Monte Mader is a culture critic, musician, podcaster, and fitness professional whose transformation from conservative fundamentalism to fearless truth-teller has made her a powerful voice for cultural change.
Born and raised on a cattle ranch in Wyoming by her father—a passionate musician and rock music lover—Monte’s early life was steeped in Christian fundamentalism and conservative politics. She pursued theological studies in Israel and was immersed in environments that emphasized obedience and traditional gender roles. However, personal experiences and critical reflection led her to question and eventually deconstruct these belief systems.[/quote/]
We do know that Paul took elements of Greek philosophy and turned them on their heads. I don't know if a lot of churches teach that sort of stuff. I haven't heard it taught.
This woman really knows a lot of Bible and challenges so many assumptions and claims, especially about a white Jesus, white male privilege; and the oppression of weaker groups within community, specifically women, LGB communities, lower paid workers and those unable to work, and immigrants.
Have a look at some of her other stuff and see what you think.
I think her challenges to those traditional assumptions have merit. I don’t disagree with her. Jesus being white is laughable.
I am presently convinced by the textual and manuscript evidence against those anti-women verses being authentically Pauline. Paul was a radical. Later scribes couldn’t handle it, so they added verses, even forged whole epistles, to MAKE Paul fit like a glove on their misogynistic hands.
In terms of where this thread goes, I think the original purpose of Questioning Faith is to give unbelievers a place to express unbelief without interrupting genuine discussions about doctrine with predictable arguments that would literally derail every conversation.
This is middle ground. If you want to discuss whether her observations are Biblically correct, this is the right forum for that.
I agree that the apparently misogynistic elements of the epistles are probably not genuinely from Paul, and as long as "that wasn't in the original -- scratch it out" is fair game within doctrinal, I think it's fair game here.
I'll try to watch as much of her stuff as I can... she's got alot there. It may be helpful for someone simply to mention a topic that she believes in and we can discuss it outright rather than watch the video...
"Legend of the Bell Witch" -- No problem believing it... evil spirits and related activities etc.
The murder-suicide of Zack and Addie ... horrible and gruesome... he suffered from PTSD already ... THAT plus the drug abuse was enough to open up the trap door allowing the evil spirit(s) to enter ...
American Mafia -- thorough and enjoyable to hear the history of the Mob. When she was in NY she lived in Astoria... so did I for a year or so...memories...
Expand your vision, people. The world is not the USA. And the vision presented by news sources in the USA is very biased, one way or the other, with insufficient apolitical reporting, and not much international reporting.
There are many countries outside USA - it's true!! It really is!! There are 50 countries in Europe, 54 in Africa, 48 in Asia, 12 in South America. 195 countries altogether, sharing this planetary space. That may mean 195 different cultural outlooks, problems, benefits. Life works much better if we can work collaboratively not competitively. We are all INTERdependent. Not INdependent. So please - take the time to think of what happens elsewhere, and how what goes on in one country - your own, wherever that might be - affects those in other countries.
And for those here who still profess Christianity, there's another viewpoint on top of any cultural viewpoint.
See a bigger picture, folks.
Monte Madder on seeing a bigger picture and on news sources: Facebook
Monte Madder on seeing a bigger picture and on news sources: Facebook
Agree! News reports (from independent media) proclaim over 60,000 + innocent Palestinians have been murdered in Gaza by Israeli Military onslaught. Complete hypocrisy from a religion that touts "thou shalt not kill" as one of its commandments. Or else, "Israel" is not who many think they are.
I could say a lot about the Israel/Gaza situation, but that would start getting too political.
All I'm saying is : be prepared to take another look at whatever you hear and think: the news, scripture/theology, anything you're interested in - from a different angle, perspective.
I also like this guy's take on living the gospel: short, simple, and often very profound. Rev Joseph Yoo, Korean minister based in Texas Facebook
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I thought you folks might be interested in this woman's take on a lot of so-called Christian dogma. She calls herself an "exvangelist."
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Monte Mader | Deconstructed, former Alt-Right Christian Nationalist
Here's one of her snippets that popped into my Facebook feed, about 1 Cor 14 (women being silent in the church) - no way for this woman!!!
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Interesting bit about Cato. It seems the later scribe who added verses 34 and 35 was familiar with his popular injunction.
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We do know that Paul took elements of Greek philosophy and turned them on their heads. I don't know if a lot of churches teach that sort of stuff. I haven't heard it taught.
This woman really knows a lot of Bible and challenges so many assumptions and claims, especially about a white Jesus, white male privilege; and the oppression of weaker groups within community, specifically women, LGB communities, lower paid workers and those unable to work, and immigrants.
Have a look at some of her other stuff and see what you think.
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I think her challenges to those traditional assumptions have merit. I don’t disagree with her. Jesus being white is laughable.
I am presently convinced by the textual and manuscript evidence against those anti-women verses being authentically Pauline. Paul was a radical. Later scribes couldn’t handle it, so they added verses, even forged whole epistles, to MAKE Paul fit like a glove on their misogynistic hands.
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In terms of where this thread goes, I think the original purpose of Questioning Faith is to give unbelievers a place to express unbelief without interrupting genuine discussions about doctrine with predictable arguments that would literally derail every conversation.
This is middle ground. If you want to discuss whether her observations are Biblically correct, this is the right forum for that.
I agree that the apparently misogynistic elements of the epistles are probably not genuinely from Paul, and as long as "that wasn't in the original -- scratch it out" is fair game within doctrinal, I think it's fair game here.
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I'll try to watch as much of her stuff as I can... she's got alot there. It may be helpful for someone simply to mention a topic that she believes in and we can discuss it outright rather than watch the video...
"Legend of the Bell Witch" -- No problem believing it... evil spirits and related activities etc.
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The murder-suicide of Zack and Addie ... horrible and gruesome... he suffered from PTSD already ... THAT plus the drug abuse was enough to open up the trap door allowing the evil spirit(s) to enter ...
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American Mafia -- thorough and enjoyable to hear the history of the Mob. When she was in NY she lived in Astoria... so did I for a year or so...memories...
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Here's a video that popped up on my YouTube page, no doubt because I've been watching Monte's videos; thought I'd post it here:
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Expand your vision, people. The world is not the USA. And the vision presented by news sources in the USA is very biased, one way or the other, with insufficient apolitical reporting, and not much international reporting.
There are many countries outside USA - it's true!! It really is!! There are 50 countries in Europe, 54 in Africa, 48 in Asia, 12 in South America. 195 countries altogether, sharing this planetary space. That may mean 195 different cultural outlooks, problems, benefits. Life works much better if we can work collaboratively not competitively. We are all INTERdependent. Not INdependent. So please - take the time to think of what happens elsewhere, and how what goes on in one country - your own, wherever that might be - affects those in other countries.
And for those here who still profess Christianity, there's another viewpoint on top of any cultural viewpoint.
See a bigger picture, folks.
Monte Madder on seeing a bigger picture and on news sources: Facebook
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Agree! News reports (from independent media) proclaim over 60,000 + innocent Palestinians have been murdered in Gaza by Israeli Military onslaught. Complete hypocrisy from a religion that touts "thou shalt not kill" as one of its commandments. Or else, "Israel" is not who many think they are.
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I could say a lot about the Israel/Gaza situation, but that would start getting too political.
All I'm saying is : be prepared to take another look at whatever you hear and think: the news, scripture/theology, anything you're interested in - from a different angle, perspective.
I also like this guy's take on living the gospel: short, simple, and often very profound. Rev Joseph Yoo, Korean minister based in Texas Facebook
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Yeah. Thanks for noticing.
Oldies, come on, man. :)
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Sorry about that Raf! From now on, I will only comment on her non-political stuff as time allows--
Sure wish we had a little political corner...
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