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Finally catching up on Flash post-crisis season 6 and into season 7. Nice work. Haven't even started Stargirl

Hi Mike. Sorry I didn't see this sooner, but welcome!

The video demonstrates that John really did preach against masks, vaccines and social distancing. Assuming COVID did indeed contribute to his death, that would probably fall under irony. If I am going to be consistent, I have to say it's fair game for discussion. This is tricky, because for whatever reason, COVID has intersected with politics. We can't discuss one without discussing the other, and here at GSC we avoid political discussions. So how do we do it? JAL used his platform to spread misinformation. I'm sorry if that offends your politics, but it is reality. Masks work. Social distancing works. Vaccines work. John didn't believe that, and the disease killed him. I will consult with the other moderators about the extent to which we will permit GSC to be used to spread medical misinformation. In the past, we've debated such issues to the point of exhaustion. But this is not the same as a discussion over the health benefits of superoxygenated water, which is harmless. Misinformation about COVID kills people. Until the moderators reach a decision, comments on this thread will be approved before posting. After review, we're going to leave this thread up and allow people to discuss any aspect of JAL's legacy. This is not merely a memorial page. There is one that was set up in the proper forum. This thread will be renamed to reflect its "open" intent.

Or you could, you know, just ask him to correct his spelling. :)

BB King and Dan Aykroyd And John... Goodman, but not Belushi? Gotta be... Blues Brothers 2000

Ok, NOW I'm comfortable. But two more are forming. Somehow less worried, but that's premature.

Like how snuck "come home" in there? :)

Yes, laddie, the suspense is driving me barking mad.

Do we need to hound you for more clues? Well, after work tomorrow, when I come home, if no one else has guessed it, I might have an idea.

For those following along...

Oh man, Sam making a beeline for Bermuda. Yikes.

This thread is what you guys will make it. It was deliberately left open and we very deliberately chose not to read the riot act before it started. Keeping it uplifting and constructive is the mature thing to do. I tried to express my thoughts without getting insensitive [insofar as his faith gave way to stubbornness, let his legacy be a warning]. Others, trying to do the same, drew the line in a different place. There was no rule against that, but as a community, GSC seems to be coming together to say, as one of you put it, "not cool." John put himself out there as a public figure. You do that, you take the hits. He knew that better than anybody. I've disagreed with him to his face, and we were still cool with each other in the short time we knew each other. How "cool" we keep this thread is up to us. I admired his dedication, his wit and his teaching style. I didn't admire everything he said about God or politics or public health. But I will say without hesitation that he did everything in his power to serve and promote the God he worshipped. Whether he did it wisely or perfectly or even well is not for me to judge.

Let's do this: Since we do not have direct evidence that John avoided masks or the vaccine, and we don't have evidence of why, let's avoid the topic. BUT If he died of lung cancer and continued smoking while preaching about how smoking has never been linked to cancer except by anti-freedom junk scientists, we would mention it and it would not be controversial. You would be offended if I tried to stop the discussion. So the topic is not off limits. But evidence, please, or let's just not go there. Some people are turning every possible subject into politics. Let's not. We'll make mistakes as we try to navigate this, but let's start with something we can agree on: no hearsay. If you didn't hear him say it, or have it on "tape," leave it off GSC.

This is a rough one.

A. A complicated man with a complicated legacy. In many ways, the embodiment of my post-TWI determination not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. He truly believed, as many of us once did, that we were privileged with something extraordinary but imperfect, and he dedicated his life to improving it. Along the way he embraced and promoted some indefensible stuff, and he defended it with a stubborn passion that would be admirable in the service of a more worthy cause. When he met me, I felt broken. He did his best to heal my heart, to restore the sense of spiritual family I lost at a time of personal crisis. He refused to judge me or condemn me. I admire his dedication. As it gave way to stubbornness... let his legacy be a warning.

The familiar clue was John Forsythe refusing to allow his character to commit adultery.

Yes

Yes, Sam. I know he bears a resemblance to Rudy the same way Gomez Addams bears a striking resemblance to the guy who subbed for The Riddler in those two Batman episodes. But that is Samwise Gamgee, not Rudy. Sam. Anyway, until that cone is pointed straight north, I'm a gonna stay worrieded.

Nope. The women on this show never wore the same outfit twice.

It gets a name today.

Ok, not a cone, but look: Peter and Rose [Charlie Hustle Hurricanes] are nothing to worry about, but look yonder, West of Africa. See that red X? That one's got me ready to stock up on gas and empty store shelves of water. Of course, could be nothing. But yeah, keep an eye on it.

One of the leading characters in this drama series was gay... until he was cured! The curing storyline ticked off the actor who played him so he left the show. He was replaced by another actor playing the same character, with a "plastic surgery" explanation. Later in the series, when that character's sister was replaced by a different actress, there was no explanation whatsoever. It was handled as if it were her all along. The character perhaps most identified with this series does not appear in the first season until the last minute of the final episode, and then only from the back or with her face concealed under a huge but very stylish hat, a veil and a pair of sunglasses. That's because she had not yet been cast. Remember the gay guy? He had a homophobic brother. The homophobic brother was played by a gay man. The two men who played the gay brother were straight. I may have used this series before on this thread or a similar one. Some of the clues I'm not using yet seem familiar. In any event, it's been years, so whatevs.

In Jurassic Park, John Hammond brags about the narration in the tour vehicles. "The voice you're hearing is Richard Kiley. Spared no expense." That's why I guessed Richard Kiley.