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Happy Belated b-day, Pawtucket. You are an amazingly courageous and innovative individual. Maybe you have many more to come.

Those are sweet thoughts, Twinkie :)Thank you!

I'm so sad for former way followers who run geer classes in their homes. They do all of the work and invest their time/money for all of those hours to run it cleaning their homes, providing electricity, heat, a/c, and pastoring the new people . The local mog sits back and collects abs and doesn't contribute to the financial end of running the classes yet clears 90% of the abs for his family's benefit and dictates how the classes will be run. Then, cg sits back and collects 10% of the licensed mog's abs. Or, was it 20%? Someone else can probably remember. Some of these people are wonderful couples who, for whatever reason, were never leaders in twi. I suppose their role as a leader is that important to them and that is why they do it. But, what about the eternal rewards? Is this what God wants for them? Propping up mogs, footing the bill both timewise and financially, while someone else reaps the rewards? Are there eternal rewards for being stupid? Doesn't the Bible say something about the workman is worthy of his hire? And, to top it all off, the mogs don't even have to sit there hour after hour and listen to the boring class. Man. Do they have it made, or what?

Leafytwiglet, All kidding aside, how close are you to your friend? I was just a bit concerned b/c I made a friend once who ran fellowships and later discovered she really was just a "friend." In other words, she saw me as a potential contributor to her and her hub's group. My husband did eventually start going to their "church" and we later contributed quite a bit to their organization. They were doing "inner healing" which turned out to be just them getting people to tell their deepest darkest secrets after lying on the floor and listening to praise music over the course of several month and later years. I feel very foolish even talking about it now and sincerely hope this isn't the same type of thing that your friend or "friend" is doing. Peace! wb

Leafytwiglet, you sound like you're in a good place to evaluate what they're planning to "do to" you. Sorry. I meant "for" you. LOL!!! And, I'll bet they think they're doing something new.

Nice!

Thanks for bringing this back, Jeff. I had never read it. Kept wondering several pages back, if the DIL was mimicing some of her mother's behaviors which they, the MOGS, would have known about from her bio. Maybe that was why she was one of their targets. Thanks Krys for talking about this very painful subject. So happy your son is doing well and is successful and has moved on as much as he seems to have done. I agree with another poster who wishes the DIL well. I also hope she gets the therapy that she most certainly would need after these abuses.

I agree. That's not even in the equation, imo.Let's see...where did we learn that it was????? When we marry, we take vows. Any vow our spouse breaks does not negate vows that we took.

Cman, THANK YOU! You're about the nicest person on this board. YOU THE MAN!

You know, I'm just not sure if my files are backed up. You need to back up your files b4 trying to remove it. What a pain. Yes, I googled it b4 asking for help.

Hello wise geeks, I need help. The UpdateTask.exe keeps wanting to connect to the internet. I scanned spybot and then did a full system scan on F-secure--nothing. Also, looked for it in Add/Remove programs. Not there. How do I get rid of it? Thanks! wb

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh. THANK YOU, TAXICAB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And, I certainly AM! My involvement with all of that now seems like a bad dream.

Errors in PFAL? There are so many I could not catalog them. On the other hand, a lot of his information, advice about living, came for the AA book. Seriously. "His" definition for humble is just one of them.

How do I respond to bullying now? Not well. I lost a job due to standing up to a bully at work one time.

Ah, yes. We know some in our town like that, unfortunately.

Didn't read the becoming god part, WW. FUNNY!!!!! Lots a odd-balls out there. There's something for everyone :) I suppose...

Could I answer you original question, Belle, without getting off topic? How stupid can I be? Pretty darn stupid! I was involved with The Way Ministry for 15 years and then offshoots for another, oh 20, so how crazy is that? Pretty darn stupid!

Ah, yes, I thought the same thing, Tazia, at first. But, would it really be like that once you got involved... I have my doubts. They started it, so my guess is it's THEIRS...no matter how involved and supportive other Christians become who hook up with them. Again, just my opinion for what that's worth.

This sounded so good... "Why I Quit Church and Started Attending Love Feasts" Then, it sounded so familiar... Nothing new under the sun, I suppose... Apparently, Baptist minister turned Mormon, now doing own thing house church but will speak at your house church if you book him...

Sadly, even if they wanted to, they may not have deep enough pockets to go to court and win. Maybe a philanthropist out there is listening.

It's sure not what I thought it was in The Way, that's for sure.

June Cleaver. How did she ever do any housework in those perfectly starched dresses and those heels? Thanks Ron for the photo and Paw for letting us know how old the photo is. Amazing.

I didn't know either. I totally believed it was a Christian ministry. And, we may be in the majority of the people who were involved back then.

You mean they weren't really giving him massages???????

Is that Bruce Mah0ne's group?