Monte Mader is a culture critic, musician, podcaster, and fitness professional whose transformation from conservative fundamentalism to fearless truth-teller has made her a powerful voice for cultural change.
Born and raised on a cattle ranch in Wyoming by her father—a passionate musician and rock music lover—Monte’s early life was steeped in Christian fundamentalism and conservative politics. She pursued theological studies in Israel and was immersed in environments that emphasized obedience and traditional gender roles. However, personal experiences and critical reflection led her to question and eventually deconstruct these belief systems.[/quote/]
We do know that Paul took elements of Greek philosophy and turned them on their heads. I don't know if a lot of churches teach that sort of stuff. I haven't heard it taught.
This woman really knows a lot of Bible and challenges so many assumptions and claims, especially about a white Jesus, white male privilege; and the oppression of weaker groups within community, specifically women, LGB communities, lower paid workers and those unable to work, and immigrants.
Have a look at some of her other stuff and see what you think.
I think her challenges to those traditional assumptions have merit. I don’t disagree with her. Jesus being white is laughable.
I am presently convinced by the textual and manuscript evidence against those anti-women verses being authentically Pauline. Paul was a radical. Later scribes couldn’t handle it, so they added verses, even forged whole epistles, to MAKE Paul fit like a glove on their misogynistic hands.
In terms of where this thread goes, I think the original purpose of Questioning Faith is to give unbelievers a place to express unbelief without interrupting genuine discussions about doctrine with predictable arguments that would literally derail every conversation.
This is middle ground. If you want to discuss whether her observations are Biblically correct, this is the right forum for that.
I agree that the apparently misogynistic elements of the epistles are probably not genuinely from Paul, and as long as "that wasn't in the original -- scratch it out" is fair game within doctrinal, I think it's fair game here.
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I thought you folks might be interested in this woman's take on a lot of so-called Christian dogma. She calls herself an "exvangelist."
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Monte Mader | Deconstructed, former Alt-Right Christian Nationalist
Here's one of her snippets that popped into my Facebook feed, about 1 Cor 14 (women being silent in the church) - no way for this woman!!!
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Interesting bit about Cato. It seems the later scribe who added verses 34 and 35 was familiar with his popular injunction.
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We do know that Paul took elements of Greek philosophy and turned them on their heads. I don't know if a lot of churches teach that sort of stuff. I haven't heard it taught.
This woman really knows a lot of Bible and challenges so many assumptions and claims, especially about a white Jesus, white male privilege; and the oppression of weaker groups within community, specifically women, LGB communities, lower paid workers and those unable to work, and immigrants.
Have a look at some of her other stuff and see what you think.
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I think her challenges to those traditional assumptions have merit. I don’t disagree with her. Jesus being white is laughable.
I am presently convinced by the textual and manuscript evidence against those anti-women verses being authentically Pauline. Paul was a radical. Later scribes couldn’t handle it, so they added verses, even forged whole epistles, to MAKE Paul fit like a glove on their misogynistic hands.
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In terms of where this thread goes, I think the original purpose of Questioning Faith is to give unbelievers a place to express unbelief without interrupting genuine discussions about doctrine with predictable arguments that would literally derail every conversation.
This is middle ground. If you want to discuss whether her observations are Biblically correct, this is the right forum for that.
I agree that the apparently misogynistic elements of the epistles are probably not genuinely from Paul, and as long as "that wasn't in the original -- scratch it out" is fair game within doctrinal, I think it's fair game here.
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