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Reminds me of a movie.. I think it had Dustin Hoffman in it as a blood sucking defense attourney.. he went nuts at the end.. or was it a moment of real sanity.. defending a child molester I think.. and at the jury trial, turned on his client.. I wonder if rico was at least half tempted at his moment before the press..

Hmmm. You might need one of these too..

too bad their options are so limited..

Yeah.. I would agree a lot of people were intelligent and fun before whatever prescribed amount of whatever it was that loy required them to huff. but still.. I think there is a pattern.. the last limb guy I met here.. he was.. well.. on intellectual par with a brick.. his wife however.. wowser.. intelligent, a real "looker".. and the one before.. I understand some of the effects of whatever loy's concoction was wore off.. but he was (when I was in) a REAL, ignorant GOON.. and his wife, well.. same description applied.. intelligent, a real knockout.. the same pattern applies to the two or three limb guys before them.. even the married branch coordinators.. Now if Rico can stand there.. and "boldly proclaim to the world" that *they* fully inform the followers of EVERYTHING, peas to nutso.. and BELIEVES IT.. something has to be either deathly put to sleep, or missing.. at least in my opinion. :)

from Seth.. I think that's pretty typical of okie's appointees.. the *man* is kinda average, or of less average intelligence.. not a real "eye catcher" as far as ladies are concerned.. often a dumb brute who just happened to develop the fine skills of blindly obeying orders.. and the wife- above average intelligence and good looks.. or is that just a pattern I'm the only one who noticed? ya know.. in *real life*.. I don't see how these goons could "bag" that quality of a wife.. it just doesn't seem "natural" or anything..

And there is one I really WISH would post here.. apparently he is not "vindictive" enough- YET.. *they* ground some of these guys manhood into the ground.. reduced them to utter sub-servience.. all in the name of God, of course.. sadly, "god" looks a lot like rosie.. I think conditions were even far worse, after loy's departure..

So between public press releases, it seems they have him working the night shift, chasing undesirables out of da way woods.. "and on your way back, make sure you clean the oil spots and pick up the McDonald's wrappers from the parking lot in front of the brc.." I just wonder.. does he have a brain of his own? sorry socks.. I just know what they did to some of these guys.. I wonder if they are still on rosies groundskeeping crew between calls to the microphone..

So I wonder.. what to the "board" constitutes "training in the whole word.." vic's pfal series? Does part of this concept include the vicster's claim that cancer = devil possession? if so, how do you reconcile the fact that der manogawd to the whole world succumbed to this disease? Will your group shun those who contract this disease as "contaminated", "compromised", "possessed"? If you hold the words of vic true you will.. and his own words condemned the man himself..

This morning, I've been thinking.. the manner they withheld these little details and such, were they not treating me like a CHILD? and of course the rest of the ministry that wasn't involved in the inner circle? were they so deathly afraid that little "johnny" would get upset, and go play somewhere else? I was twenty years old at the time.. and there were those in their thirties and forties.. don't their brains and great wordagawd they supposedly got count for SOMETHING? Seems they didn't trust us.. or could trust us with the facts.. and every effort was geared to keep a sick, dysfunctional, incestuous "family" together, all like it always supposedly had been.. DWBH's exposition showed how sick it really was..

That really has to hurt.. Well, I don't think it would exactly look so good on a resume.. I'm sure they check how one performs how well they function as a p.r. person. He didn't exactly pull twi's reputation out to the fire, or anything.. then staff in the 90's wasn't what it used to be either. He may have worn the p.r. hat.. but between sorting out peas, peanuts and press releases from the lawsuits, they probably had him cleaning the parking lot.. I dunno.. maybe he got the priviledge to "coordinate" the cleaning of rosie's swimming pool.. I know of some staff they did that kind of thing to.. crushed professional type people with micro-management and menial labor that any reputable company would contract out to a cleaning business.. true. I think they just couldn't put enough spin on anything lawsuit related to make it look "good". "we PREVAILED.. only lost 16 million when we coulda lost 50.."

I see this is the last statement he gave regarding the matter.. and it's been almost EIGHT YEARS. I wonder if he's struggling with grammar and spelling issues, working over the fiftieth revision for release.. I mean, he said we WILL release something, didn't he? Rico lie? Naw...

and the "warm welcome" you received from those sycophants shows one thing, at least to me: they will NOT change, unless it is EXPEDIENT, or under great duress..

I understand false prophets can at times do miracles.. I know of one, genuine, at least to the recipient, healing the vicster supposedly performed.. his "jesus lookalike" miracle in india.. is questionable at best. looking at the wake of sexual and otherwise abuse victims.. ruined lives.. I think any "good" he did exacted a great price..

is that ham and pineapple pizza, or ham, and pineapple pizza?

Well, I hope so.. I've already out-lived my dad by about three years. The only thing I can think.. should I meet with a demise before paying back the student loans, they'll probably shoot a couple loan sharks (officers) after giving them explicit instructions to go collect from me..

All that's for those who can "spiritually" handle it ya know..

Now George.. you could have had all that and more, had you climbed a little further up on the MLM ladder..

Where would I be? Well.. I wouldn't be in college at 51 years old.. Probably have a LOT more money.. last week, my account actually hit -1.36. Probably have a doctorate in chemistry, math, physics, or a combination thereof.. probably married and divorced a few times.. probably be a functional alcoholic.. But not miserable. Not that I am miserable now.. Looking at old age and retirement with -1.36 in the bank could depress some people I suppose.. doesn't bother me too much. I guess I'm nutso.. Well.. two good things came out of my involvement. I have two kids.. they are both intelligent, both of them have a college degree, both are married to spouses which I could not hand-pick ones any better.. and neither of them are tied up in a $%*@ cult..

Aha.. so he IS infected with *something*..

plus an aversion to garlic, henbane, and crosses. The vicster did have an aversion to crosses, did he not? Coincidence maybe..

One observation.. assuming that he DID "stand in the gap" for the flock.. it would seem that der vey put up for sale that which the flock already had to begin with. seems they were masters at manufacturing "problems" people never had to begin with..

Did he REALLY think he was "the high priest"? Or some modern equivalent? It would seem so to me..

Haven't seen it either.. at least financially or professionally. hey, if it doesn't work out, can we send meyers the bill?

I think if they can't deal with it PUBLICALLY, they have no godly business starting a new twi knockoff, corps lookalike "training" or any such nonsense. they've like.. moved from under the cover of one organization which thrived on authoritarianism, abuse and lack of accountability to another.. I really think it comes down to money and power. pfal and it's clones are cash cows.. it's like when twi ship was burning and sinking.. it wasn't "save the women and children first.." It was more like.. "for gawd's sakes, get those tapes and books on a lifeboat.."

considering that the vast majority, 99.something percent of Christians believe in the Trinity.. I'd say to be "one of *them*" the belief, or agreement would be necessary..maybe it depends on how one defines "Christian". I think vic's material is irrelevant, as far as any genuine kind of spirituality is concerned. He seemed to be able to debate facts, a few statistics.. but no genuine godliness as such came out of it...