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here is a history chart from http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/link=/sun/images/sunspot_num_graph_big_jpg_image.html&edu=high note the very long low period in the 1600's. If it happens again, there is no lack of precedence or anything..

here is another chart you might find interesting.. I think wikipedia got it from NASA

we are now in a low part of an eleven year sunspot cycle. People started recording sunspot numbers about 130 years ago, and there is a recurring peak (and trough) roughly at an eleven year mark.

just a thought.. didn't the "scriptures" belong to the "Jews" before da way compiled them from texts and microfilm and such?

So fella.. and if you don't have at least somebody reading this stuff posted about *your* organization.. you are NUTS. My opinion anyway.. what does your MOTHER think about your *great* endeavor? pa seems to relish using your name.. and *uncle* mac.. what about ma? I'm sure she said SOMETHING.. what was it.. if the "grand" poobah isn't reading this.. staff, please pass the message..

You might be right.. but so far, I've observed the same arrogant attitude "we've got the majority of truth" in even the most benign offshoots I've had any dealings with.. I saw one guy just kind of disappear not to be heard from again.. along with a "damage control" session to shift the blame of lack of results of the great "law" of believing on HIM.. so what, some bigwig got sick and died.. so what the "law" apparently didn't work.. what about THIS character.. his "problems" were a result of a lack of "believing" in every stinking action he took.. and his sole question.. if the "law" was really that reliable, how could an "expert" in "believing" succumb to such a "negative" outcome. I would say it was a heart's cry for answers.. and how was it dealt with.. and this was what most here consider a relatively benign offshoot. after seeing this, and the overt arrogance of STIFFI.. I am not in the least bit interested in any offshoot.. I partly agree with one poster's estimation: most share the "spiritual dna" of the parent organization. I'm not saying its impossible.. but so far, they seem to share the same doctrine, the same fruit.. the only ones I know of exempt of this arrogance, abandoned this crap, and hooked up with.. God forbid.. CHURCHES.. denominations..

Perhaps. I think he is a victim of this carefully designed disgrace.. *they* gave him the *name*, probably stroked his ego with "prophecies" of moghood since he was in the crib.. painted a rosie picture of da way, it was.. I don't think he had a choice in the matter. They made him.. though still a NOVICE.. unmarried, unexperienced, knows little more theology than gramps "heritage"..yet somehow his position is supported by gawd almighty.. The majority of the flack goes to "uncle" mac, pops, and whoever else stroked his fragile ego.. He really thinks gramps is some kind of super-hero. Thinks da way was a mystical, mythical place of goodness before the "bad people" undermined gramps work.. yeah, they made him. I wonder what his ma thinks..

ah yes. Kind of like going to school in the old days..

I know friend.. heh.. but it did get me to think.. what kind of answers we might be soliciting in some of these problems.. this one is everywhere:

Its awful hard to produce a non offensive, politically correct math problem these days.. One of the newest.. no kidding.. I saw this one assigned to my students.. two planes 1200 miles apart (or something like that). One is travelling east at 492 mph.. the other, travelling west at 500 mph.. when do they meet each other? that was the question. I was thinking.. asking the students.. "what do we know about this problem.. etc.." nooooooo. Not me.. I would be among the first to say, "what do I KNOW? I wouldn't want to be a passenger on either of these planes.." no kidding..

hmm.. well, for this particular math problem, let's just let him run out of gas.. at 192 mph that can't be boo long..

Leave it to Google ads to come up with the *best* solution.. every offshoot needs a few of these.. http://www.jenesco.com/mold-and-mildew.html?gclid=CJmw4-P_05wCFQ8MDQodw0wUIg

simple. They spike the tires.. now at 192 mph, I'm not exactly sure how a flat tire plays out.. maybe he went to the hospital..

One of my childhood memories.. neighbor had coats and clothing that were in a damp place.. he hauled them out and put them on the clothes line (they used to have them).. me being a snot nosed young wascal "WHATCHA DOOOOIN, neighbor?" putting this moldy crap out so the sunlight can kill the mold.. "OOOOOOO, O, K...." what a lot of these offshoot "morons" (excuse me, no better description I can come up with) can't figure out is, light really doesn't kill truth. I suppose if one just happens to BE the mold, they might have a few objections..

the general "principle" of any offshoots seems to be.. at least in my personal observation.. "we don't air our dirty laundry". why not? "it'd give da product, ahem, da *word* a bad reputation". God forbid that we would want the "world" to think we were ahem, "wrong".. just seems to me.. if the "product" is so stinky, mouldy and mildewed that a little exposure of light of day can't "fix".. isn't it time to find a new product?

in my brief "stint" in even a relatively BENIGN offshoot.. I've seen what happens when a "follower" applies the "law of believing" in "reverse". That it, "where was so and so's (one of the big leaders of said offshoot) "believing" when they died, or succumbed to a terrible disease.. or.." experienced some other such "negative" in the world.. it does not go well. For the "follower" that is. One might never see or hear from them, again.

I dunno. If someone has a burning itch to contribute.. why not Greasespot Cafe? There IS a little "donate" tab on the main page. We could even invent a little slogan: "Don't be a greasespot, donate to Greasespot.." or something like that..

Charleton Heston said something like that..

If I knew his parents, I'd ask them if he's ok or something..

umm.. your pontiac bonneville didn't quite show up.. :) while you are tooling about in the Bonneville for secret rendevous in New Breman and St. Mary's, you need a few of these to chug down..

it might be bizarre, but some are still stuck in that kind of mentality.. some old deposed leadership saved up tithes from meagre wages from working at places like mcdonalds or taco bell.. waiting for a "god approved" place to deposit it.. I am thinking specifically of one individual.. naw, he'll never post here..

or more about making one. Or maintaining power over people, when one's past highly disqualifies them..

heh. Only when it suits them. Other than that, its legalism..

what I find interesting.. many of us who "watched" this nonsense for so long are now comparing notes.. not that I'm trying to scare the hell out of you or anything.. but if I were you fella, I'd want to know why..