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Yeah, I couldn't agree more. TWI had us chasing red dots with their proven ministry research line. To them any subject they considered "proven" was above question. That's pure BS to me, if something is truly proven then it should stand to question and scrutiny no matter when and where they occur.

Fascinating video – thanks, Rocky! Towards the latter part – Beau talks about the difference in perspectives and experiences – one person sees a connection between two ideas and yet to another person the two ideas look very far apart…that touches on the stimulating factor of Grease Spot Café…I wish I could embrace that more often…maybe it takes more patience, sympathy, empathy, consideration, kindness, etc. … there’s those mysterious push-and-pull forces that I am usually oblivious to at Grease Spot – ideas and feelings that encourage a person to leave their comfort-zone – and then there’s factors that draw a person to “someplace” way outside their comfort zone…some cool stuff to think about in the surviving-a-cult-experience-and-moving-on-in-life aspect of discussions at Grease Spot Cafe.

So, I suppose it's altogether okay if GSC people are not innately curious about spirituality, what's "out there" that's bigger than any of us have been able to even imagine before. But I am innately curious even about things that are outside orthodox religion or Christianity. When I read Dr Bolen's book, it enabled me to rethink some of my experiences. Like the time, when I hitchhiked from Los Angeles to Gunnison the summer before going into residence with the 9th corpse. Among the things I endured/experienced during that particular excursion were what I believed then were God intervening to get me rides. I've expanded my imagination to redefine those events. One reason? Because what I DID then that made the difference was to act of "letting go." Since then, I've read of other people, not claiming such intervention was from God. IOW, God makes (or allows) the rain to fall on the "just and the unjust." Put another way, meaningful events in my life were synchronistic. This YouTube video has what I view as legitimate insight. At one point in it, the speaker mentions politics. But that's only context. It's not a debate about what are good or bad political positions. The vid is under 7 minutes. I hope you enjoy, or at least mindfully listen to the extent you can apply critical analysis to it. If you do so and believe you have a legitimate perspective to debunk this fellow's ideas, by all means, share with us.

I listened to and spot checked some of his recording of 3-12-22. I don't know who his audience is or who he thinks he's talking to but apparently he's going to continue lecturing to his own navel if that's what it comes to. He still spends most of his time criticizing everyone else, others "distortions" and skewed logic. By the time he gets to talking about how "twisted" it is I can hear him snarling. I wonder if he still has 2 or 3 women on the side he screws, and if they think they're doing some great service to God when they bend over? What a sad sorry bag of gas. I pray for him but I wouldn't walk across the street to hear his personal regurgitations of PFAL. Steer clear! PEACE homies!

A wonderful human and righteous expression about cults. Thanks both to Twinky and Bolshevik for posting this excellent, though provoking video.