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JUST GET OVER IT is such a big thing to ya'll. MY definition of it and when I wrote it...meant: MOVE FORWARD WITH YOUR LIFE. AND move forward with your life to ME means, let the weights that hold you down diminish. Do I now need to explain weights? DUH....probably with this group.

I don't know what browser created the file...it "appeared." It doesn't give me the option of read only, etc. when I check properties. Says it's a BIN file, Cache name: CAPZEFGH.bin It only gives me the "general" when I click on it's properties. I'm running XP

I have a file that popped up in my temporary internet folder that won't let me delete it. I can delete all the cookes but not this file. I've run spyroot and my virus software but neither picked it up. How can I get rid of this file: pcSpr3Z8V0b5HNqIap etc etc... Says it s a BIN file. Was never there before. Thanks.

I too have a dog that is around 15 years old....part shephard and part lab. He has had some physical problems in the last year. This is a site I went to and got some really good answers and advice on his condition. Hope it helps: http://forums.pethobbyist.com/index.php If it doesn't work as a "link" in here, copy and paste it into your browser.

Hi==Jonny if you are there and youve supported me...I'm going into chat

If his car broke down I'd call a tow truck....if he was hit by a car I'd call an ambulance. If he needed CPR, I'd do the chest compressions. If he wanted to dump about his life I'd have to refer him to someone with expertise in that area because I'm not qualified....but I would pray for him during the process.

CK...out of curiosity...are you the CK on "My Space" TWI site?

Or not....if the person is attacked for 40 replies (now that is an example, the number...could have picked 20 or 90). SOME of us don't have the opportunity to be on line 24/7. However, defense wasn't the issue in this thread or what a person "usually" would or would not do.

"I" (get it..."I"....from my point of view...no reflections on anyone else)....think at the return of the Lord Jesus Christ and the gathering together of his saints, that this won't even be an issue because there will be no pain, reflection, etc. I also no longer believe the "once saved, always saved" promoted by TWI. I believe this due to Romans 11. The 'firstfruits, lump, root,' etc. is Israel. The wild olive tree branches are the Gentiles. Says they can be broken off just as easily as they were grafted in. Only God knows where VPW was in his heart at death and where LCM is now in reference to this area in Romans or where he will be should he die before the return. THIS IS MY OPINION AND NOT POSTED FOR DEBATE.

T-Bone, it's nice you have that available to you -- someone to critique what you write before you send it. I don't have that available to me.

Apparently there should be a Greasespot Dictionary so that people don't have to spend 20 pages deciding on a definition for a word and if they are correct or the poster is correct or what the poster meant or they know what they meant....etc, etc. Would make things simpler don't ya think? Lordy..... A dictionary with "correct/accepted" definitions so the poster and the reader could always be "politically" correct and on the same page. Just joking...but with a small hint of the truth actually.

Shell, I don't post often but when I did, apparently it wasn't a good idea. I know a lot of people have been hurt by TWI and believe it or not I was also hurt by TWI and it took many years for me to "get over it" as I stated which TO ME in MY defination was to "move on with my life." But no matter what I say or how I say it I will get blasted for it. I didn't condone actions, etc., but I will be attacked no matter what and be accused of being the brick road that led to the interstate of sin at TWI. I believe this will be my last post on GSC. It's too bad that this site has turned out to be such an attack dog. But I did appreciate your post in here. Thanks.

Seems like the "telephone" game here...and what comes out at the end isn't what was started. I do not believe either Fraud or his friend said they talked to Craig about religion. I believe I read that Craig had a book he made notes in and that when both men had conversations, Fraud never discussed religion but Jung it was "lightly" mentioned with. They both met the man; the had the same conclusion about the man. Fraud looked him up on line and fell into this area finding out about him info he didn't know. So he may be curious..who wouldn't be when they ran across something like that after they met a person? Duh...not rocket science there. So he looked and checked and partly why he's here. Big deal. Have you never looked up someone or a sight to check it out when your interest was peeked? Too many here are gun-shy...and maybe should be...but that's your problem...just like in Acts they head behind closed doors because of fear. Fraud...if you or your buddy read this, e-mail me if you want. I'm not into the land-blasting, accusing, etc. I was involved withTWI for 13 years and knew VPW and Craig VERY personally...but I didn't have an agenda or an attitude and I still don't. I personally think the angriest people that post are those that are basically mad at themselves because they were dupped. No one makes you do anything you don't want to do. When you do it and it blows up in your face you blame someone else...instead of recognizing your inadeqaties and moving on. You have to put the blame on someone other than yourself. I think Craig did horrid things where he taught the Word incorrectly. The sexual stuff (was there) I think is more that females actually thought they were privileged to sleep with him (I "KNOW" I'll get attacked for that one). BUT...if a person worked at a company and slept with the boss, she normally got extra priviladges and thought she was on the inside, cool, and upper eschelon (sp). I think a lot of women that slep with Craig felt that way. I don't think they were raped....I think they thought they were "moving up". Look at females...that can be a high for some to think of who they are sleeping with..." he chose me...". I'm not at all saying what he did was right. But I also don't put the blame on the sex totally with him. I believe there were willing partners as I was. The people that call rape are mad because of how it turned out....scorned women. Thought they would get more or the husband found out, whatever. I slept with Craig for 4 years. He even came to my house the day after I was married on his motorcycle. I sent him away. BUT for the 4 years I slept with him, I always thought "I was the only one". Then found out there were others. BUT....I slept with him because I thought I was important, special. Point is, you do what you do because you want to...and you usually think it advances you or makes you special in a "God" atmosphere. Until some are scorned and show their tallens. I feel sorry for Craig. I feel sorry for him in a Godly way because I think he was a young buck that got too much attention too soon and tried to live up to it too quickly. Think he rose and fell like spitting in the air. Think he was groomed for his position...but he was taught like all the rest of us...just with more pressure because he was being groomed. His down-fall was he never questioned anything. I pray for the man. Like I said he's hurt a lot of people - but I still believe that you are an individual and you make your own decisions. You can blame your bad decisions on anyone and anything and point a finger and accuse...but YOU made your decision. To get involved...you decided....to stay...you decided...to agree...you decided. When it all blows up for you, you blame someone else for it blowing up. People don't want to take account for their stupidity or lack so they blame others. Point...Craig hurt people ... point...he taught the Word incorrectly...point..so does the Catholic Church and other religions. Point...who's fault is that? If these people complaining went to another church, the bitching would be the same. As I said I pray for the man to get it right. Maybe the prodigal son? We pray for those that haven't heard the Word and we pray for those that stray. I pray for him to get it right before the return. The olive tree in Romans 11:16-24 refers to Israel being the original Olive tree and we, gentiles, are grafted in. Original branches broken off were Israel because of their actions towards God. The ones grafted in are the Gentiles. Gentiles can be broken off just as easily as the original branches. The Way taught once save always saved. I no longer believe that if you read Romans. But...if Craig is out in the o-zone but originally called of God, I would want to pray for him to be returned despite what he's done. God is the judge and jury...not us. Vengence is mine saith the Lord...so let him decide and people should move on instead of Craig being a stumbling block to them. I really hope you can help him recover. I think he's in shell shock because he did what he was taught to do. He hurt a hell of a lot of people...but on the reverse they allowed themselves to be hurt. E-mail me if you want: dbking98@msn

There was a statue there when they bought the place....probably stowed away someplace too...it was behind bars on one of the paths. You know the place was also a landfill? Soggy in parts because of the springs...but that also made things "come up" from the landfill and we had to go around and collect the "junk" that arose.

You're right OM - that was the original point comparison--the deeds, not the people. It doesn't surprise me that a new thread was started on this topic because there are some that just want to argue which is the case here. The Bible doesn't say Paul apologized after he got born again. If all that were known were written there would not be enough books to contain the information so God wrote what was necessary for mankind to know and apparently the apology issue wasn't necessary for a person's walk or He would have made sure it was written about...but praying for your enemies and forgiveness were written about. The point was the deeds done and after realization the evidence of the walk--not when. Everyone keeps harping on Craig knew what he was doing. How do you "know" what Craig knew and why he knew it or if he swallowed it like everyone else and maybe swallowed more as VP's protege (sp). How do you know what was in his mind and heart? Only God knows a man's heart and only God can proclaim what was and is in Craig's heart. He was taught just as everyone else and maybe, just maybe he thought he was doing the right thing and more and more went off the deep end. But that is Craig's problem to justify with God. I know you all will have a hay-day with that one I'm sure. But the Lord is Judge and jury. If it is so mightily important to some or all of you for an apology from Craig, why don't you start praying for the man and maybe that would be the key for God to work in him to apologize to you. Would the apology satisfy you? Make you a better person? Make your walk different? Or just satisfy a need for revenge? I still stand with my original post and will not respond again although I'm sure you'll tear this apart too. I believe in what I wrote and stand by it and do not need to nor will I defend it.

Allan W. - I am not an innie. I got out in 1990 and Wayfer Not is correct on SOGWAP = Son Of God With All Power.

Looking for DeeAnn Wingate (tall red head) and/or John and Katie Schweiss. DeeAnn was on staff and in the 8th Corps. John worked in food services and married Katie.

My computer is dial-up but gets slower, and slower, and slower. I delete cookies daily. I do a virus scan, adware scan and defrag. Is there a "place" where there is a cache that I should be checking too?

:P I'm still around!

Just talked about Mrs. W tonight with my sister. How is she doing? Last time I was in the area we met at the grocery and she was gracious, loving and hugged me. I'm in the area now....I'd like an update...thanks.

Ex...didnt receive a private message...am I supposed to pick it up somewhere? You can e-mail me at dbking98@msn.com

Been a long time and I know more people have joined. Does anyone know whatever happened to Joann Herman? She was 8th Corps and worked in Word Processing at HQ along with Vicki Dahl who married John Reynolds. Have been looking for her over the past 19 years.

Does anyone know how Mrs. Wierwille doing? Haven't had an update in a while and just wondered how her health, etc was.

That's sad. Claudette and Nancy Hearne will never ever ever leave. Neither of those two really have anywhere to go even if they "saw the light." I lived with Nancy and knew Claudette. They will both "go down with the ship no matter what." Tis a sad thing.

I miss feeling like I belonged someplace and wasn't an "odd ball." I miss feeling that I had a good connection with God...now I'm not so sure and don't want to be deceived again. I miss feeling that I was contributing spiritually because I had that connections (that really in the end apparently wasn't). I miss feeling I was doing something important spiritually when I brought someone to PFAL because they would get delivered. I miss the simplicity of the early years before the whole place turned devilish now and political and money-minded with control freaks in charge. I miss the Rock of Ages and seeing people that you only get to see once a year. I miss the whole that used to be in my heart, and then I thought was filled, to be empty again.