They referred to the apostles remaining in Jerusalem when the rest were scattered after Stephen's death. But they ignored Peter's travels outside Jerusalem, even though he appears to be the leader.
They also refer to James & the other elders being in Jerusalem when Paul came there for the Passover, apparently in a position of leadership.
Practically, I think that in the 21st century they need some kind of "headquarters" to function as an organization, if only for legal and administrative purposes.
Before The Way got very big "headquarters" was simply where Wierwille lived. That it was on a farm with lots of open land, suitable for building, made it easier to expand than had they been in an apartment in Payne or Van Wert.
I think it is a question of needs and wants. Some groups use a bare minimun of income to fund administration costs, others eat up any and all funding and use little for the work at hand which sometimes leads to indictments and headlines.
A group like derway, providing as they do a minimum of member support should be quite capable of running itself with a staff of at most 20 people for the 5000 or so active members (who are doing most of the work for free anyways).
I suspect most of derways overhead goes towards maintaining an infrastructure that isn't needed anymore.
Jesus Christ is the head of the body of Christ, so headquarters would be located at the right hand of God. Do not pass Highway 29, do not pass Wierwille Road, go directly to the right hand of God.
Well, it's got to be greed. Their heads already have a place - their butz, so that need's been met. Having additional quarters would fall in to the greed category.
I think it is interesting that "cults" tend to borrow from the biblical administrative things in the book of acts, in a desperate need to coorelate there activities. Of course the fisherman disciples were anything but administrators so it becomes a lame attempt to coorelate the two.
Jesus didn't have a headquarters and he never talked about needing or wanting their to be one. Their twisting and private interpretation of the scriptures doesn't cut it for me. They should have stuck with the twigs being self-governing and independent.
I'm with Herbiejuan... It's all about habit and image.
For a group who prided themselves on not being a slave to tradition, but re-evaluating their needs every year, they are caught up in the idea of needing HQ. It is the very image of what twi stands for in the minds of their followers. It doesn't matter that its too big, too much work to keep up, never gets used anymore... they wouldn't dream of letting it go.
Thanks. I knew it was a typo but couldn't guess which word Sky meant. I don't know that I've seen that word used in that fashion. Oh, well, I get what is being said.
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Do the offshoots have hq's? If so, do they have the same staff to member ratio?
Think of how much they could add to their $40 million coffers if they didn't employ so many people. Heck, they might be able to afford to keep their promises to take care of people if they did that..... NAW....It'll never happen...
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Roy, they said hq was in Jerusalem. They used some scriptures in Acts that I can't remember off the top of my head, but I'll see what I can find.
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They referred to the apostles remaining in Jerusalem when the rest were scattered after Stephen's death. But they ignored Peter's travels outside Jerusalem, even though he appears to be the leader.
They also refer to James & the other elders being in Jerusalem when Paul came there for the Passover, apparently in a position of leadership.
Practically, I think that in the 21st century they need some kind of "headquarters" to function as an organization, if only for legal and administrative purposes.
Before The Way got very big "headquarters" was simply where Wierwille lived. That it was on a farm with lots of open land, suitable for building, made it easier to expand than had they been in an apartment in Payne or Van Wert.
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I agree with Oak. Just having a central administrative office is not necessarily a sign of evil.
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I think it is a question of needs and wants. Some groups use a bare minimun of income to fund administration costs, others eat up any and all funding and use little for the work at hand which sometimes leads to indictments and headlines.
A group like derway, providing as they do a minimum of member support should be quite capable of running itself with a staff of at most 20 people for the 5000 or so active members (who are doing most of the work for free anyways).
I suspect most of derways overhead goes towards maintaining an infrastructure that isn't needed anymore.
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Jesus Christ is the head of the body of Christ, so headquarters would be located at the right hand of God. Do not pass Highway 29, do not pass Wierwille Road, go directly to the right hand of God.
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Well, it's got to be greed. Their heads already have a place - their butz, so that need's been met. Having additional quarters would fall in to the greed category.
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oak:
I think it is interesting that "cults" tend to borrow from the biblical administrative things in the book of acts, in a desperate need to coorelate there activities. Of course the fisherman disciples were anything but administrators so it becomes a lame attempt to coorelate the two.
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Sky,
What is "coorelate?"
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Jesus didn't have a headquarters and he never talked about needing or wanting their to be one. Their twisting and private interpretation of the scriptures doesn't cut it for me. They should have stuck with the twigs being self-governing and independent.
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JT - from dictionary.com
cor·re·late ( P ) Pronunciation Key (k?t, kr-)
To put or bring into causal, complementary, parallel, or reciprocal relation.
To establish or demonstrate as having a correlation: correlated drug abuse and crime.
To have reciprocal or mutual relations; to be mutually related.
v. intr.
To be related by a correlation.
adj. (-lt, -lt)
Related by a correlation, especially having corresponding characteristics.
Doctrine and worship correlate as theory and practice. --Tylor.
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God first
God loves all of yall
thanks so much for I have been reading thinking about things
with love and an holy kiss Roy
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I'm with Herbiejuan... It's all about habit and image.
For a group who prided themselves on not being a slave to tradition, but re-evaluating their needs every year, they are caught up in the idea of needing HQ. It is the very image of what twi stands for in the minds of their followers. It doesn't matter that its too big, too much work to keep up, never gets used anymore... they wouldn't dream of letting it go.
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Belle,
Thanks. I knew it was a typo but couldn't guess which word Sky meant. I don't know that I've seen that word used in that fashion. Oh, well, I get what is being said.
JT
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www.dictionary.com is my friend! I won't tell anyone how many times a day I have to use it.
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Do the offshoots have hq's? If so, do they have the same staff to member ratio?
Think of how much they could add to their $40 million coffers if they didn't employ so many people. Heck, they might be able to afford to keep their promises to take care of people if they did that..... NAW....It'll never happen...
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