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I actually agree with the statement that you can't go beyond what you're taught, but the belief comes with a very liberal understanding of the word "taught." If you are not taught (either by a person or by the necessity of circumstance/experience) to ask questions, question assumptions, and look at a bigger picture, then you're going to be stuck. The notion that you can't go beyond what you're taught carries within it the means to do exactly that. I would revise the statement to say the following: Unless you learn how to do it, you can't go beyond what others teach you. Science goes beyond what scientists have been taught all the time, because scientists have been taught HOW to do it.

So lusting after another man's wife may not meet the threshold of coveting, in other words. Yeah, that would work. Cain building a city makes no sense on any level, unless we're going to severely dilute the definition of city. Just seems odd to build something that implies a growing society when the number of people on earth is, at most, in the double digits -- and none of the other people want anything to do with you. But okay.

Ah, yes. That seemed to be a perfectly valid explanation. But I had failed to consider that coveting your neighbor's wife is itself a sin (the only sin in the Ten Commandments 1.0 that didn't actually involve DOING anything, just wanting. Thous shalt not WANNA). So Jesus' statement on adultery, by itself, may have made more sense as an example of hyperbole, but you have to ignore an actual (non-obscure, right there in the Big 10) commandment to posit that Jesus was employing a figure of speech here. If you can break one of the 10 Commandments without sinning, it's not much of a commandment, is it? And they all have a LOT of people (and by a lot, I'm being relative... A Lot, as opposed to, say, three. Or one growing family). I guess extrapolating is okay, but the point needs to be made: you do realize that nothing in the Bible even hints at such a motive?

The Patriot *** "Couldn't keep quiet, could we? Just had to invite him to stay, didn't we? 'Serve him tea. Sit in the master's chair. Pet the pooch!'" "I was trying to be hospitable."

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Yes! And I'm sending you a doctor's bill for the emergency room visit from the wounds I suffered biting my tongue. That flipping hurts, man. No, Pharaoh does not rape Moses' wife. He marries the woman Moses loves. So Moses goes off and loves another woman, the blond-haired, blue-eyed desert dweller Zipporah (spelled differently, but whatever).

"What have you found?" "The answer to my prayers!" "You prayed for a basket?" "No. I prayed for a son."

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In Genesis 36:31 we read: "These were the kings who reigned in Edom before any Israelite king reigned." Pay close attention to those last five words. Do they not presume that this is being written at a time AFTER there were kings in Israel? How could Moses have written that? Moses died centuries before Israel had a king. Why would he write "before any Israelite king reigned" when no Israelite king reigned until he was long dead?

Jesus was tempted in all points like as we. We are tempted to commit illicit sex, including adultery (in a man's case, sex with a married woman). Jesus must have been tempted to commit adultery. But Jesus said looking on a woman lustfully in one's heart (which is to say, being tempted to commit adultery) IS adultery. So ... Jesus committed adultery (in his heart)? Or he wasn't tempted with adultery (which invalidates the premise that he was tempted IN ALL POINTS like as we)?

These are just questions/thoughts that don't necessarily lend themselves to threads of their own. Please feel free to chime in. Why don't we know the name of Noah's wife? She's got as much claim to being the mother of all living as Eve. In Genesis 4:17, Cain gets to work building a city. Umm. A CITY. Umm. WHY?!?!?! Why does a family of three need a city? Noah was 600 years old when the Flood came. How old were his sons? His daughters-in-law had to be young enough to still bear children, right? So... were these... really, really, really, REALLY old men knocking boots with teenagers and chicks in their 20s and 30s? Because ewww. Add your own.

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Conan is incorrect.

"The city that he builds shall bear my name. The woman that he loves shall bear my child. So it shall be written. So it shall be done."

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Rocky, I would love for you to be right and for me to be wrong on this one, but if history has taught us anything, it's that a fringe religious group or idea can indeed flourish beyond reason. Look at the Mormons. On paper, there's no way the LDS church succeeds. But it did. Likewise with the Watchtower Society, which shattered into more splinters than a woodchipping factory yet grew by leaps and bounds decades after it was thoroughly discredited. Yeah, technology is better today. But technology works both ways -- it gives crackpots a new method to spread their word.

After learning that fairy tale characters are real and that he holds the key to breaking them out of a curse, a member of a temporal integrity security agency goes back to the past to set things right.

Sigh. Fine. Some Like It Hot Dog: The Movie Not to be confused with the novel.

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There were three critical threads. The first was a PFAL review that tried to explore all the issues raised by the class. Jerry Barrax gets full credit for starting that one. I came up with the other two: The Blue Book Review was a walk through The Bible Tells Me So, from my perspective. I don't even agree (today) with everything I wrote in that thread (14 or so years ago). But the central idea -- looking at everything and deciding thoughtfully what is right and what is wrong -- is still a good one. The last one was Actual Errors in PFAL, the ultimate exercise in nitpicking that only existed to prove one single point, namely, that PFAL and other writings of VPW do not live up to their own requirements for what it means for something to be God-breathed. Today, I would probably not participate in any of those threads, much less start two of them.