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I do. I have run into past loves. I've been disappointed, glad I never went down that path, and questionned other paths. I think everyone does that.....especially when reminissing. I think that is normal, to think of, wonder where they are, what your life would be if you'd chosen a different path. Sometimes the "old history" re-occurs, rarely I think", and sometimes it works dynamically. I think that if the path had originally been taken "way back when", it might have turned out differently, not so positive. But the older people get if a path is "reconnected" I think it could possibly have a positive outcome. Kind of like how you have to sew the wild seeds, and then remember reality if that makes sense. (This is all JUST MY opinion).

Not EVERYONE in the Way swallowed what was served at meals....or drank the kool-aid if it was offered.

Happy Birthday Wayfernot! Be sure to set off your own fireworks to celebrate!

I left in '88.....but worked from home while on staff from '85-'88 so didn't have to show up except once a week to take in transcripts that I was typing of the entire Rock of Ages from day one till then. So the actual year of leaving would have been '88.

Understand that Biker....but it's when I haven't been on, sign in and I've been there. Sometimes I haven't been on line for days, or a week. I signed in tonight and went to chat....said I was already there.

I went into chat and it said I was already there......I look at the "log in" time too and I haven't been there when it says I was. Dunno...but changed my password. My kids all have my password and I have theirs...my son I know got really angry when I was IM'g a friend so blocked them and I didn't know.

Someone is signing on and posting as "ME"....or talking as "ME" and it's not me!!! I am going to go change my password. When I went to sign on and go to chat, it told me I was already there. This happened to me before but I didn't change my password at the time. So .... someone is on here that is not ME....I don't understand that tho. And when I've come to look at the board and signed in, it said I was just there (where it gives the time last there, etc. So.....some topics or conversations you have had with "ME"...weren't "ME". Just want to let you know.

ROFLMAO JAR!!!

Just out of curiosity....why is this an important subject to you? Does it help you today? If you knew the exact answer would it change your life in any way?

That's the key....................does not want it. Can lead a horse to water but can't make them drink...that's not a Way thing but was used there often. CK will get over it........or figure it out. But really, who cares if they made a site on My Space. You can't make them learn....they will do it on their own. I don't think anything said here will change that because they are "he$$ bent" on a mission. The only thing you can do for people in that position is let the go find out they knock their heads against a wall...but they are the only ones that will learn it. Nothing anyone says will change it, especially because of age. I just don't think it's worth even a discussion, fight, or trying to "save". CK is gonna do what CK wants because CK thinks CK has a "mission." It will either fizzle out...(probably) or CK will re-check self. SO many people did the "off-shoot" and it failed. Let CK go do CK's "thing" cause it will come to naught. Why add fuel to the fire for anyone? It will work......or not. No biggie I would think. Let CK make CK's sight. Doesn't really hurt anyone one way or another. Those that want to "go there" will and those that don't won't.

Who really cares if CK does a Way/Non-Way thing on My Space...really. The invitation was put out...those that want to be there and do whatever will be.....those that don't won't. It's not the "first time" an off-shoot thing came from someone leaving the Way...no difference. If you want to check it out, do so; if you don't, then don't. I don't really understand why this is even a topic anymore. An invitation was extended...accept it or reject it. Seems pretty simple to me. Most with a die-hard vengence, one way or another have started a site (for or against)....so CK did. If it doesn't work, I'm sure CK will be back. There are a lot of Way sites on My Space so CK's isn't much different. "The way to stop a fire is to quit putting gasoline on it."

Maybe the mom was referring to the dad as a goat.....and the kid was responding that he was a "ram": ram [ram] n (plural rams) 1. agriculture male sheep: a male sheep Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. Just a long-shot.....probably a real long shot but that's what came to mind when I read the word "ram".

He was just a "MAN"...he probably could have been more....but pride came in...and as we all know.......Pride comes before a fall.

Time and place....actually you have to focus on the time in the GENERATION that was going on. From that aspect I think he taught alot (even tho later was found out that it was plagerism) but that doesn't deny some of the teachings. But I think he taught what people needed at that time in history/generation to get out of drugs and the hippie movement. Of course I'm from the "old" school and not referring in any way to any of those from 87 on. I'm referring to the 70's. I think he taught a movement that people needed at that time. I think if he had not (even tho I said he plagerized, etc.) I think a lot of people would have committed sucide, died because they didn't like what they were doing but had no "out" or wanted out but didn't know how.....they were searching. TWI was an out for them that gave them something to feel clean and whole again. I think it was an open door to a path it was up to them to find from that point on. I don't throw stones at some of his behavior, but would rather look at, focus on those that probably lived, and still live (even tho I know some died 'after the fact of TWI yadda yadda' I'm not talking about that - that is part of when you get a second chance, you decide how to "spend" it'). But I think with the hippy era going on that he helped a lot of people. Just think it went down the toilet as time went on from there. And if you actually "think"....there are a lot of preachers and sermons that you could classify as "plagerizing"...they repeat someone else's philosophy, teaching, etc. It wasn't actually just HIM, many did and still do. I think he initially took a stand for something good, and as MANY preachers, cross the line when pride occurs...and reaps those results.

The world is taking many nasty directions....mostly sexual. Wasnt that what happened to Sodom and Gomorah? What goes around, comes around...there's nothing new under the sun.. God destroyed Sodem and Gemora because of there sexual stuff. You think today is any differernt? Children? Adults..mosty kids. Why shoud this be any diff then that? Pedifiles were there too..and God destroyed the city. Pedifiles are here now...but diff administration...but in the end...GOD WILL judge these sick people. I took on a child I knew at 5. Gave him a safe home at 12. Didnt work.

1973 - 1990

I have enough problems being understood and communicating on one TWI board....no thanks...double trouble for me I would think!

I'll get a floppy hat :) ....maybe it will fit :) or maybe not :(

I think now what confuses me is that I am an extremely intelligent and talented person. But I feel the rug always gets pulled out from under me. Do any of you think you have or are going through a period where you honestly question your sanity? I do at times. More often now than before. I fit, yet I don't fit. I was labeled as a rebel and as "what it is not" while at HQ and Emporia because I was a rebel. For my birthday sharing in the Corps I did "what it is NOT", put a scrapbook together and left it for people to read. Everything at TWI for me....I fit into what it was NOT. Yes, I stayed, thought I held my ground with my internal beliefs...still think I did so in many ways because I never gave up my relationship with God and Jesus Christ to a man. Never gave any of them my allegiance. I still feel that way. Yet I still question my brain and sanity at times. Do any of you?

You can download free Bible software at this site and use it when off line also.....if you want a free site. http://www.nhwc.org/common/content.asp?PAGE=137

I know someone who is still there...although I haven't had contact with her in years. She is there because....she was raised there and that's all she knows.....her parents were a big part of the "beginning years." She was sent out on the field "once" and couldn't hack it and was brought back after 2 months. Kids that are raised "there" I think are in a different relm of insecurity. This person was. The only "life" she knew was there...and that's all she knows now even though she is probably 50. She has no where to go, knows nothing about life except what they taught. I feel sorry for her.

I apparently don't explain myself very well in written form and I apologize for that. I was told the two drink limit, but them I "quit" TWI after discussion. I was wisked off in a plan "Ambassador One" (or whatever it was called then) to pick me up and was sent to VPW who monitored while I traveled with him drinks. He gave me 2 drinks and cut me off...while he drank....it was scotch. After getting out of the WAY, I turned into a drunk...to make up for lost time and control. When things got hairy here, I took it up again after many years. Not proud of it, just a fact.

I was told the 2 drink limit ...then taken on a plane that picked me up....to make sure I didnt drink.

I'm glad you met him. Maybe you can help him. I'm glad you might become his friend. I hope you continue to let people know positives in his life. I still pray for him. God is our maker and the judge and the days and time are short. That's why I pray for him. Thanks for being here and posting.

Is a "BIN" file something bad?....and where do they "usually" come from?