going, just remember I've brought in 9 partners for this venture, ranging from the county government to the local hospital to schools etc, tho to be fair it was "US" that brought them together.

Anyways take care and enjoy the spring weather.

Thanks for leaving the bathroom light on ! LOL

And yup, regardless of the partners and the ranges, "we" deserve the lions share of the credit for all the late night laughing, bi+ching, pondering and "oh crap" moments to get this thing to here and now.

I'm very proud of you, you know that! And frankly, the ride has been an interesting one, hasn't it? Moment of fame or no, I don't care, I just love that it's actually happening!

Leave the porch light on too eh?

Where my house is ya kinda can't see me back here unless you already know I'm here, so that helps. However, we get 'em from time to time. The last time it was Jehovah's Witness and they wanted to ask me what I thought about death and dying and how much of a sinner I was if I didn't understand whether or not I was going to heaven or hell or get stuck here somehow with a 24/7 job cleaning skid marks at the Soap n Suds.

I was in a mood, I confess.

So I invited them in and offered them a cigar (really) and a shot of my friend Jose' and said "do tell me about your death and dying"

I've not seen them since, odd isn't it?

Maybe they didn't like my hospitality or something.

I'm not averse to standing on my porch chatting about the Bible or someone's God or their preferences. What I am averse to is the forceful condemnation of same and their reality that my life is somehow lacking if I don't let them convince me of how crappy my life was/is/will be.

Say hello to me normal and be a gracious guest at my table and I'll listen to almost anything ya got to say.

Thanks, Billy. Indeed, the unknown is the toughest part, really. I can fight any monster if I but know what it is.

And you know us mama's, we do our best to care for ourselves, but if our babies need something, that's first, period the end amen.

I do mental health days often and those rejuvinate and get me to decompression place; helpful! Had one planned for today/tonight but alas it was not to be; that's how it goes sometimes.

Your support and prayers and good is always so appreciated, my friend.

When I took dance they taught a primary thing. If you keep getting your toes stepped on, fnd another way to protect your feet or get a new partner. If you are the one who keeps stepping on your partners toes, get off the dance floor.

It made sense a minute ago

TWI is like a sick family with a pedophile uncle. they punish the kids for talking about it and pretend the uncle is normal and tell everyone what a great family they have

Potato in "you're daughter is possessed"

Rockin!

Oh hell, write that down, that one goes into Gems, potatoe

Yep--hopefully a mod will split it out-- I didnt intentionally want to screw up this thread.

Apologies to Shellon

Shiftthis--can you put the rest of your 'avoiding' me on hold until this moves somewhere else. Thank You

Edit to add--Twinky started another thread--there are some good questions waiting for you over there

Nah, mstar, you don't owe me an apology. I put this in About The Way on purpose and the Way is what is being discussed.

Hell, I just wandered into Doctinal yesterday, where I nearly never go (shiver) and took those participating into a dream I had. That's part of the fun of this place, if ya ask me and ya didn't.

I do believe my email writer is still hanging out with The Way International, yes. I don't have solid info on that and I'm not clear that I care. The tone of the letter could be as simple as some chick just being a bi+ch to me; either way she blew her nut where she had no business.

Ham. As a writer with a story to tell and then as a woman and mom with a life to live it's tough some days and putting my story out here only took me 11 years.

I'm learning, more so in last month or so, about picking my battles VERY carefully. That's not to say I will shut up, 'cuz now I can't, but it is to say that I know I have critics and what Kelly and I call "starers" and it's part of the game they play; we've learned how to roll with most of their punches.

I wanted us here to take a current look at their silliness.

from the girl who steers clear of Doctrinal convo's..........

When we were in TWI I had a dream that repeated itself about 8 times that I recall. I was back in my home town for some reason on a side street across from the house I grew up in, running.

There were people every flippin' where, some running, some walking, all in different states of emotional highs and lows. Children were seperated from parents, odd animals were milling about.

Jumanji !

Yet it didn't feel like chaos, necessarily, just very unsettling and kinda trippy. I slowed to a walk and someone spoke to me; a man in all yellow from head to toe, top hat to yellow shoes. Talk about trippy, I thought I was in a Matthew Lesko commercial.

But he told me in a whisper this was the time, this was it, we were on our way to Heaven right now.

Heaven? What?? Huh? Wait! ! ! Where was my baby (I only had one daughter at the time) and where was my husband and I recall looking for my Chocolate Lab amonst the 4 legged wanderers. If this was the Gathering Together, I wanted to do something else. Then I remembered my broher Paul, who's gay.

I then realized that some were running in one direction and others in, well, another. Heaven bound and Hell bound? Not the way I understood it, but dreams are weird. I didn't know where to look for Paul and it became, suddenly, even more important than looking for my husband and daughter. I found him sitting on a little white stool like grandpa used in the cow barn to milk. Just sitting there, smoking a cigarette, grinning at me. Sit down sis, just like he always said upon our greetings.

I told him we had to go, this was IT! and I tried to get him to rise and come with me, who knew how long before the Closed Sign would be put on on both places. He wouldn't comply and someone hollared "leave him, he can't go anyway".

I kept pulling on him, he kept pulling back, refusing to come with his amazing sister and someone kept hollaring we had to go. I turned and walked from him and went somewhere, hopefully to Heaven, but hey, who knows, the way I cuss

The way TWI taught stuff, yeah. Rewards and punishments, yeah.

The dream never returned again after I asked him for his forgiveness for treating him less than wonderful as my brother while I was in TWI and he accepted my apology and forgave me.

I wonder where my other brothers were.

Commercial over and thank you

Shellon - that's good to know that's it's not family doing this. I just assumed. But what I said goes for her (or anyone who thinks like her), too. She's got a pretty small god.

Added in edit -

Shellon's family - I am deeply sorry that I assumed it was one of you

No harm done whatsoever, truly. It's easy to assume it's them or them or maybe them, I get that. And I'll not offer that family and I haven NOT said and/or done things in pain and confusion and desire to say our piece.

The seperation of this family is a shame is what it is.

However and had I know for sure the whom part yesterday when I started this thread, I would have cleared that up right away. I had a pretty good idea and I, also, assumed that cuz this chick follows me around and wants to save my life and the lives of my children from all things that aren't hers, but couldn't be sure until about 8 this morning when I knew for sure it was here.

I've responded to her and taken what I hope are measures again that she can't reach me. Sent her on a wild duck chase, stuff like that as far as my email, etc., goes.

What a pain in the asx huh? I have so many more valuable things to do with my time and energy and life. But, what we all have said here is spot on true!

She is still a part of twi and in her misery......well, I'll keep that to myself.

Support is appreciated for my girl !

Not since leaving. Actually, no one bothered after I told them that I couldn't worship a god like the one "protecting" TWI.

The only people who have been going after Shellon with any kind of regularity are her husband's family members who are still in TWI. Maybe now they've gone anonymous. Shellon provides them the perfect scapegoat. It doesn't matter if she is in TWI or not. It can't be them. After all, they are "standing," so whether she's in or not, it has to be her.

I guess my question to Shellon's family is

I have to add here, Tzaia, that my husband's family is not who is 'going after me'. Yes, we are mostly estranged but this is not the result of their angst or anger or estrangement of me.

They love Kelly and don't wish her ill or the diseases the docs are talking to me about today. I blame them for nothing, today, except getting caught up in an organization that did some damage in their lives and family. But this foolishness; this letter is not from any of them, this I do know as of today.

The rest of your post I absolutely agree with but not towards Bob's family; not this letter. The writer of this letter resides in Mississippi, the fun to say spell state nor is she contacting me via greasespot cafe. She's made attempts to get my phone number, of which I'm protective to the point of OCD and she's contacted me via a parenting site I frequent, stuff like that. She's at least smart enough to not come in here and blabber all over and expect to get away with it.

Again, she and I will dance, soon. I am not sure about her leadership; it's always been between she and myself, but we'll see. She's tried to save me and my babies many many! times, it seems to be one of her missions in this life.

Today is more energy given to taking care of my child and getting her what she needs.

Your support is ever appreciated.

Just spoke to Kelly's doc and now that he has the correct lab results, he can see the alarming numbers on her White Blood Count and kidney function right after these episodes. The EEG report from yesterday hasn't been given him yet, but this white blood count information is crucial !

While it doesn't provide clear answers exactly it does point us in what might be a direction instead of sitting in the middle of many and hoping.

Means more tests, yes and sigh.............but maybe we can figure it out soon!

Interesting it that seems more people are incensed about that email than Shellon herself is. As far as TWI is concerned, she sees through their manipulative and mean-spirited approach and has of necessity grown a thick hide to withstand it.

Perhaps the rest of us haven't had to put up with quite that level of abuse in that particular area and that's why we're so angry about the email.

It's double-edged abuse. A form of self-abuse. The fact is that the writer probably sincerely meant what she said. Sincere, but diametrically opposed to Godliness.

Please don't mistake my quiet about the words themselves as acceptance of them. I suppose I have thickened my skin to allow for less sting at this kind of behavior from others, but let me add that this isn't anything new. I got in TWI in 1982 and hung out there until 1998, so this doesn't shock me at all, doesn't surprise me, doesn't make me do much more than feel shame for their attitude; it's embarassing isn't it?

That's not to say it doesn't hack me off, but from a mothers lens only, really. I am a fantastic mother and I don't take to being accused of anything less, ever. Whether it were TWI or a total stranger or someone that lived in my life 24/7, going after my parenting skills and ability and love of my child is way past fighting words.

The old stand by works: Mess with me all ya want, but don't you dare involve my babies.

When I left TWI I did so with full and complete knowledge that there was the clicking of teeth that went something like "what is she doing to those girls?" and I've not been left wanting as to them keeping it up for the last 12 years. My husband had just died and TWI was in the process of setting me up with a new head of my home in the form of three men who would share the responsibilities as to what I might need.

Interpret that anyway you choose; I'll not elaborate except to say that it was clear to me what I was to do and relenquish the traditional male role as to my daughter's spiritual needs was priority. "Those children need male influence, Shellon". Okfine, so I grew a pair.

Since that time, they have been often the first place I get criticism and accusations as to lack. Striking, actually, since they are the first place I put my care, concern and attention.

I knew from my first PFAL in 1982 that I was to "believe" for my children's health and turn their needs over to God and whatever current trend TWI was shoving in my face as to child care ie wooden spoon, etc., and follow their trends. It didn't fit me then and nothing changed as the time crept by.

I understand, also, that women such as myself are a problem when we don't bow to their level of stupid or lower our standards to their level of what's right. I'm not a stranger to that, so again it doesn't get me when they, again, puke their threats in my direction.

Dmiller speaks of family and that was unique in our case as well and I'm used to being denied access to some of my daughters' family as to their love and care and concern, even as their grand daughter/niece is ill. It's sad is what it is.

I tend to learn more in this life of what NOT to do and how NOT to treat people. I file this kind of thing in my don't do that to someone place and stick with Kailin's iggynore them, for the most part.

I don't know that I'll publish the author's name of this silly email in a place of attention for TWI, but I do know that it likely won't be the last one I'll receive on that context; I am just used to it in emails, phone calls, IM's and messages via third parties.

I quote my grandmother often and it's a familiar one to many. Be a duck, calm and quiet on the surface and paddle like hell underneath. So often in a crisis such as Kelly's being sick, I recall her teaching me basic things about behaving when the going gets a little rough or even if it get really rough and first and foremost she would tell me to let the least important things simmer when I can so that the bigger things don't boil over and make a worse mess. Sometimes I get it right.

The most important thing for this moment is that my daughters doctors now have the correct lab reports and test results and it's hoped that there can now be a definitive correct diagnosis. That is what's important to me today, give me the name of THAT enemy and let me at it.

TWI is a blip on my radar that is to be cautiously eyed and I don't turn my back on them, but my child's care is where I place my energy and time for now.

Until we about her returned good health and life gets back to something besides medical tests and specialist and no answers. Then, sure, bring it on as to dealing with the poopysillyheads.

can you tell I've spoken to my 5 year old grandbaby this morning? I like the way she thinks.

My husband's remains are buried in The Way Woods, my children's paternal family is still involved; some of them. It's not a matter of just storming in and kicking azs and hoping I get a name or three right.

Shell, I am so sorry that the person sending you that "hate speech" letter only opened up old wounds. when I first read it, I just wanted to beat him, almost killing him. But then I realized that 2 wrongs do not make it right. If he, Martindale, Geer had said that to me in person, they would have died by my hands. But anger does not heal people ...... Just immature brats and bullies.

Hi Thomas, yeah, beating her up, almost killing her wouldn't get me more than three hots and a cot for a couple of years. I haven't ever felt that way about anything TWI said to me during or since my tenure with them. Well, ok one time I wanted to do a wee bit o damage to a horndog leader that told me my 16 y/o daughter was "almost ready for him", but I digress.

And I suppose if someone were literally hand on attacking one of my children, I'd kill 'em if I had to, sure.

This, however, is just snotty attitude of arrogance and 'we're better than you and you suck and look what you did cuz we said and come here and we'll fix your huge mistake and your baby girl will be healed'.

BAH!

I knew it for what it is, as well as the many others I've been given since Sept 28, 1998; it's part of the package that is leaving TWI and ruffling their feathers.

I do agree with your "just immature brats and bullies" completely; indeed! And thank God that I understand that and won't stoop to her level of stupid. My current goal is to see healing and health and wholeness for my child. They can do nothing to me to stop that.

God first

thanks Shellon

your daughter will be ok

why am I saying that no matter what battles you fight with your daughter there true love between the two of you

I could tell you stand tall but your afraid

i hope she does not die but study how you can die well

the Way Ministry has nothing VPW die a young age

what important that she knows your love for her

and Jesus Christ promise her she will change

I sorry I do not have right words

i love you and your daughter

with love and a holy kiss Roy

Thanks Roy, but I won't accept a diagnosis of anything but something simple that can either be treated or maintained until she's 104 years old and she dies a very old woman, long after burying me. So far the findings have been dire and we've pushed more and dug further and I've spent my days and nights asking more questions, taking her to more doctors, traveling to specialists, pushing into "no, keep looking".

She absolutely knows my love for her, indeed, it's the sustaining factor in our family. Well, that and rib splitting laughter, but yes we know love here, no doubt.

I understand what you are saying and I appreciate your care for us.

Continuing to pray for those babies

and just think.....according to another site, TWI has become kinder and gentler these days. Just think about what that means about the meaner and tougher old TWI.

Shell, you know our care is for you and K-girl.

I do, Hap, I do and thank you. Under different circumstances it'd be more fun to give you updates on your girl. And the updates will improve if my mama gut is right and it is nearly every time !

God is bigger than me and He's given me peace and comfort; that tells me all I need to know; it's just really that simple.

Hi Grand daughter, nice to see you around here ! Thanks for prayers and I think I have been lucky in that the time I was in TWI I knew their shi+ stunk WAY more than they were willing to admit, so when I left, I knew what was fixin to hit me and how brutal it was going to be and I'd spent months (years maybe) considering if I was up for it and decided I was. Or decided I better be cuz 'here we go......' I was fortunate in that regard and the dynamics of my upbringing and my core bi+ch I was ready for 'em and many of them were family.

Hey Johnny, I heard a rumor that was you ! hahahahahaha. Whatcha been doing, trouble?

I appreciate your kindness to me and my children and thank you~! We're good around here, lots of changes and rearranges but it's going to be ok.

You got that right! I think that's because when someone was "in" and then leaves it's an affront to an organization that is steeped in legalism.

Amen John, that is exactly what happens and the screaming and gnashing of teeth serves no more than to make them look foolish and even more irresponsible.

Of course they wouldn't expect me to publish their silly salivating at greasespot, although if they know me as well as they seemingly want to profess, they should know better than to ASSume anything in that regard.

Remember my 5 year old grand daughter "I iggynore them Nama"

You're welcome John, thank you!

I'm always thrilled to learn that we help each other here; that's what we're supposed to do when it all works right and we take care of each other with a view toward the same goal. I learn more and more each day what that means for me and then for extension to others and I get it right alot of days too.

Someday we'll get to read your writing, yes?

I sure admire your attitude about all this. I'd be ready to shed someone's blood for this.

WG

Oh, I am ready to shed blood, I just understand that it's their normal

I have a girl with something wrong with her, bottom line and that's where my energy needs to be. They want to be axsholes and lay their shi+ on me, their welcome to do so and it's not going to do much to me. Myself and others here, this is not the first of it's kind tossed out by them. Sad lives they live indeed.

Maybe I've become immune to it after 12 years of it, I like to think I can still be surprised in this life, it keeps me on my tippy toes, but it does sting, sure.

I'm a mother and a damn good one. If they or anyone else doesn't know that, it doesn't change the reality of it. They can't take a thing away from me, they can't kill my spirit, they can't hurt my babies anymore, they already contributed to the death of my husband; what the hell else could they take?

I am not inferior to them and I actually sort of expect them to be mean spirited and ugly hearted. It's a sad fact of their existance.

Mess with my kids and we'll have problems and I will win, period, no need for discussion.

And from their tone and stupidity, I won't even have to fight with 'em to see that's already been done.

And again, while it's welcome the support, I really wanted us to to share our own stories and point and giggle at them.

When her doc held his breath and said "I think it's Mitochrondial Complex I and it aint good, it's very very rare and there is no specific treatment" I instantly thought of my friends son, Hollis.

Now, that diagnosis has not been given for sure and with the right lab test results and the right records, finally, it could very well be somethings so simple and she'll be fine in short order.

Hollis is our inspiration and TWI can bite our A$S

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While I - no doubt - would be infuriated by such a POS email, just look at what the sender has to endure. They have to spend their LIFE walking around with their head stuffed full of the lukewarm dogchit that passes for Wayfer Theology. Now THERE'S a pathetic life.

Amen, George, it is a sad and I know I don't miss it.

While they won't pray for me and my babies unless I return to the protection of the household, I'll continue to pray for them and their family for safety out of that mess.

Yeah, I'll turn the other cheek, no problem But I'll keep 'em in my prayers.

Nah and I think it would get to me a little bit, as in infuriate me, if I didn't have my heart and brain full of figuring out what is wrong with my child. Anyone who has ever had a sick child knows how all consuming it can be and the fire and drive it takes to fight to answers.

I don't have the attention and time and desire to give to liars.

I knew, full on, when I took my girls and left TWI, this would be the shi+ that would be thrown at us; anyone who makes that choice is aware of their game to keep ya.

It's what they do and it doesn't work and it's pathetic and sad. But they do it.

My life would be quieter if I didn't tell our personal and often very private story here and I am re-thinking that. Anyone's concern would, naturally, be for the safety and protection of their children as well as the peace and healthiness of their home. I am no exception to that, even while understanding what I was doing by finally wanting to tell my story, or ask for prayer for my daughter and be so specific about it.

Plenty of TWI folks stay encased in PFAL, remembering about that poor little child who was killed and the mama blamed story, the condemnation piled on top of other guilt and fear and self loathing 'cuz they didn't do this or that or the other thing right, no matter how many times they did it right.

The things that get to me where accusations and/or guilt are concerned are where they can, indeed, do harm to my child if they're true. All others, like this crap, nope.