I'm sure if we dug a little, we'd find ways that John Henry isn't the Second Coming. The Sox have certainly put together a winning formula,and are managed well, but I can assure you that owners are owners. I'm not sure they're not jeopardizing Schilling's arm for life when his own doctor is saying that surgery is the only answer. I forget the name of the Padres pitcher whose arm literally fell off in mid pitch in the late 80's, but I wonder if it's worth it to try to salvage a few more starts off an old arm.
Probably the best way I can think of that John Henry has done his thing (as far as I know) is that he lets his GM do his thing and doesn't interfere.
There's an independent league team in Ft Worth, The Cats, that is going to get my money this year... nice little ballpark on the northside of town with a lot of history... and the tickets are relatively cheap... (I've said before that I really like minor league ball better)... the stRangers have a AA team in far north Dallas but it doesn't feel like a minor league experience... there was another team that wanted to start up in Grand Prairie, in the independent league as well, that would have been between Dallas and Arlington... but the stRangers flexed their considerable muscle and put made the folks go elsewhere...
THE CATS used to be a farm club of the Dodger organization... the link will take you to their site to the history page... just a nice little ballpark (in it's second incarnation) that I used to go to when I was a mere wick of a lad before the D/FW Spurs (minor league) and then stRangers took over the area...
Probably the best way I can think of that John Henry has done his thing (as far as I know) is that he lets his GM do his thing and doesn't interfere.
There's an independent league team in Ft Worth, The Cats, that is going to get my money this year... nice little ballpark on the northside of town with a lot of history... and the tickets are relatively cheap... (I've said before that I really like minor league ball better)... the stRangers have a AA team in far north Dallas but it doesn't feel like a minor league experience... there was another team that wanted to start up in Grand Prairie, in the independent league as well, that would have been between Dallas and Arlington... but the stRangers flexed their considerable muscle and put made the folks go elsewhere...
THE CATS used to be a farm club of the Dodger organization... the link will take you to their site to the history page... just a nice little ballpark (in it's second incarnation) that I used to go to when I was a mere wick of a lad before the D/FW Spurs (minor league) and then stRangers took over the area...
Well, Henry is chiming in, saying he believes rehab is the best treatment-like he knows. That sounds like a form of interference to me-very Steinbrenner -like actually.
(Dravecky was playing for the SF Giants that season)
The following season, a cancerous desmoid tumor was found in Dravecky's pitching arm. He underwent surgery on October 7, 1988, removing half of the deltoid muscle in his pitching arm and freezing the humerus bone in an effort to eliminate all of the cancerous cells. By July 1989, he was pitching in the minors, and on August 10, he made a highly publicized return to the major leagues, pitching 8 innings and defeating Cincinnati 4-3. In his following start five days later against the Expos, Dravecky pitched three no-hit innings, but in the fifth inning, he felt a tingling sensation in his arm. In the sixth inning he started off shaky, allowing a home run to the lead off batter and then hitting the second batter. Then, on his first pitch to Tim Raines, his humerus bone snapped, ending his career.
To see a pitcher break his arm with a loud cracking sound while doing something as ordinary as throwing a pitch, then fall to the ground rolling in agonizing pain, was shocking, unusual, and upsetting, especially for those who had followed his touching story. The pitch was replayed on television repeatedly over the following days.
The Giants won the National League pennant in 1989, and in the post-game celebration, Dravecky's arm was broken a second time by Kevin Mitchell and Kelly Downs. A doctor examining Dravecky's x-rays noticed a mass in his arm. Cancer had returned. Eighteen days later, Dravecky retired from baseball, aged 33, leaving a 64-57 record with 558 strikeouts and a 3.13 ERA in 1,062.2 innings. He won the 1989 Willie Mac Award honoring his spirit and leadership.
good luck with the Cats, Id give them my money and support too Tom.
As far as Henry I never said he was perfect, he is darn good though. The RS medical staff has been very good over the last few years especially handling pitchers. They took Tim Wakefield off the World Series roster, even though he had won 17 games rather than risk a career threatening injury with him (and he is well into his 40's) they gave Matt Clement an entire year off with pay, Jon Lester a year to recover from cancer. Pedro was famous for never going beyond 6 or 7 and then taking a built in 'vacation' after memorial day for a 3 or 4 weeks every year.
There was a difference of medical opinions which happens all the time, Im sure they have some pretty top docs on it, and I doubt he'll pitch, be jeopoardized or his arm will fall off ala Koufax with the 60's Dodgers, or Yankee staffs under Billy Martin
I think I just might take the Cats up on one of their offers... they have a 5 game package for $50... I think I'm gonna get 3 or 4 and we'll have a nice summer...
...speaking of Billy Martin, I liked his autobiography "Number 1" as well...
Go Cats!...Minor League baseball is pretty cool, actually...Speaking of pitchers arms falling off, I was watching the game on ESPN last year when Glavine won his 300th...It got me thinking, and I could be wrong, but it seems like there's actually been a proportionate increase in 300 game winners since the 5-man rotation...
Got my tickets for the Dodgers-Sox Coliseum game today. Pretty nice seats behind first base, about half way up the bowl.
This should be some event, and I have to think they'll want Koufax throwing out the first pitch. I'll be taking pictures and if I can figure out how to display them here, I will. I'll try to get shots that show the weird dimensions, and some Sox shots just for Mstar.
It will also be a rare game for me to bring a radio to listen to Vin broadcast. Maybe I can find a retro transistor type.
Go Cats!...Minor League baseball is pretty cool, actually...Speaking of pitchers arms falling off, I was watching the game on ESPN last year when Glavine won his 300th...It got me thinking, and I could be wrong, but it seems like there's actually been a proportionate increase in 300 game winners since the 5-man rotation...
I know what you mean simon... I was thinking the number of 300 game winners has increased since that old Atlanta rotation has aged to this point...!
Good visual on the transistor radio, i hadnt thought of those in awhile--sitting in the bleachers with the ancient pre earbuds that went halfway down your earcanal listening to Ned Martin was a part of the 1960's for me..seems like a perfect thing to do for a retro game
Sony's got one HERE for $10.00, if you really want to go retro I bet you could find one of the twirly dial ones on ebay or somewhere.
Im looking forward to the pictures when they come...
It got me thinking, and I could be wrong, but it seems like there's actually been a proportionate increase in 300 game winners since the 5-man rotation
without checking Id guess youre probably right, but I gotta wonder, with all the specialists now, if we'll ever see another one.
.............
My tickets to the series at Camden Yards came the other day --- Im gettin a pretty good stack together---I'll have to eat at Boog Powells while I am there
If anyone wants to visit here in August we'll do one of the home series... I'm sure there will be plenty of tickets available.
If you'd like to preview your experience just move your TV into a DRY sauna that's cranked up pretty high and sit there for three hours while wearing all of your clothes.
Just give me a couple of weeks notice so's I can get good seats!
If anyone wants to visit here in August we'll do one of the home series... I'm sure there will be plenty of tickets available.
If you'd like to preview your experience just move your TV into a DRY sauna that's cranked up pretty high and sit there for three hours while wearing all of your clothes.
Just give me a couple of weeks notice so's I can get good seats!
I KNOW what that's like... I've been to football games at Sun Devil Stadium... in AUGUST. Even a night game is too hot.
If anyone wants the heat, but A/C for the stadium experience watching baseball, there's always Chase Field (formerly known as "The BOB").
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why would a-rod say he would love it if his girls married someone like andy pettit
why would a-rod say he would love it if his girls married someone like andy pettit
It was a rather awkward way of 'supporting' Pettite. That despite the drug thing, he's a great guy in Arod's book. From what I know of Pettite, I'd agree with that .
It's possible the scores of players that dodged the bullet on the narrow Mitchell report agree also.
i finally saw the video-It was a little awkward, Hwy s right he was trying to show his support for Pettitte, It came out pretty weird sounding, Hes good at alot of things-- speaking to the media isnt necessarily one of them.
We got 10 more inches of snow yesterday---this is depressing--at least there are some spring training workouts to watch on the tube
I hope you keep us up to date on the exploits of number one son--what position is he playing this year?
Strange story of the day:
The New York Times says that Pedro Martinez occasionally throws pitches with his eyes closed because it “has helped him develop a consistent arm angle and release point.”
I hope you keep us up to date on the exploits of number one son--what position is he playing this year?
you know what's really something ? i gave him a real wooden bat on his FIRST birthday, and carved in it, it says:
"Mac #1 Son"
it's mounted on the wall in his bedroom
Strange story of the day:
The New York Times says that Pedro Martinez occasionally throws pitches with his eyes closed because it “has helped him develop a consistent arm angle and release point.”
what do you make of that mstar ? have you seen other pitchers closing their eyes ?
what do you make of that mstar ? have you seen other pitchers closing their eyes ?
Thankfully not while I am batting i havent
I suppose its some type of Pedro Martinez meditation thingy--I wouldnt get in the batters box if he was doing that--Ive never seen a pitcher do that
The Red Sox do have a guy from Japan, Hideki Okajima, who has an odd pitching motion and looks at the ground as he releases the pitch --very strange looking --but he has great control and is good with it...that is the closest Ive seen
The Dodgers just announced they're selling 25000 more tickets for the Coliseum game. Since there are no more seats right now, that means most of them are standing room only-out in right field behind the makeshift fence I wish wasn't there, and miles away beyond right field.
This will make a crowd of 115000, the largest ever to watch a ball game. I'm holding back on the beer in the hope that I don't have to use the facilities.
The LA Times had a picture of the field today, and I swear there is no left field. The best part of the day may be batting practice. Rumor has it that Wally Moon (of the famous 'Moon-shots' back in the Coliseum days) will be on hand, and just may take some swings himself !
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I'm sure if we dug a little, we'd find ways that John Henry isn't the Second Coming. The Sox have certainly put together a winning formula,and are managed well, but I can assure you that owners are owners. I'm not sure they're not jeopardizing Schilling's arm for life when his own doctor is saying that surgery is the only answer. I forget the name of the Padres pitcher whose arm literally fell off in mid pitch in the late 80's, but I wonder if it's worth it to try to salvage a few more starts off an old arm.
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Probably the best way I can think of that John Henry has done his thing (as far as I know) is that he lets his GM do his thing and doesn't interfere.
There's an independent league team in Ft Worth, The Cats, that is going to get my money this year... nice little ballpark on the northside of town with a lot of history... and the tickets are relatively cheap... (I've said before that I really like minor league ball better)... the stRangers have a AA team in far north Dallas but it doesn't feel like a minor league experience... there was another team that wanted to start up in Grand Prairie, in the independent league as well, that would have been between Dallas and Arlington... but the stRangers flexed their considerable muscle and put made the folks go elsewhere...
THE CATS used to be a farm club of the Dodger organization... the link will take you to their site to the history page... just a nice little ballpark (in it's second incarnation) that I used to go to when I was a mere wick of a lad before the D/FW Spurs (minor league) and then stRangers took over the area...
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Well, Henry is chiming in, saying he believes rehab is the best treatment-like he knows. That sounds like a form of interference to me-very Steinbrenner -like actually.
Now the Cats-that looks like fun !
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(Dravecky was playing for the SF Giants that season)
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good luck with the Cats, Id give them my money and support too Tom.
As far as Henry I never said he was perfect, he is darn good though. The RS medical staff has been very good over the last few years especially handling pitchers. They took Tim Wakefield off the World Series roster, even though he had won 17 games rather than risk a career threatening injury with him (and he is well into his 40's) they gave Matt Clement an entire year off with pay, Jon Lester a year to recover from cancer. Pedro was famous for never going beyond 6 or 7 and then taking a built in 'vacation' after memorial day for a 3 or 4 weeks every year.
There was a difference of medical opinions which happens all the time, Im sure they have some pretty top docs on it, and I doubt he'll pitch, be jeopoardized or his arm will fall off ala Koufax with the 60's Dodgers, or Yankee staffs under Billy Martin
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I think I just might take the Cats up on one of their offers... they have a 5 game package for $50... I think I'm gonna get 3 or 4 and we'll have a nice summer...
...speaking of Billy Martin, I liked his autobiography "Number 1" as well...
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Go Cats!...Minor League baseball is pretty cool, actually...Speaking of pitchers arms falling off, I was watching the game on ESPN last year when Glavine won his 300th...It got me thinking, and I could be wrong, but it seems like there's actually been a proportionate increase in 300 game winners since the 5-man rotation...
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Got my tickets for the Dodgers-Sox Coliseum game today. Pretty nice seats behind first base, about half way up the bowl.
This should be some event, and I have to think they'll want Koufax throwing out the first pitch. I'll be taking pictures and if I can figure out how to display them here, I will. I'll try to get shots that show the weird dimensions, and some Sox shots just for Mstar.
It will also be a rare game for me to bring a radio to listen to Vin broadcast. Maybe I can find a retro transistor type.
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I know what you mean simon... I was thinking the number of 300 game winners has increased since that old Atlanta rotation has aged to this point...!
Hiway, we will want pics!
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Good visual on the transistor radio, i hadnt thought of those in awhile--sitting in the bleachers with the ancient pre earbuds that went halfway down your earcanal listening to Ned Martin was a part of the 1960's for me..seems like a perfect thing to do for a retro game
Sony's got one HERE for $10.00,
if you really want to go retro I bet you could find one of the twirly dial ones on ebay or somewhere.
Im looking forward to the pictures when they come...
without checking Id guess youre probably right, but I gotta wonder, with all the specialists now, if we'll ever see another one.
.............
My tickets to the series at Camden Yards came the other day --- Im gettin a pretty good stack together---I'll have to eat at Boog Powells while I am there
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If anyone wants to visit here in August we'll do one of the home series... I'm sure there will be plenty of tickets available.
If you'd like to preview your experience just move your TV into a DRY sauna that's cranked up pretty high and sit there for three hours while wearing all of your clothes.
Just give me a couple of weeks notice so's I can get good seats!
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why would a-rod say he would love it if his girls married someone like andy pettit
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I KNOW what that's like... I've been to football games at Sun Devil Stadium... in AUGUST. Even a night game is too hot.
If anyone wants the heat, but A/C for the stadium experience watching baseball, there's always Chase Field (formerly known as "The BOB").
'Cause he's RICH?
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It was a rather awkward way of 'supporting' Pettite. That despite the drug thing, he's a great guy in Arod's book. From what I know of Pettite, I'd agree with that .
It's possible the scores of players that dodged the bullet on the narrow Mitchell report agree also.
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thank you hw29
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i finally saw the video-It was a little awkward, Hwy s right he was trying to show his support for Pettitte, It came out pretty weird sounding, Hes good at alot of things-- speaking to the media isnt necessarily one of them.
We got 10 more inches of snow yesterday---this is depressing--at least there are some spring training workouts to watch on the tube
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just stopped in because i wanted to see people i love
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Love you too!!
I hope you keep us up to date on the exploits of number one son--what position is he playing this year?
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The New York Times says that Pedro Martinez occasionally throws pitches with his eyes closed because it “has helped him develop a consistent arm angle and release point.”
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Play BALL!
First pitch of the 2008 Cactus League season takes play in about 25 minutes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Awesome! you had baseball today?
I have to wait until tomorrow My guys had a lunch date this afternoon...
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Cactus League schedule, Feb 27
I haven't found any scores yet, however. I guess the reporters need warming up also!
Cactus scores and standings
Looks like Colorado and Texas won their games today.
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"Mac #1 Son"
it's mounted on the wall in his bedroom
what do you make of that mstar ? have you seen other pitchers closing their eyes ?
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Thankfully not while I am batting i havent
I suppose its some type of Pedro Martinez meditation thingy--I wouldnt get in the batters box if he was doing that--Ive never seen a pitcher do that
The Red Sox do have a guy from Japan, Hideki Okajima, who has an odd pitching motion and looks at the ground as he releases the pitch --very strange looking --but he has great control and is good with it...that is the closest Ive seen
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The Dodgers just announced they're selling 25000 more tickets for the Coliseum game. Since there are no more seats right now, that means most of them are standing room only-out in right field behind the makeshift fence I wish wasn't there, and miles away beyond right field.
This will make a crowd of 115000, the largest ever to watch a ball game. I'm holding back on the beer in the hope that I don't have to use the facilities.
The LA Times had a picture of the field today, and I swear there is no left field. The best part of the day may be batting practice. Rumor has it that Wally Moon (of the famous 'Moon-shots' back in the Coliseum days) will be on hand, and just may take some swings himself !
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