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Their being nice folks, to me, is beside the point. I'll bet they really are very nice, just as many people were when I was involved back the day. I hope and think I was "nice" too but I was totally misled, deceived, and gaslighted by VPW regarding himself, the Bible, and his organization. So in my opinion, being nice does not mean the BOT folks are not misled or worse, that they are not in denial of facts that would make most nice people shudder. In Whiteside's book they are reprinting, if you are clear-eyed when reading it, you can't miss VPW's narcissism, his conman fast-talk, etc. But I suppose when you're still loyal to the image he wanted people to buy into, you can't be so clear-eyed. I sure bought into what's in that book when it was first published in 1971 when I was in the Corps. The questions that come to mind for the current BOT are many, but here are just two: 1. How do they explain why VPW was a great man of God, appointed by God (as Way leaders still assert) given the many women he abused, for example? I realize there is only one woman who put that in writing, in a book called Losing The Way (which is out of print now) but I assure you I personally know the names of many women who were in his sex ring, but they told me in confidence, so I am not at liberty to say their names here. Some have come out on social media, I think. 2. How do they explain why they sell VPW's plagirized materials as if those books and teachings originated with him? For instance the holy spirit book he copied almost word for word from J. E. Stiles book on that subject, as well as the book How to Enjoy the Bible by Bullinger. (These facts have been shown over and over from many sources. One good source besides my own book, Undertow, is John Juedes on YouTube for instance this video about the four crucified with Christ teaching that VPW took from Bullinger. The number four is arrived at by a fundamentalist approach to the Bible, a way of harmonizing the gospels that ignores the facts about each gospel's purpose, historical background and the men who wrote each one. For what it's worth, here you go:

Nice use of the inverted question mark, but no. Earlier movie. "To love is to suffer. To avoid suffering one must not love. But then one suffers from not loving. Therefore, to love is to suffer; not to love is to suffer; to suffer is to suffer. To be happy is to love. To be happy, then, is to suffer, but suffering makes one unhappy. Therefore, to be unhappy, one must love or love to suffer or suffer from too much happiness. I hope you're getting this down." "You are the greatest lover I've ever had." "Well, I practice a lot when I'm alone." "Oh don't, Boris, please. Sex without love is an empty experience." "Yes, but as empty experiences go, it's one of the best." "So who is to say what is moral?" "Morality is subjective." "Subjectivity is objective." "Moral notions imply attributes to substances which exist only in relational duality." "Not as an essential extension of ontological existence." "Can we not talk about sex so much?" George

Teddy Roosevelt was our youngest president, but I don't know anything about his wife. George

Now THIS one I've heard before. Not quite coming to me, though. George

WordWolf is up here too.

¿Don Juan de Marco

No. She wasn't one of the early first ladies. After Lincoln.

A different song then. His clothes are dirty but his, his hands are clean And you're the best thing that hes ever seen

Of course... what I do with these partial silver coins is go to a local coin dealer or coin show and cash them in for current silver melt value at the time.

Coins in circulated condition have significantly reduced value as collectables.

Go to bank(s) where you have an account, and ask for Kennedy Half Dollars. They may have some as people bring them in all the time, thinking they are only worth 50 cents. Maybe they are, but maybe they aren't. Employees usually are silent but will offer what they have in stock and sometimes you may get back a variety of coins containing valuable silver. Make sure to ask if there's any around from ALL tellers in the bank because one teller may have some while another may not. These are the current melt values as of September 19, 2025: 1964 Kennedy Half Dollar (90% silver): $15.50 1965-70 Kennedy Half Dollar (40% silver): $6.32 1971-2001: $0.50

WordWolf recently alerted us to the potential dangers of AI, so I thought it'd be appropriate to start a thread on everything about AI with WordWolf's gracious help. It's here and vibrant. This Google video popped up on my screen only this morning:

This is how most of our ladies grew up At the country club dances They learned how to handle the boys Gently but firmly They learned to say no There were four more young men Who were waiting in the color and the noise.

No.

Not necessarily a problem, if it's been steady there. Has it been creeping up? George

Dolly Madison? George

Eye see what you did there.

No, not Jackie. But Jackie was really young, too. She was 24. The First Lady in question was 21. I think you would have to know the story behind this trivia to have any real idea of just who this would be. Another clue. In her day, this first Lady, was the equivalent of what Jackie Kennedy was in her day in terms of setting trends that the American public just couldn't get enough of.

I looked for a patron saint of eyeballs. Closest I found is St. Lucy. https://mycatholic.life/saints/saints-of-the-liturgical-year/13-december-saint-lucy-of-syracuse-virgin-and-martyr--memorial/ “Saint Lucy is often depicted in sacred art holding her eyes because much later legends state that either the guards gouged her eyes out as torture, or that she gouged her own eyes out so that her suitor would no longer be tempted by their beauty.” I suppose, if one had say, ocular melanoma, one could pray to St. Lucy for healing.

What ever happened to the Transylvania Twist?

Stayed Too Long, Thank you for starting this thread, it's well worth a thorough examination.

One might opine that the youngest Presidents had the youngest First Ladies. Hillary Clinton, Laura Bush, and Michelle Obama come to mind, but none of them were THAT young. Of course, an older President might have married someone much younger than himself. Still, I'll try Jackie Kennedy? George

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I don't think I know that one waysider.