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And *apparently* that is all they know how to do..

I dunno.. it just seems to me.. to be another reason to realize what a worthless dirtbag he really was.. interesting though, in whitesides little interview with herr vicster.. what words did he put in his *critics* mouths? it wasn't.. they say I'm a drunken abusive con man.. they say I had a few "flings" with church secretaries and such.. no. It was "they say I got my *degree* at a DEGREE MILL.. and he goes on to set that little matter aside.. it does seem to be a cleaner, easier to go after target..

isn't this the guy (pharis) who taught the stiffies almost everything the supposedly know about "personal prophecy" ?

been fifteen days.. still no reply. Interesting.. just a few simple questions..

Its very fitting the backdrop of this is a farm.. kinda Orwellian, would you agree?

What I wonder is.. now that they have gone their separate ways.. the graeser's ejected from herr organization, doing gawd knows what besides litigating.. jl off on his own "trip".. and js and a few others keeping the campfire warm.. has anybody every gotten any legitimate ANSWERS? or just more podcasts.. teachings, and appeals for money and motorcoaches?

What I wonder is.. what would Paul say, confronted by a lot of modern opinion that he was some kind of saint.. that he breathed out the breath of gawd.. along with the statues and such.. murals.. some people clinging onto every recorded word he uttered like it were God himself.. if it were the vicster, I think he would think its a "hoot".. Paul, I dunno.

http://www.colorsontheweb.com/combiningcolors.asp I think it is deliberate. That many colors on a black background.. quite "busy". As if, "we are doing *something* here.." Definitely not a standard color scheme.. "we are not *standard*" perhaps?

He could just register and stay anonymous. Slowly leak info about one little escapade after another.. it would be "fascinating" to watch. twi would probably have the check in the mail after the first post..

You mean gartmore gearo? I haven't seen him get a free ride here. Although, unlike lynn, he seems to be holed up somewhere just keeping his mouth shut, except for possible tirades for close *ahem* "partners" in da ministry, and seems content to quietly sell franchises to run his class.. I think he knows better than publicly advertising.. no letters or emails to be *leaked* to gs cafe..

I dunno.. I think the bible from herr vicster was more like learning medical science from a quack.. some of it may work, the rest of it.. well..

the vicster didn't want to know what people believed about any given verse either.. made that pretty clear early on.. went on to claim that denominations were caused by private interpretation. But wasn't that taken out of context as well?

Now I know why rosie looks more like a bouncer.. *AHEM* sowie. Wrong context..

I can read a little "rage" here.. no wonder rose and the donster have white vans with second rate security guards patrolling the compound.. if I were them, I would step up security a notch or two.. you can afford it. I'd up a gate with a guard on wienerville road.. oh. Forgot.. its a public road. Maybe you could buy it from the county? slap a barcode on the followers forehead.. you could use modern technology to scan them individually as they come in for sns.. they would hardly notice it I'm sure.. while you're at it.. you might consider a barbed wire fence..

And what I wonder is.. 1. You gave roughly 15 percent of your income to the organization.. 2. Then what was left, you scrimped and scraped, ate peanut butter and ketchup (not on the bread at the same time) sandwiches to be able to afford the bank payment and upkeep.. other expenses.. 3. You sold the house. Suppose you were "blessed" with a forty percent return on your investment.. did you give fifteen percent of the proceeds to da way in response to gawd's "blessing"? Seems you already more than "abundantly shared" on the cash you paid for the house to begin with..

Maybe its another way to "separate" da household from the rest of society.. try explaining to someone outside da walls.. "and WHY did you sell your house? You had a good job.. kept payments up.." "*ahem*, well.. my church told me to do it.."

They are supposed to be a "how to" *ministry*. Anybody ever publish in the rag, or teach a sns "how to believe for a house"? Or do they cite the rare incident where a "believer" gets a house by inheritance or something?

I had a political science professor.. now I see what he was talking about. It absolutely BLEW his MIND that other human beings would take aim at one another.. sorry.. as "human behaviour".. I have to distance myself.. I hope you all do the same.. sorry.. *we* are.. for the lack of better words.. "screwed up".

see.. they are going to have to explain 1976 what with what what would I call it.. the relevance of 1976 paranoia with the paranoia of the new century.. no, it hasn't moved an inch.. but who cares anyway.. its a small cult..only a couple hundred rounds of armor, and watchful dedication between *us* and *them*.. interesting.. well, human behavior is fascinating..

If I were her.. I'd be 100 percent transparent.. "ya wanna know something..? well.. they have a web site.. It would put the *burden* of transparency where it belongs..

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did you ever think of the alternative.. if Paul lied, we still.. have everything..

you'd think after stiffies current fall into the quagmire, the "partners" would run like hell.. hopefully not into the arms of j.l. But I guess.. can't you see the blindness of those leading the blind here? he is a momentus *grad* fer crying out loud.. isn't "blindness" and "hard heartedness" synonymous? where else can one get "training" in throwing a BROTHER in CHRIST off of a lifeboat.. and have a CLEAR CONSCIENCE? Yeah.. perhaps it was just an *exercise*. but for what? I would suggest.. for the real thing.. and people STILL trust these guys..

Any "local clubs" sign on for jl's new psychodrama? Wouldn't surprise me..

The ones who buy the gasbag two or three replacement microphones.. civil words fail me to describe it at the moment.. doesn't logic dictate.. you buy the gasbag another microphone, and you'll here the same "doo doo"? "more transparency".. Ha.