outofdafog

On Fox News cable channel, there is a show on tonight (Sunday) at 9 pm called "Are your children safe". It's about the recent spate of children being kidnapped/and or murdered. If anyone is interested, looks like a good show...good info.

This is my prayer for my children........ ROD STEWART lyrics - "Forever Young May the good Lord be with you Down every road you roam And my sunshine and happiness surround you when you are far from home And may you grow to be proud Dignified and true And do unto others As you'd have done to you Be courageous and be brave And in my heart you'll always stay Forever young, forever young Forever young, forever young May good fortune be with you May your guiding light be strong Build a stairway to heaven with a prince or a vagabond And may you never love in vain and in my heart you will remain Forever young, forever young Forever young, forever young And when you finally fly away I'll be hoping that I served you well For all the wisdom of a life time No one can ever tell But whatever road you choose I,m right behind you, win or lose Forever young, forever young Forever young, forever young...........

From a book called "Really important stuff my kids have taught me" ...build the base of your block tower wider than the top..... What a wonderful foundation for your future Ryan. I love to see young people go after their dreams. My oldest daughter is about to graduate in 2 weeks from college. I am bursting with pride. Congrats!! ....and for everything else my little college graduate makes me use my master card.... :D-->

Does this gentleman have a website trefor? If so could you post the URL address?

Well gosh, really, how many gays do you encounter in a day's time that "slap it in your face"? And again, just remember, every gay man you meet doesn't want to sleep with you, nor does every gay woman or girl you meet wants to sleep with you. They do have their standards also. Chances are you are hearing this on the news or reading it in the newspaper. The media has a way of "exaggerating" things because of the repetitive nature of their reporting. So they have a gay pride parade, don't listen to it, turn to another channel. That's your right as a God-fearing American. My child's life-style is pretty much as normal as the next teen. I don't have any problems that a mother or father wouldn't face with a heterosexual child. I do have to remember though not to allow girls to come over and have a slumber party. Boys are okay. And if you think that is sick or perverted, spend some time really listening to the news about parents killing their children. According to LCM, homo's don't deserve to breathe the same air as the rest of us. I say parents who murder their children don't deserve their next breath. You can't even begin to compare the two. ....and for everything else there is MasterCard...

I thought about that after I wrote that. Maybe it could be called something like: TOP TEN WAYS TO CHASTISE YOUR "GAY" CHILD def - you never answered my question - what's a mother to do?

Jim - could you bring forth a word of interpretation there for me --> :)-->

I know with all the crap that goes on in our schools nowadays, that teachers probably are a little more on edge about children that "act out". But by God we can't let "fear" rule over sensibility and "political correctness" drive "common sense" away.

www.cnn.com/2005/US/05/09/student.cellphone/index.html I think everybody involved really over-reacted here. I still think none of us know what it is like to be 17 years old, a dead father at 5, and your mother serving a world away in a war you may not or may agree with. He never knows if it is the last time he will ever talk to her. How many of us adults can handle this, let alone our children. And yes, according to our laws, he is still a child. Put yourself in someone else's shoes for a minute and then perhaps we would not be that quick to judge.

Hey Lingo, this is OoDaFog - if I was your mama I'd be kicking your butt for saying that right now. You know what I am talking about. Hey I pay attention to your posts. I can tell the "heart" of the parent you are. You did the responsible parent thing. Kinda like in the 5 year old tantrum thread (instead we had an 18 year old tantrum) of course brought on by some very sad events the night before. But you really just "held" him as you would if he was younger to get his attention. There was nothing you would have been able to tell him until you got his attention. You de-fused the situation first, obviously it was getting out of control. Then from what I can tell you handled it very appropriately. Alot of different sentimental emotions playing all weekend at your house - senior prom, mothers day, your birthday. My goodness you did just fine. And you loved him up real good afterward, so you are great parents. So young man, don't ever let me hear you say that again. By the way............Happy Birthday :)-->

CM thank you, that was sweet of you to say I can't believe you said this because I brought up the exact thing in another gay thread and no one wanted to respond to it. As a matter of fact I was told by at least one poster, one didn't have anything to do with the other. I am hearing you when you talk about if anyone had to face a true demon, as Jesus Christ, they would be hightailing it in another direction. The true spiritual realities that are on going are really beyond our spiritual comprehension.

Trust me I have thought about this for a couple years now. Here are some my options: a) kick her out of the house until she swears off homosexuality b) have her prayed over by the pedophile priest down the road c) make her wear a scarlett L d) have the "demons" exercised" out of her by the current pope e) take her to church and have her confess her "sin" in front of a bunch of strangers f) pay a therapist $100.00 an hour to convince her she is not who she really says she is g) tell her I wished I had never given birth to her, that she is defective h) burn her as a steak, oops I meant "at the stake" i) how about public humiliation in the square down town, that will teach her .....and for everything else, there is MasterCard

def59 What other choices do I have then? You are asking me to love my child conditionally.

nonetheless.....here is an interesting article... www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,155867,00.html Just because you are the captain of the boat, doesn't mean that you are the smartest, it just means that you are the one with the boat.

I think this bi-sexual thing could be a phase. In the world of teenagers, it's hard to know what might be the lastest fad. I guess because I just can't believe that there would be that many bi-sexuals kids. Or maybe I just am communicating only with that group, it just seems to be a high number. -->

:D--> oh my God that is too funny.....you made my day......

Kind and thoughtful for you to say........ Actually being the parent of a gay child gives me access to alot of information in the gay happenings at the schools. I know who is gay, who is not, whose parents know, whose parents don't know, some just the mom knows and they could never tell their dad, some just the dad knows and they could never tell their mom's.....some because of religious belief, some because they tell me their parents are racist "archie bunker types" who cannot handle it, some of the parents are very accepting, some think their parents will throw them out of the house. Then you "throw" all the step-parents beliefs into it. You really don't know what kids are talking about out there until you "really start listening" to them. Not just hearing what you want to hear. And the number who claim to be bi-sexual (now that's a whole 'nother story in itself......

Hahaha :D-->......you got me pegged.

None of those stories prove anything.... They are all taken from probably the same press pool.... Of course the administration is going to try to cover their butts.....so the child became distraught.....the adults could have handled this with a little more tact. I am surprised they didn't call the police and handcuff the kid.......sigh

awww excie.......you are gonna make me cry. love you....

mj - those are some very valid questions you brought up at the end of your post. As someone who daily experiences raising a gay child, I can tell you, that it can be difficult. When my daughter first came to me, I did cry, even in front of her. I didn't throw a fit, but I was not able to talk to her right away about it because so many things were going through my mind. As the implications of what this meant started to slowly sink in over the next few days, I knew I had some serious spiritual and mental soul-searching to do. Especially with the still TWI mentality somewhat still afixed in my brain cells. The hatred of the homosexual that was experienced in LCM's tirades was still somewhat fresh in my mind. I just didn't "accept it" like I would a phone call. Over the months we discussed several aspects of a gay lifestyle. Was it real or just a "fad". What types of discrimination are you expecting or not expecting? Would she be exposed to hate words or hate crimes and how would she handle all of that? The sexual act part was really quite secondary to all the other issues that surround this. A whole lot deeper than just sex!! God why is it always about sex when gays are brought up..... Fast forward a few months and I asked myself honestly why I cried when she first told me....a real flood of compassion then engulfed my heart and the answer was so plain......I was crying for the hurt that I knew some days that she will suffer from the hands and mouths of a world that is still so immature when it comes to differences in people. All of a sudden I felt like I knew what it is like for people who are different in this society. She would be considered by others as a lower class of people. As a mother that was very sad. So to say a parent just accepts this without any thought....is totally bogus (at least for me). I have spent months soul-searching this and it always comes back to the love and devotion to my child, to protect them no matter what. EVERY LINE OF THINKING THAT I WENT OVER CAME BACK TO THAT.

My kids weren't/aren't allowed to have sex in my house either. Just because I say I love them unconditionally doesn't mean I don't have boundries. Neither one of those "lines of thought" were even remotely the context of my previous posts. I think your interpretation of what I said is stretching it alittle. As far as a parent giving up their values for their child's acceptance of them, wow that would have to be a very immature parent. One with not much self esteem at all. I don't know, I consider myself a very confident professional person, but because I accept her sexual preference means that I don't set boundaries. Cracks me up, why some people think that because you have a homosexual child that you are letting him/or her have sex all over the house. Good Lord.......

Yes that is my concern mj....especially having to live with another family that has 5 children. Where does he stand in line for adult attention? I really feel he needs someone to help him come to terms with probably a lot of emotional turmoil. Like a "Big Brother" or something from "Big Brothers and Sisters"

This is pretty outrageous....especially on the eve of Mothers Day..... The boy only had the opportunity to speak with his mom about once a month....his dad had died when he was 5 years old......he lives with a family who has five other children.....he wears dog tags around his neck with a picture of his mother...... This is so sad.... Here is the email of the School Superintendent (found publicly displayed on their website) jphillips@mcsdga.net

I think some further research on this subject should be done.....I plan to go to some garage sales today and get some further statistics. :D-->