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My wife and I attended a tribute band to the Beatles called thefabfour.com. One of the songs performed was John Lennon’s “Imagine.” The opening verse is: Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people living for today So many people love this song, including Christian friends of mine. Most likes it because it is about loving one another, no more killings, no more hunger, and it is a soothing song. However, when I mention that all this will happen when we no longer believe in God, they just shrug their shoulders, and let it go. No matter the lyrics, they just like the song. It just makes me chuckle.

Chock, I think you’ve proposed TWI is very similar to JW. I see it now. Oh, do I see it! I’ve been reading threads here https://reddit.com/r/exjw/s/DyxZAxIuy3. From the org structure to the ever-morphing, doctrinal bulls hit to the manipulative control, it’s uncanny! Terminology is slightly different, but the meanings and implications are exactly the same. Just so sad, gross and stupid. The crisis of cult - religious, ideological, political, national - is the single greatest existential threat to mankind. IMO

All right spongebob. I'm out. Talk to yourself