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  1. The supposed Way Tree “revelation” was never plagiarized from anywhere in the Bible. It was plagiarized almost directly (surprise, surprise, surprise!) from The AA Book released in 1937 to accompany the “Big Book” which had been published in 1935. The title of that book is “The 12 Traditions of Alcoholics Anonymous”. I have posted the entire text of the 12 traditions somewhere here on the GSC along with a number of other posts on this topic if anyone is interested. The only reason there are ANY “scripture references” cherrypicked from the KJV to “validate” or “substantiate” anything close to the effective non-profit business structure Dr. Bob and Bill designed for GENUINE SERVICE to humanity, not a self-serving MLM scam, is that is what dic used to verify “his own” business structure. So ya find an Exodus 18, or the Psalm about a tree planted by the waters, or the Jesus tree parables from the Gospels. Wierwille’s ENTIRE text for his corpse teachings on Acts, relied upon the annotations, and the “literary structure” Of Acts as arranged by Bullinger, into the “8 Great Sections Of The Book Of Acts” based upon, “The 8 Great Statements in the Book Of Acts”, in Bullinger’s Companion Bible as well as several of its appendices. It provides basically the entire source of da forehead’s “book” on “Rise and Expansion” along with wierwille PI and “guidance”, as well as the same bullshit (only worse) “revelations”, “guidance” and “thus saith the Lord” bluster the moron could muster. LOL! So, any discussion of how or where or when, the way bush “revelation” came upon dictor paul before he got his first Companion Bible and How To Enjoy The Bible from ole Doc Higgins in Chicago in 1955, is basically mute. There was NEVER ANY such revelation in the Bible or anywhere else outside wierwille’s delusional, severely ill mind. Have a nice night!
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  2. vpw covered his tracks nicely at the time. BGL was a legit Christian who didn't "think evil" of other Christians (and was a Canadian and not, say, a paranoid NY'er who might double-check things.) vpw found out about Leonard's class, and-according to vpw- found out one was in progress and he couldn't join it since it had already started. He proceeded directly there and basically parked himself until BG relented and let him join. So, vpw "graduated" that class. He took it again a few months later, along with a handful of other people, including Mrs W. vpw was considered a "grad" who was retaking it. Then, a few months later, vpw asked Leonard to ok him running Leonard's class once, locally. Leonard agreed. vpw sent Leonard a photo of the grads of "Leonard's" class. What vpw told all the students was that this was vpw's class on "Receiving the Holy Spirit Today". (No syllabus or diagrams, this was a few months later.) All the people who had taken Leonard's class were already considered "GRADS" of THIS class by vpw himself. That's because it was the same class, just taught by someone else. Later, vpw added Bullinger and Stiles and split the class into 3 different classes that people had to pay for. Some time later, Leonard found out vpw continued to teach Leonard's material AS HIS OWN. BTW, a poster here once took Leonard's class while Leonard was teaching it. He also looked through Leonard's photo album of his classes, and found the photo vpw sent him. He got Leonard's side of things from him at the time. vpw's claims were documented in Mrs W's book, which says the grads of Leonard's class were considered grads of this one. It doesn't say "this is the same class, plagiarized", but what it DOES say makes that pretty clear.
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  4. Dispensationalism is all f*d up and was/is one of the main problems with TWI. Paul's writings were distorted by dispensationalists such as J.N. Darby and E.W. Bullinger. There is no exegetical justification within Paul's writings to conclude that the dispensation of grace will end at the gathering together(rapture) which then triggers a re-establishment of the 'Law Administration" for 7 years. It's not there! Ephesians 3 describes exactly what changed in the dispensation of grace: that the Gentiles are included and joint heirs with Christ. All this other stuff is false doctrine. I agree with Twinky that this thread is turning into doctrinal so I'm done with it.
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  5. They might say "grace administration," but they have become more legalistic than ever, from what I can see, in what they actually "teach." I doubt that, practically, they have the faintest idea of what "grace" means, is, and enables. And as for "graceful" and "gracefulness" ... well, that's okay as long as you do what they say. Don't think about being individual or doing anything different. And whatever you do, don't look at the chains that invisibly bind you to that organisation.
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