Interesting dream. My guess is that the small vehicle and its accompanying characteristics (no brakes, one wheel, not much space, high speed; ie you can't control it) is TWI and the nickel is GSC, and failure to make that turn is anxiety about possible wasted opportunities in life, and the next city is the point of no return. But you did return. How did you get enough force on the nickel to cause sparks if you were lying on your back? Sounds like you still feel some urgency about having been in TWI even if you haven't been in for awhile.
...or it could just be that life's going along at a faster pace than you'd like and want to slow it down a little in order to be able to control it... or try to...
(please leave a nickle in the cup by the door on your way out)
I started having extremely vivid dreams when I left TWI and even moreso as I worked on healing from that and my divorce. As a result, I got very interested in dream interpretation. www.dreammoods.com has a dictionary for different symbols common to dreams and I consult it regularly. :)
Obviously dreams are very personal in meaning and don't always fit with some standard, but usually I get an indication of where to start in my own personal analysis. Not what you were asking, I know, but thought I'd share in case you or others are interested.
What I found most intriguing were the number of dreams I had about needing to go to the bathroom and not being able to get the privacy I desired.
I also had lots of dreams about elevators.
It's been an incredible journey and journaling with much additional self-evaluation has been a long, strange trip. I'm enjoying every centimeter of the journey.
johniam...honestly, there wasnt much of a thought or feeling of twi in this dream
has a lot more to do with miss being with my mom and family for christmas
living on the other side of the cascades from them in winter
which has a lot to do, of course, with going wow and leaving town in the first place...hmm...
thanks for the guesses
tom..i guess you can have one the nickels Whitedove gave us
cuz yeah...a lot new work and new things are coming up on me pretty fast
and i really do love what i'm doing right now
and i dont really want to slow down
...nickel was for navigation, i think
like i needed a rutter or something
e...luv...and ya know...it feels and seems to me as if the second half of life becomes more about going home than it ever was about getting anywhere else anyway. and that the journey home can be as long as the journey you went on. just as many steps from another direction. i dunno..just rambling sister
gold curly locks...not sure what yer sayin...but sure that is one crazy funny avatar to go with it..and yeah...i did give it my all...steering mostly. i thought i might end up blowing through someone's house like a human cannon ball.
Belle...a rule of thumb i like to use, is how you (or i) are most qualified to interpret your (or my) own dreams, simply from being the only one with direct access to recollect the dream. in other words...not even jung or a shaman can tell you how you felt about a symbol or animal in a dream, or what you knew about it and the storyline behind it. though they may know how to help us ask better questions. the arts of open inquiry into dreams is exotic and spans all cultures and times. but ultimately...the dreamer is the only one who dreamt the dream.
so whether its playfully light or deeply serious and important, it was some sort of only asking the dreamer kind, curious questions meant for helping the dreamer find more precision and clarity.
its almost a given how the dream is never anything but wild and untamed and typically hard to catch.
artful inquiry reminds me of sitting at a bench in a park and sharing nuts with the squirrels
the dreams come out of the woods if you simply sit still and give them free food
maybe play a flute
just so they'll come out for you to observe
and name, perhaps
cuz you sure as hell cant catch em.
dreams can be like that, i have found
a most ordinary magic, in a sense
"I'm enjoying every centimeter of the journey."
ha! yep..thats it, it seems, aint it?
if one is also on a journey inside as much as outside
(skull? brain? body? whatever)
and its also a life-long trip
it must then also a very short slow trip or something
cuz physically...we dont really have that far to go
...white dove
what a wonderfel song
i have never had the pleasure of hearing that one
btw...whose Melanie?
and too..reflecting on the nickel...i wonder how i might be looking for a cheap quick financial way to change my course...or something. maybe i just couldnt very well use a dollar or a credit card to stop or steer the speeding a$$-rocket...or whatever it was
I have been feeling a bit of the same these days and last night had a very funny one as well. Belle's online dictionary actually pinned many things I have been feeling and dealing with to a tee....but who knows. I woke up laughing about it. If you don't mind....
In the dream my wife and I wake up in the boys room, but we don't have boys and things are set up differently. We wake up and it is 11am.
We're late.
So we start rushing around to get ready and I go into the bathroom to see that the toilet, sink and vanity are gone. Everything is stripped to the floor.
I call my wife in to look at it and we come to the conclusion that one of us called maintainance and they came and took it while we were sleeping in.
We turn to go back into the room only to scare the crap out of ourselves as we almost walk into a second set of us. They are waking up, but at a normal time, like 7am. They don't see us, but we see them, this freaks us out a bit.
So the second me is getting ready and goes into the bathroom for the morning release. The first wife and I look at eachother with concern, because obviously the second me doesn't notice that there is no toilet. So second me starts to go and the first us watches as it fills an invisible toilet. Second me finishes and flushes and we watch the water go down the invisible toilet and down the invisible plumbing. The same goes for the sink as me #2 washes his hands in what appears to be an invisible sink.
I begin to realise that not only are we watching ourselves at an earlier time in the day but in a totally different time all together. I start to geek out about whether we are in alternate universes or if we or they are in the past or future, or if they are different people all together, and what the hell happened to our bathroom fixtures anyway, when there is a knock at the door.
The maintianance guy is there and he begins to reinstall the new toilet and sink while Me and wife #2 get ready around him.
Then I wake up.
I must say it has been a while since I remembered much about my dreams but this one came right at a big point in our life, and when I woke up it made me laugh. I have just finished a kitchen project that has taken up the greater part of my life over the last year. That is a major weight off my shoulders and the end of a pretty chaotic but exciting time. We are putting our boys in daycare starting in 07 and have been filling out the paperwork and having meetings in the past week. I am seriously starting my business come the new year as well. So there is some anxiety over no longer watching my boys during the day and the uncertainty of starting a business. We are also leaving the boys for the first time this coming week with my mom-in-law for a couple of days. So, we are also finally doing our Will before we go. Belle's link had meanings to a lot of the symboles like the bathroom/ urination, waking up late, being invisible, etc that totally hit on a lot of the feelings that have come along with life of late.
Although, I didn't see anything in there on invisible toilets.
Good luck with your rocket cerial bowl.
Say, have you added fiber to your breakfast lately?
Ah, SirGuess! Melanie is only the most wonderful singer of all times! I couldn't find a video of her doing the nickle song, but here she is with Brand New Key.
Belle...a rule of thumb i like to use, is how you (or i) are most qualified to interpret your (or my) own dreams, simply from being the only one with direct access to recollect the dream. in other words...not even jung or a shaman can tell you how you felt about a symbol or animal in a dream, or what you knew about it and the storyline behind it. though they may know how to help us ask better questions. the arts of open inquiry into dreams is exotic and spans all cultures and times. but ultimately...the dreamer is the only one who dreamt the dream.
so whether its playfully light or deeply serious and important, it was some sort of only asking the dreamer kind, curious questions meant for helping the dreamer find more precision and clarity.
its almost a given how the dream is never anything but wild and untamed and typically hard to catch.
artful inquiry reminds me of sitting at a bench in a park and sharing nuts with the squirrels
the dreams come out of the woods if you simply sit still and give them free food
maybe play a flute
just so they'll come out for you to observe
and name, perhaps
cuz you sure as hell cant catch em.
Thanks Sirguessalot !!!! That's one of the keewlest things I've ever heard about dreams...Liked your dream too...I'm going to have to try that twilight journaling stuff myself...sounds like fun...
She's won a Grammy, an Emmy, scores of top female vocalist awards, and the hearts of millions from Woodstock to Albert Hall. Over her long career, Melanie has recorded over 25 albums and sold millions of records.
During her lifetime, Melanie has amassed an impressive list of accomplishments. More impressive, however, is the fact that she did it without sacrificing her personal integrety. She was the first contemporary solo artist to play Carnagie Hall, the Met, the Sydney Opera House, and for the United Nations General Assembly. While Melanie persued her career, she also contributed time and energy for a while as the chief spokesperson for UNICEF.
Melanie's voice is a powerful instrument, and she sings with a unique passion and intensity. Her lyrics are thoughtful, and sometimes mysterious. Her melodies are often beautiful beyond description. Her style is captivating. In all the world of music, there is no one else like her.
my favorite quote from the link: ""When I look at something like this, I realize that all the powers on Earth, all the emperors, all the money, cannot change it one iota. We are observers, but the wonderful part of that is that we are the only species on this planet that can observe it and understand it."
that understanding engenders a litlle more faith in me than i had prior to reading it
What I understood GoldCurlyLocks saying was: you may have been reviewing your past years and feeling you didn't turn when you should've but gave it your best ....so be at peace with yourself....like the planets, we have no control over some things....sht just happens
maybe the nickel was like the two mites
Todd, i love who you are and the wisdom of your words, i envy your apparent control and thoughtfulness as well as others' on this thread...i'm working on it, you are all an inspiration
p.s. i was not able to purchase the "Blush" print or the others this year, tough year, it's got it's own chapter in the history of my life. Are they still available in the coming year?
if i recall, the following song streams right into "boy, you're gonna carry that weight" .....still fits in the dream, i think.....still prophetic for me
the beatles were tight and right....i LOVE Paul McCartney...i ache for Paul, he loved Linda...."you're gonna lose that girl" .....all that money and he can't move a planet or do some other things
and now I must get back to sleep......nickel in hand
love yous.....hoping telepathy becomes the method of communication, cuz words fail me
damn ants got it goin on!
edit: it's about 4:20 and i can hear the hunters shooting at "my" deer...if they get back home they'll be safe...i don't have a gun and i don't want to hurt noone...i've actually bought them bags of apples....i talk (imitate the noise they make) to them, i don't understand it...might be a mating thing, i should be careful,.... they come around when i play guitar outside at dusk....now you know i'm crazy
Sounds like a wild and fun ride while not even leaven your bed in the fleshly realm but a long trip spiritually
I love dreams but I recall a small amount of mine these days but some times mine play over and over until I write a word of prophecy on the very sobject that my dream are teaching me
In my dreams I have walked all nine planets and the sun
In my dreams I have talk to Adam, Moses, John the Baptist, George Muller. E. W. Bullinger, my Mother, my Aunt, and many more
but while in my dreams I tried to talk to Cain, and a few others I could not reach them
I have visit all the many layers of Heaven the inter, the outer, and the ones between the two
I have had many pets of old visit me and many that I never knew sating talking to me in my 12x55 mobil home some time 1,000 at even given second of my dreams
I have jump for joy and I have cried my eyes out in my dreams
I have travel to the Past, I have travel into the Future, and I have travel beween time itself
I have walked on clouds, I have walked on water, I have walked on air, I have walked on sun rays, and I have walked on that which is between it all
thank you I love dreams
with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy until we see one another in our dreams
roy, i've understood a lot of what you say, but your greetings and salutations freak me out
in my world, god is not a man figure, breath is not a woman figure, and if jesus is my brother i wish he'd show up and help me chop wood and carry water
no offense intended, i just think we've spent a lot of time being tricked and/or tricking ourselves into "personifying spirit" <<<<<< oxymoron ....ya think?
if you are for real, roy, i'm working towards "truthiness" with ya...if you're not for real...ya know, like TWI and all the other heavenly name droppers, you can f'off
it is kinda weird...like i said , i've understood the body of your posts...you CAN talk to me with no fluff
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Interesting dream. My guess is that the small vehicle and its accompanying characteristics (no brakes, one wheel, not much space, high speed; ie you can't control it) is TWI and the nickel is GSC, and failure to make that turn is anxiety about possible wasted opportunities in life, and the next city is the point of no return. But you did return. How did you get enough force on the nickel to cause sparks if you were lying on your back? Sounds like you still feel some urgency about having been in TWI even if you haven't been in for awhile.
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...or it could just be that life's going along at a faster pace than you'd like and want to slow it down a little in order to be able to control it... or try to...
(please leave a nickle in the cup by the door on your way out)
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thank you for telling about your dream dearest t
i'm always wanting to get get back home
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Maybe u were in reverse of yester years.. and knew you should take that turn,,sounds you gave ityour all..
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stop you're making me have to pee pee
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I started having extremely vivid dreams when I left TWI and even moreso as I worked on healing from that and my divorce. As a result, I got very interested in dream interpretation. www.dreammoods.com has a dictionary for different symbols common to dreams and I consult it regularly. :)
Obviously dreams are very personal in meaning and don't always fit with some standard, but usually I get an indication of where to start in my own personal analysis. Not what you were asking, I know, but thought I'd share in case you or others are interested.
What I found most intriguing were the number of dreams I had about needing to go to the bathroom and not being able to get the privacy I desired.
I also had lots of dreams about elevators.
It's been an incredible journey and journaling with much additional self-evaluation has been a long, strange trip.
I'm enjoying every centimeter of the journey.
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Or maybe you have heard the Nckel Song one too many times.
THE NICKEL SONG
Melanie
Well you know that I'm not a gambler
But I'm being gambled on
They put in a nickel and I sing a little song
Da-da-da-da
They put in a nickel and I sing a little song
Well, I don't mind that they're lucky
But it seems that they always win
And gamblin' is illegal in the state of mind I'm in
And if I had a nickel for each time that
I've been put on
I would be their nickel man
And I'd sing a little song
They're only putting in a nickel and
They want a dollar song
They're only putting in a little to
Get rid of a lot that's
Wrong.
Well I don't know so many things
But I know what's been goin' on
We're only putting in a little
To get rid of a lot that's wrong
And if we had a nickel for each time that
We've been put on
We'd all be their nickel man
And we'd sing a nickel song
You know they're only putting in a nickel
And they win a dollar song
Oh, yeah, they're only putting in a little
To get rid of a lot that's wrong
Oh, they're only putting in a nickel
To win a dollar song
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ha...luv it
thanks guys for throwing in
i like Tbone's style on that other thread, too
stitches a nice line in the weave, it seems
johniam...honestly, there wasnt much of a thought or feeling of twi in this dream
has a lot more to do with miss being with my mom and family for christmas
living on the other side of the cascades from them in winter
which has a lot to do, of course, with going wow and leaving town in the first place...hmm...
thanks for the guesses
tom..i guess you can have one the nickels Whitedove gave us
cuz yeah...a lot new work and new things are coming up on me pretty fast
and i really do love what i'm doing right now
and i dont really want to slow down
...nickel was for navigation, i think
like i needed a rutter or something
e...luv...and ya know...it feels and seems to me as if the second half of life becomes more about going home than it ever was about getting anywhere else anyway. and that the journey home can be as long as the journey you went on. just as many steps from another direction. i dunno..just rambling sister
gold curly locks...not sure what yer sayin...but sure that is one crazy funny avatar to go with it..and yeah...i did give it my all...steering mostly. i thought i might end up blowing through someone's house like a human cannon ball.
Belle...a rule of thumb i like to use, is how you (or i) are most qualified to interpret your (or my) own dreams, simply from being the only one with direct access to recollect the dream. in other words...not even jung or a shaman can tell you how you felt about a symbol or animal in a dream, or what you knew about it and the storyline behind it. though they may know how to help us ask better questions. the arts of open inquiry into dreams is exotic and spans all cultures and times. but ultimately...the dreamer is the only one who dreamt the dream.
so whether its playfully light or deeply serious and important, it was some sort of only asking the dreamer kind, curious questions meant for helping the dreamer find more precision and clarity.
its almost a given how the dream is never anything but wild and untamed and typically hard to catch.
artful inquiry reminds me of sitting at a bench in a park and sharing nuts with the squirrels
the dreams come out of the woods if you simply sit still and give them free food
maybe play a flute
just so they'll come out for you to observe
and name, perhaps
cuz you sure as hell cant catch em.
dreams can be like that, i have found
a most ordinary magic, in a sense
"I'm enjoying every centimeter of the journey."
ha! yep..thats it, it seems, aint it?
if one is also on a journey inside as much as outside
(skull? brain? body? whatever)
and its also a life-long trip
it must then also a very short slow trip or something
cuz physically...we dont really have that far to go
...white dove
what a wonderfel song
i have never had the pleasure of hearing that one
btw...whose Melanie?
and too..reflecting on the nickel...i wonder how i might be looking for a cheap quick financial way to change my course...or something. maybe i just couldnt very well use a dollar or a credit card to stop or steer the speeding a$$-rocket...or whatever it was
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ha, Sir G, that was funny.
I have been feeling a bit of the same these days and last night had a very funny one as well. Belle's online dictionary actually pinned many things I have been feeling and dealing with to a tee....but who knows. I woke up laughing about it. If you don't mind....
In the dream my wife and I wake up in the boys room, but we don't have boys and things are set up differently. We wake up and it is 11am.
We're late.
So we start rushing around to get ready and I go into the bathroom to see that the toilet, sink and vanity are gone. Everything is stripped to the floor.
I call my wife in to look at it and we come to the conclusion that one of us called maintainance and they came and took it while we were sleeping in.
We turn to go back into the room only to scare the crap out of ourselves as we almost walk into a second set of us. They are waking up, but at a normal time, like 7am. They don't see us, but we see them, this freaks us out a bit.
So the second me is getting ready and goes into the bathroom for the morning release. The first wife and I look at eachother with concern, because obviously the second me doesn't notice that there is no toilet. So second me starts to go and the first us watches as it fills an invisible toilet. Second me finishes and flushes and we watch the water go down the invisible toilet and down the invisible plumbing. The same goes for the sink as me #2 washes his hands in what appears to be an invisible sink.
I begin to realise that not only are we watching ourselves at an earlier time in the day but in a totally different time all together. I start to geek out about whether we are in alternate universes or if we or they are in the past or future, or if they are different people all together, and what the hell happened to our bathroom fixtures anyway, when there is a knock at the door.
The maintianance guy is there and he begins to reinstall the new toilet and sink while Me and wife #2 get ready around him.
Then I wake up.
I must say it has been a while since I remembered much about my dreams but this one came right at a big point in our life, and when I woke up it made me laugh. I have just finished a kitchen project that has taken up the greater part of my life over the last year. That is a major weight off my shoulders and the end of a pretty chaotic but exciting time. We are putting our boys in daycare starting in 07 and have been filling out the paperwork and having meetings in the past week. I am seriously starting my business come the new year as well. So there is some anxiety over no longer watching my boys during the day and the uncertainty of starting a business. We are also leaving the boys for the first time this coming week with my mom-in-law for a couple of days. So, we are also finally doing our Will before we go. Belle's link had meanings to a lot of the symboles like the bathroom/ urination, waking up late, being invisible, etc that totally hit on a lot of the feelings that have come along with life of late.
Although, I didn't see anything in there on invisible toilets.
Good luck with your rocket cerial bowl.
Say, have you added fiber to your breakfast lately?
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Ah, SirGuess! Melanie is only the most wonderful singer of all times! I couldn't find a video of her doing the nickle song, but here she is with Brand New Key.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xd7MVwET0QY
Enjoy!
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Thanks Sirguessalot !!!! That's one of the keewlest things I've ever heard about dreams...Liked your dream too...I'm going to have to try that twilight journaling stuff myself...sounds like fun...
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young Lindy... please send me some of whatever you ingested the night before that dream!!! :)
I wants me some... please young Hopper, please!
I want to have some of those twilight zone dreams!
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Who is Melanie?
She's won a Grammy, an Emmy, scores of top female vocalist awards, and the hearts of millions from Woodstock to Albert Hall. Over her long career, Melanie has recorded over 25 albums and sold millions of records.
During her lifetime, Melanie has amassed an impressive list of accomplishments. More impressive, however, is the fact that she did it without sacrificing her personal integrety. She was the first contemporary solo artist to play Carnagie Hall, the Met, the Sydney Opera House, and for the United Nations General Assembly. While Melanie persued her career, she also contributed time and energy for a while as the chief spokesperson for UNICEF.
Melanie's voice is a powerful instrument, and she sings with a unique passion and intensity. Her lyrics are thoughtful, and sometimes mysterious. Her melodies are often beautiful beyond description. Her style is captivating. In all the world of music, there is no one else like her.
Melanie
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oh, how wonderful
I remember now
yes...Melanie!
thank you again, guys
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OK, the nickel means you aren't willing to spend/give up what it takes to change your course ...
Please send me $175 for your first hour of dream interpretation :) Tom's nickel advice will not help you.
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well..dr Rhino
to tell the truth...the nickel just kind of showed up in my hand
like it was change from the seat
it just happened to be there
and happened to work
in reflection, i feel as if the lesson for me is more about how much more you can do with a nickel to navigate
than simply throwing more money at the inability to control the outcome
i dunno
$175
and yer telling me it took you an hour to come up with that?
hehe
yeah right
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frickafrack
that's almost prophetic to me
cool thread....good peeps here
dreams have always intrigued me, i get some of those "wth was that?" and go searching my psyche
for the stargazers: sunday morning in the East South East sky there will be a cluster/alignment of planets
http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/12/08/t...s.ap/index.html
my favorite quote from the link: ""When I look at something like this, I realize that all the powers on Earth, all the emperors, all the money, cannot change it one iota. We are observers, but the wonderful part of that is that we are the only species on this planet that can observe it and understand it."
that understanding engenders a litlle more faith in me than i had prior to reading it
What I understood GoldCurlyLocks saying was: you may have been reviewing your past years and feeling you didn't turn when you should've but gave it your best ....so be at peace with yourself....like the planets, we have no control over some things....sht just happens
maybe the nickel was like the two mites
Todd, i love who you are and the wisdom of your words, i envy your apparent control and thoughtfulness as well as others' on this thread...i'm working on it, you are all an inspiration
p.s. i was not able to purchase the "Blush" print or the others this year, tough year, it's got it's own chapter in the history of my life. Are they still available in the coming year?
if i recall, the following song streams right into "boy, you're gonna carry that weight" .....still fits in the dream, i think.....still prophetic for me
the beatles were tight and right....i LOVE Paul McCartney...i ache for Paul, he loved Linda...."you're gonna lose that girl" .....all that money and he can't move a planet or do some other things
Golden Slumbers
Once there was a way to get back homeward
Once there was a way to get back home
Sleep pretty darling do not cry
And I will sing a lullaby
Golden slumbers fill your eyes
Smiles awake you when you rise
Sleep pretty darling do not cry
And I will sing a lullaby
Once there was a way to get back homeward
Once there was a way to get back home
Sleep pretty darling do not cry
And I will sing a lullaby
--------------------------------------------------------------
and now I must get back to sleep......nickel in hand
love yous.....hoping telepathy becomes the method of communication, cuz words fail me
damn ants got it goin on!
edit: it's about 4:20 and i can hear the hunters shooting at "my" deer...if they get back home they'll be safe...i don't have a gun and i don't want to hurt noone...i've actually bought them bags of apples....i talk (imitate the noise they make) to them, i don't understand it...might be a mating thing, i should be careful,.... they come around when i play guitar outside at dusk....now you know i'm crazy
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ah...you have really lit me up, frickfrack...and thank you
yes, Blush is always on the table
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God first
Beloved Todd know as Sir Guess Alot
God loves you my dear friends
Sounds like a wild and fun ride while not even leaven your bed in the fleshly realm but a long trip spiritually
I love dreams but I recall a small amount of mine these days but some times mine play over and over until I write a word of prophecy on the very sobject that my dream are teaching me
In my dreams I have walked all nine planets and the sun
In my dreams I have talk to Adam, Moses, John the Baptist, George Muller. E. W. Bullinger, my Mother, my Aunt, and many more
but while in my dreams I tried to talk to Cain, and a few others I could not reach them
I have visit all the many layers of Heaven the inter, the outer, and the ones between the two
I have had many pets of old visit me and many that I never knew sating talking to me in my 12x55 mobil home some time 1,000 at even given second of my dreams
I have jump for joy and I have cried my eyes out in my dreams
I have travel to the Past, I have travel into the Future, and I have travel beween time itself
I have walked on clouds, I have walked on water, I have walked on air, I have walked on sun rays, and I have walked on that which is between it all
thank you I love dreams
with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy until we see one another in our dreams
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and the more i know and feel about such things as dreams
and religion and medicine and comas and dying and near-dying
and the more i know about your life, brother Roy
the more and more your naked appeals and expressions make sense to me
and though ive enjoyed from the beginning, as you know
there is an ongoing ripening to all this, our foolishness
and i mean everyone's foolishness...in a big bowl, ya know?
you have dug deep wells, my friend
and have seen the fountainhead
just thought id say all that...cuz it seems worth saying, i guess
...positively odd
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...positively odd = +odd
i gotcha ....cool
roy, i've understood a lot of what you say, but your greetings and salutations freak me out
in my world, god is not a man figure, breath is not a woman figure, and if jesus is my brother i wish he'd show up and help me chop wood and carry water
no offense intended, i just think we've spent a lot of time being tricked and/or tricking ourselves into "personifying spirit" <<<<<< oxymoron ....ya think?
if you are for real, roy, i'm working towards "truthiness" with ya...if you're not for real...ya know, like TWI and all the other heavenly name droppers, you can f'off
it is kinda weird...like i said , i've understood the body of your posts...you CAN talk to me with no fluff
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year2027
God first
Beloved Todd and frickafrack
God loves us all
yes its worth saying my friend
yes we must think so far outside the box that the box is out of sight
I am sorry my greetings and salutations are hard to get used to but it was a hard thing to begin but I guess its here
no offense intended tooken my friend
I think I am real or at least I do my best to be real
We can only do our best in how we write and how we talk to each other
But one good thing is I will not receive tithes because I am not a Levite that I know of
I glad you understand the body of my posts
I glad you take things slow my friend and stray far from traps like the Way was
I will stop here
thank you
with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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