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You mean, like when Jesus overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and chased away the folk that made the temple big business? Jesus walked with God (and, technically, with Jesus) and he was vocal about some of the crimes done on his watch.

If you're so motivated, please send $20 via the donate button. If you're not, no one is going to bust any part of you over it. But, yes, it costs money, and donations are cheerfully accepted and rarely solicited. BTW, I've been to groups where I was never pushed for donations. Of all things, I was involved for a time with a Catholic church group that never hit me up for donations....although we once did a project to feed homeless, and we did it out-of-pocket. Nobody asked me to, but I opened my pocket.... and in that instance, it actually made a big difference.

In my opinion, The Way is not a reformation of the church, first century or otherwise. It's the remnants of a devious MLM scam, built on lies and plagiarism. I'm not bitter, just stating the factual reality. Not only is the vast majority of the material content plagiarized, it's filled with inaccurate assertions, such as "the four crucified", the so-called "law of believing", roosters that crowed differently 2,000 years ago, special bar mitzvas for illegitimate boys, inerrancy of scripture, bogus tithing requirements and on and on and on. The Way is and was a lot of things. A reformation of the church is not one of them.

I mentioned this man before. The Way is part of a further reformation of the church, IMO. Anybody want to see the miracles, again?

I wonder if TWI today still “teaches” crowing cocks had different habit patterns in “Bible times.”

Time will tell. However, Judge not, lest you be judged. Galatians 5:21-23 New International Version 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

Respectfully sir, Evangelicals make up 25% of the American populace. Zionism dies without theology. As I've said before, I do plenty of that elsewhere. I don't need it here. Hopefully more are interested in the Way as it is today. That's why I started the thread.

Uh, yeah. I'm trying to be hands off but you guys are making this difficult. Candace Owens? There is NO reason to discuss her outside politics. Zionism is a political discussion by definition. You're giving us very little wiggle room here. The topic of this thread is TWI, present tense. Keep it focused. Next political comment gets deleted without warning.

Just a reminder: There is no shortage of on-line venues for discussing politics.

That's true, I suppose, though as Human points out, it would be hard to find a telecast of bridge. Let's modify the clue: What do baseball, bridge, golf, Formula One racing, and tennis have in common? Football, soccer, and basketball do NOT have the same thing in common. Interestingly, curling and darts DO. George

Hogan's Heroes "Once upon a time, there were three little girls who went to the police academy; and they were each assigned very hazardous duties. But I took them away from all that and now they work for me." George

California Girls "I thought love was only true in fairy tales." George

Zionism is a passionate topic with me. It makes me angry we even have to discuss it. People can be so dense. 'Duh, the Jews, God's chosen people. Israel! That's in the Bible.' It just depends on who wants it. I don't personally need it. There are people more courageous than me on X.

I think we may be able to discuss him and his message if we keep it about biblical matters and not political. Biblical would be 'old covenant' vs. 'new covenant'. etc. etc. Admittedly, Baldwin does talk politics a lot during his sermons.. so it will have to be the moderator call to allow it or not. Whatever Raf decides is ok with me. Thx.

I do. And my rebound into Catholicism helps me to examine and critique my steps all the more.

Sorry to hear that... well, we know now there's abundant life outside of TWI. Thank you for posting and please continue!

Thank you. Thought maybe it was the guy who wanted me to know Chuck Baldwin is a verboten political figure. So, who here is Christian? Anyone wanna get saved?

"Like, who hosts this board? Should I send $20?" To answer your first question: Pawtucket hosts this board. As to your second question: You can send whatever you like or send nothing at all. There's a donate button at the top. It's a system that seems to have worked for the past 25 years.

No problem. No one else wants to do these jobs.

That's why they call you the Wordwolf. Interesting whatever you must share in a community that needs to differentiate agnosticism from satanism. They are different.. (so, what is it? Two or four?) Exegesis, am I using that right? Nice breakdown of the related verses in chapter six. Going back to this "church", have you noticed that churches largely try to expand our generosity by encouraging us to give right here into this offering plate? Right here. Make your checks payable to Crossville Church of His Holiness. Do it now. Yours is the first exegesis of Luke 6:30 I've heard. So, let's talk about the beggars on the street corner. Let's talk about all the merchants collecting money for charities. Let's talk about going deaf and tensing up. We could also talk about giving so as to not look stingy. Giving out of guilt. Giving for a show. In my experiences "churches" don't do all that. Put your tithes in the bucket and we'll sit around in the back room and divvy them up. Trust us. Sorry, been bludgeoned in offerings before. I've been in churches where if you did not harden your heart to the preacher you couldn't take it. Idk, idk, idk. I just know I've developed a method that has enabled me to navigate those waters. If somebody reads this and is truly living a financially abundant life and has real insight into my brokenness I'd like to hear it. The places where we assemble have light bills. The people who organize our meetings gotta feed their kids. It's right to be happy to chip in. Like, who hosts this board? Should I send $20?

I'll start with JCS. I can't touch that. I don't want to touch that. I don't know about all that. Somehow, I've got to try not to offend. I got exposed to all this "trauma informed" lingo in the IHOPKC fallout. I'm sorry, I learned enough not to trample on things I don't understand. I don't. OTOH, I would have hoped you have seen I've been around some. What's readily apparent to me is I haven't been beaten or imprisoned. I never made it out of the minor league and don't really want to. I will however bridge the chasm if I have the opportunity. I'll meet current Wayfers and befriend them. I don't have any other agenda than love for the brethren. Why do I suddenly feel like an astronaut on a launch pad not knowing what he's getting into? I don't know what I'm getting into...!? Maybe I'm a missionary to some African cannibals!? Regardless, I'm down. THIS, I believe is what Jesus would do.

I don't know if I've ever seen bridge on TV? Movies, yeah. But not TV.

"I see nothing!! I hear nothing!!! I see nothing"!!!

Long Tall Sally "Well, east coast girls are hip I really dig those styles they wear"

Perhaps you are unfamiliar with trauma, PTSD or the sting of being ripped off. I was about to agree with you until you leaned on the cult trope of "crying about decades old offenses". These offenses include rape, sir. They include taking my teenage friends for abortions financed by a handful of money dipped from a free bucket of cash called "tithes". Perhaps giving your entire childhood to a movement that turned out to be a fraud run by grifters and perverts, stings a little. "Crying" isn.t weakness. It is a basic human emotions. If you don't cry while you're recovering from a literal attack on everything you are and everything you have, then you're the one with the problem. And by the way, I don't see anyone "crying" in the replies to your post. I see people who learned the hard way and are trying to warn you that these offenses, not all of which are "decades" old, hurt people. People still haven't recovered. Some people died, MAN. Do you have any idea the number of people who have died as a direct result of trauma from this cult? I have friends who died in accidents and were blamed for not being holy enough. It's gross. There is also no rule that says if you're "crying" about the way's literal crimes, that means that we aren't walking with Jesus. That is a fallacy. Both things can be true. You can walk with Jesus and be wise to The Way's bullcrap. And when we meet a person who says they went to HQ and everyone was so nice, we want you to know that trusting in this group will deceive you and you might not even know it's happening. If you want to stick your hand on the burner to see if fire is really hot, go ahead. You've been warned. But don't pretend that we are all crying. We were trying to warn you.