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  1. In 1978, wierwille's tone of ownership of "his" corps came in the derisive term COP OUTS. Sitting in those corps meetings, I had the gut sense that wierwille's twi had a major, structural flaw. Why was vpw name-calling? Why can't corps grads leave twi if they so desire? Why the heavy-handedness? Yet, others sitting around me didn't seem perplexed.......what gives? Was I being too judgemental? Was I not seeing it clearly? There it was in PLAIN SIGHT......and yet, there was no mounting dissent. So......I shelved this "concern" for another day. Red flags were clearly flying in 1978. Why aren't the clergy seeing this? Are they just a group of yes-men? Questions, questions........and I was a lowly inrez corps guy. Who was I to 'nitpick' the great mog of the universe for his choice of terms. Or, does "cop out" indicate something far more sinister and devious? The hidden parts of twi are now in plain sight.
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  2. My point is their insistence on it not being a language, or their "conclusions" they wrote up are no different than my speculation without some form of proof that takes the form of evidence presented to the reader. I'm not buying your mental milk exercise example with no write-up as sufficient. That's obvious, and I'm not going to argue that any more. I'm proposing that they can't identify language from phenomic makeup beyond the languages which they are fluent in or have significant exposure to. I'm also proposing that for extinct languages, there are NO linguists that can do this as they don't have a catalog of known phenomic samples of the actual language being spoken in any form. And I submit that it absolutely IS an issue in the research we've been reviewing.
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  3. Now and then I think it pays, as we recall the trees that made up TWI, to take a step back and look at the forest. TWI was a pattern of deception. It wasn't that there was something wrong. It wasn't even that there were a lot of things wrong. The whole enterprise was rotten to the core. Every good thing about it was a trap to draw you into its real reason to exist: to control you and leave you utterly dependent on them for as many facets of your life as possible. I'm lucky. I got out fast. For those of you who stayed a long time: I can't fathom the damage that was done. I'm impressed that you got out in one piece! It's like I said when the Actual Errors thread came to a merciful end: trying to mine our TWI experience to figure out what was good in it is like looking at the cheese in a mousetrap as a potential source of calcium. I'm not denying it's cheese. I'm not denying it has calcium. But I'm also not losing sight of who laid it out there and why.
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  4. So wait: a rational and honest train of thought is not pursued in part because no one around you is pursuing it, so you accept something you question in your gut that you might otherwise have challenged? Why, one might call it socially reinforced self-delusion. But Wierwille could never get away with that. Not without laying some groundwork first. Naaaaah.
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