It looks like as far as all practical details are concerned, YES. Donna's still living on welfare (vey money), and loy is supposedly out in the cold cruel world..
Imogene Allen was a tyrant and anti-people, making her ill-suited
to run the Bookstore-requiring her to interact with people all
the time. Her personality made work in that department MUCH
harder than it needed to be...
Amen and amen...she was a tyrant and controlling woman. I worked with a girl who waited MONTHS for her boyfriend (who worked in the Bookstore) to get permission from Emogene to propose marriage to her. Emogene specifically told him to wait until she gave him the go ahead. And then she conveniently forgot until she saw them together one day. After that, she actually called him into her office to give him permission to propose..... --> Now that's a damn disgrace.
I have read so much on this site that leads me to believe (without knowing any of them) that they were certainly bitten by a snake and a Poison One at that!
Their venom is second to the god of this earth marking their flock through distruction. I Thank God they have been without success to many.
Let's put this to rest and move on. RFR and DM are not lesbians. This is a fact and I personally know this to be true. They are as close as "sisters". That is the essence of their relationship and I would stake my life on it.
If anyone of you would like to continue to slander their names, you are worse than you accuse them of being. I suggest you find another scapegoat whose reputation you would like to destroy.
PS I am not a fan of either of these women, nor do I pretend to like either of them, just FYI.
I agree Lorna 100%. That is true of anyone though in the Way. I mean, they've made their choices, I'm an outsider now so it really does not matter. God sees all.
Interesting. This is the first post I've seen that is contrary to what others have said about their relationship. Why has this taken so long for someone to say so?
Well, I think we've all learned that the "love of God" can take various forms (not LOL). But I've heard it both ways from people, but who knows really? Does anyone suggest we call them and ask "hey are you gay?" Hmmm.
Deut 13:13: Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known
Lessee.. who fits THAT description?
I remember loy's presentation like it was yesterday.
1. Out from among YOU.. that fits.
2. Withdrawn the inhabitants- exhibit extraordinary leadership "ability".. that one fits
3. "Let us serve other gods".. sure got loy to serve HIMSELF.. and US- the bot, and leadership..
Interesting..
Perhaps the almighty was trying to tell loy himself something personal.. something going on right in his own back yard, before the roof really caved in..
I think things are far worse in that stinkhole than we first imagined..
Well, it would make sense.. other posters who knew rosie personally describe her as adept in lying, and basically as a conniving, vicious little snake..
I have read so much on this site that leads me to believe (without knowing any of them) that they were certainly bitten by a snake and a Poison One at that!
Their venom is second to the god of this earth marking their flock through distruction. I Thank God they have been without success to many.
2Ch 13:7 And there are gathered unto him vain men, the children of Belial, and have strengthened themselves against Rehoboam the son of Solomon, when Rehoboam was young and tenderhearted, and could not withstand them.
I dunno if loy entered his presidency in this fashion, but "they" sure turned him into a fainthearted, miserable SOB..
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Ham
It looks like as far as all practical details are concerned, YES. Donna's still living on welfare (vey money), and loy is supposedly out in the cold cruel world..
but legally, on paper, probably not.
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Jan
Where did you find that out about Donna? Isn't she supported by Rosie?
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Yep. That's kinda what I meant about "welfare". Vey welfare.
Before any take offense..
No bad aspersions to anyone who finds themselves forced to live on public assistance.
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I am of the opinion that God is in control.
That said, I believe He allowed the selections or chose them precisely of the resulting exodus.
Without them, the sham would continue and many of us would still be brainwashed.
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Amen and amen...she was a tyrant and controlling woman. I worked with a girl who waited MONTHS for her boyfriend (who worked in the Bookstore) to get permission from Emogene to propose marriage to her. Emogene specifically told him to wait until she gave him the go ahead. And then she conveniently forgot until she saw them together one day. After that, she actually called him into her office to give him permission to propose.....
--> Now that's a damn disgrace.
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But it makes sense, in an odd sort of way.
Perhaps Howard sought a personal favor from vic, in order to give Emogene something else to keep "busy" with, besides Howard.
Kind of like a "hobby".
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Jan
Seems very sad a lot of leaders wives became controlling if they were not already, in order to survive all this.
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I have read so much on this site that leads me to believe (without knowing any of them) that they were certainly bitten by a snake and a Poison One at that!
Their venom is second to the god of this earth marking their flock through distruction. I Thank God they have been without success to many.
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LornaDoone
Let's put this to rest and move on. RFR and DM are not lesbians. This is a fact and I personally know this to be true. They are as close as "sisters". That is the essence of their relationship and I would stake my life on it.
If anyone of you would like to continue to slander their names, you are worse than you accuse them of being. I suggest you find another scapegoat whose reputation you would like to destroy.
PS I am not a fan of either of these women, nor do I pretend to like either of them, just FYI.
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I agree Lorna 100%. That is true of anyone though in the Way. I mean, they've made their choices, I'm an outsider now so it really does not matter. God sees all.
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Interesting. This is the first post I've seen that is contrary to what others have said about their relationship. Why has this taken so long for someone to say so?
Is it because others assumed the worst?
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Well, I think we've all learned that the "love of God" can take various forms (not LOL). But I've heard it both ways from people, but who knows really? Does anyone suggest we call them and ask "hey are you gay?" Hmmm.
I say drop it.
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Well, this assumes a lot.. that they have a reputation worth saving to begin with.
A charge of lesbianism would be MILD compared to what's actually "on the books"..
Accusers of the brethren
Enablers of a SERIAL "rapist"..
dividers and destroyers of friends and families..
the list could go on and on.
Their "reputation" isn't worth a pile of dung.
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Lessee.. who fits THAT description?
I remember loy's presentation like it was yesterday.
1. Out from among YOU.. that fits.
2. Withdrawn the inhabitants- exhibit extraordinary leadership "ability".. that one fits
3. "Let us serve other gods".. sure got loy to serve HIMSELF.. and US- the bot, and leadership..
Interesting..
Perhaps the almighty was trying to tell loy himself something personal.. something going on right in his own back yard, before the roof really caved in..
I think things are far worse in that stinkhole than we first imagined..
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Plus the "result" of their "oversight" did for the ministry the same thing the sons of belial did for the tribe of Benjamin.. decimated it.
Oh well.. who knows..
just a thought.
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Well, it would make sense.. other posters who knew rosie personally describe her as adept in lying, and basically as a conniving, vicious little snake..
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ah yes.. and the "bribes carry devil spirits" thing..
How many "bribes" were marched through loy's office, motorcoach, and other locations?
I think he took his problems out on the wrong crowd.
I just wonder.. is it possible he was on to something, until vic put the freeze on the "seed" stuff?
If so, wasn't vic just so "spurtual".. "cmon, boy, time to get on with something else.."
Maybe it belongs in doctrinal, but I think the subject directly reflects on vic's judgement..
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Ham
Very descriptive comments, Sadie..
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I dunno if loy entered his presidency in this fashion, but "they" sure turned him into a fainthearted, miserable SOB..
Still doesn't excuse his actions.
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Good grief.. being accused of allegedly being lesbians is the LEAST of their problems.
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LornaDoone
Gee Hammer talking to yourself? Since we don't live with them we don't know their problems so who cares.
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