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Bolshevik, You have been trying for months to get thrown off this site. Might I suggest a different approach? Stop logging in, maybe?1 point
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I actually am going to go a tad off topic here to promote a relevant book to me in cult recovery. https://www.amazon.com/Boundaries-Updated-Expanded-When-Control/dp/0310351804/ref=asc_df_0310351804_nodl?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312425492373&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8006165555801102442&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9029031&hvtargid=pla-425385864932&psc=1&dplnkId=d098e52a-0af3-478b-b029-87b63f5d6681 Boundaries. For my life due to PTSD left over from cult trauma I have had remarkably deteriorated boundaries. When people cross perceived boundaries this sets me off and my reaction is more animal and less cerebral than I would like. I have had to work on this pretty hard over a decade. I hope they are a little better now but let’s see how today goes lol. With respect to GSC I’ve found it specifically helpful as the people who commit heinous acts behind closed doors don’t usually admit it in the open. So it has taken a collaboration of firsthand accounts to even put together the truth of events, history, and actions in TWI. As they are very consistently hidden and whitewashed over and minimized. The exact same process happens in other cults regardless of the content. JWs, Mormons, Scientology to name a big 3. So that catches my attention. When you have an ungoverned body of leaders they will gravitate towards making life easier for themselves and care less about hardships for others. The act of government and democratic government with voting helps even benefits out for all. With government varying viewpoints can be accommodated. With a dictatorship they are attacked or ignored. Jesus Christ is a savior to the general populace not a military leader to the few privileged. VPW is just a molten statue and idea at this point. Plenty still kneel and bow before this idol though. Classes and programs and teaching centers in his name. Not Christs name. Christ has no current earthly governance. That is all in the future according to most rational Bible accounts. Governance is mankind for better or worse. Like the Tower of Babel account in Genesis. You store up rewards on earth or in heaven and the ego is an earthly reward with short term benefit.1 point
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What does a university professor have to do with anything? Skyrider doesn't care. This website is no labor of love. My information came from a generation that is now dead. In the grave. They called out the generation that followed TWI. This website exists to call THEM liars. Who am I to believe? Cult followers? Or those who survived a world none of us can imagine? The former-followers of The Way targeted us in grocery stores, at schools, in churches. FACE-TO-FACE. State after State. THEY are the pot stirrers. THEY never left the cult. THEY are the problem. What is this website? Except an extension of what they do. Nobody alive of any consequence can remember Victor Paul Wierwille, if he ever really existed, he doesn't matter. All these memories must go into oblivion.1 point
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Sending a special shout out to the individuals who change the oil and rotate the tires here. Thank You.1 point
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When I did my research paper, the first draft was, IMHO, pretty good. It contained no Wayspeak because it covered areas that TWI rarely ventured into. Stylistically, my paragraphs had a bit of an opening sentence, Bible verse (usually from the OT), and a light sort of exposition. I was using the verses, however, as building blocks to my conclusion, not in a show-off way but to present my case. First draft got sent back. I hadn't included enough references to PFAL materials. (That's because there wasn't anything relevant in PFAL, dummy!) Second draft, well, finished version: I had had to rewrite to include various references to PFAL material that wasn't really relevant and added nothing. This version was well received, surprisingly widely read among the head honchos, got quite a few compliments from unexpected sources. I found a copy of my (haha) research paper a few months ago. I read it. It is, actually, good stuff. Huh, the additional bits that I had to stick in - stick out like sore thumbs. Made me wince. But: finished version matched their "style guide" and so was deemed acceptable. Looking at it again, I'd do it a little differently now, not the research work (which was so entirely my own work) but the way it was put together. And it could well be much longer because it was a fascinating subject. Certainly, there wouldn't be any Way jargon or turn of phrase. Oh, what was it, you ask? "Judicial Answers of Truth in the Ministry of Jesus Christ." [I remembered the title as being a little different, but I'm looking at the document itself.) Good ole Craig himself gave me that topic. Every answer, every OT quote, that Jesus gave was checked back in its OT context, reading back and forth over all related chapters, and then reading other related areas, Bible books, etc. Started as a word study of the word Apokrinomai [remember those word studies?] and exploded out from there. So you can see: mostly OT stuff - and a good look at the gospels. So you can see why there was so little quotable material in PFAL. After all, it wasn't necessary to study the Man himself, nor his lifestyle, his application of scriptures to living in his everyday world, his understanding, exposition and demonstration of the scriptures/ Torah/ Pentateuch/ temple teaching available to him. We're so very smart now that the gospels are irrelevant, so don't need to be covered in PFAL, just given a passing glance from time to time. The reality of "It is Written" applies to PFAL materials only. Rant over! Oh, and yeah. As a retired lawyer, I was used to considering carefully, looking at lots of relevant material, and producing an opinion, letter, document that noted all salient points and led to a clear conclusion. I knew how to write: for a court, for a lay client, for other professionals. And formally, for my dissertation - my degree. Not to mention, informally just for pleasure. But writing Way-style....errggggghhhhhh. Children's stories are better written.1 point
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Interesting old thread this. I was going to include an extract from their digital WayRag but it's not set up well and is in any event so difficult to read. At random I chose an article, and found a paragraph. So: they say what they want to say, reasonably intelligibly. Then say it again. Then a Biblical quotation. Then, take an English word (an ordinary, nothing-special type of word, from that Bible quote, and say "this is the Greek word xxxx" and expound what they claim is the meaning, both then and now. Then virtually re-write the opening sentence of the paragraph. Write four pages like this. Hey presto! End of article. Whatever they said, it could have been said more clearly in half a page. Not four pages.1 point
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Yeah – good one Excathedra – you've inspired my funny bone - so here goes... TWI writing style in various business contexts.... Late bill notice: "Greetings & blessings to you in the name of our wonderful Redeemer, who paid in full the price for our sins. Unfortunately, he didn't cover your cable bill." Response from IRS to a TWI follower's income tax filing: "Please be advised altering tax forms is a serious matter. It has come to our attention that on your 2007 tax form, you crossed out 'married filing separately' and wrote in 'together with yet distinctly independent of'." Notification of an out of stock item: "We are sorry to inform you that one of the items on your order is presently unavailable due to factory cutbacks. In an effort to lessen cost overruns to our shipping and handling departments impacted by filling partial orders we have decided that your entire order will be held in abeyance until every item on your order is completely, completely, absolutely completely available." Investment opportunity ad: "Mining company seeks investors to finance re-opening of abandoned mine believed to have several untapped veins. We look forward to working with those who have the love of gold in the renewed mine in manifestation." Advertisement for how a new wonder drug works: "The memory pill works both thoroughly and throughly by ineffable greatness in accordance with the exceeding abundantly above and beyondness of all other redundancy in the great principle with and/or without distinct exception. The memory pill remembers the memories you should remember. They now become the pill's memories, and the pill's memories remind your memories of things to remember, then it becomes manifested along memory lane as you remember. It's just another amazing breakthrough from Lokbox Pharmaceuticals." [ps. this upgrade takes some serious getting used to...]1 point