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Quote: Anal and oral sex isn't all that they do.... What is it they do than, that is any different from heterosexual acts... I think many men would love to do the anal thing with their significant partner. Also, I noticed that many men's porn movies involve two women making love. Doesn't seem to bother you guys when it is two women. It's the man part that makes your ego's uncomfortable isn't it? A little too feminine for your male ego's huh? Well you know what, it ain't all about you.....

continued...... then you had better find out who she/he is having sex with because it is a well established part of heterosexual literature of a teens first time being "with anything he can fit it into"....... Some straight teens have been molested and take it out on younger children....... There are consequences to heterosexual sex acts. Anal and oral sex isn't the only thing they do. If you think it is then you definately got your head buried in the sand......probably where it's more comfortable.

Yes I was kind of wondering about your rant. If you are going to accept YOUR child's professed heterosexuality

Bad me, when I first did this topic it was from the title of the article. I did not read all the way through. It just struck me funny about gs suing over cookies. Me bad.... :o-->

Yes I did notice that homosexuality wasn't in that list as you said some would point out. So that's how ya do it. You just get to add your own private interp where you want to. It's not in the list but you decide God must have meant for it to be there too. Seems to me if it was that important to God IT WOULD be on the list.

There you go jbaraxx - you just gotta equate that rape, murder, evil and homosexuality together. I am sorry I guess there are some on here that still do think like LCM. Why doesn't that surprise me? I am sorry, JB, my child isn't raping, isn't murdering and ISN'T EVIL. SO P*** you. Yea I have had enough of your self righteous puke. They usually say if you are accusing somebody of something (you know one finger pointed) you got three pointed back at youself. Might be why you have such a self righteous attitude about this topic.

That looks like a pretty interesting sight mj...I also thought the article about the studies was interesting, I can't believe all the topics they have on there. As far as the gay agenda I can understand how some people feel that it is being shoved in their faces and forced down their throat. I am going to take a guess that that is what makes alot of folks uncomfortable. Then there is the "religious right" who feel the need to make it their life's work to rid the world of homosexuals".........both sides are extreme to me. That is just my truth, I cannot tell anyone else what their's is...... As far as the vulgar tantrum by LCM......I don't want anyone to think I am comparing anyone on this board to that....I was just showing extremes that both sides can go to. I always heard that "the truth" was always somewhere in the middle.........

Chas - that sounds like a really bice, warm family time. How wonderful. Sure feels good to be able to enjoy life without all the condemnation doesn't it? -->

You know it has been almost 4 years since I got "marked and avoided" and I am just now coming to grips with how deeply I held my teachings from TWI to this day 4 YEARS LATER. I guess for the first 3 years or so, I just kind of went into denial. This has even affected my almost 3 year marriage to someone who has never been associated with TWI. I really fear that people might find out that I was in a cult. That is my "dirty little secret". I am just now posting more on the boards and posted on Waydale (some of you might remember me as "iamfree" with the little dancing mouse), and able to really talk about my experiences with the Way. If I talk to you guys who all understand, I already see that it is making it easier for me to interact with those "on the outside" ;)-->

This type of hate is frightening.....

Me thinks he doth protest TOO MUCH.......

continued....if I have to take on every corps fellowship in this country and world to smoke this out, then I will. You will be exposed and embarrassed and flushed; so you might as well make up your mind to get out now. Even you who are genuinely convicted of your terrible behavior and finally and genuinely want help, you will probably still be dropped from the Corps household because you have lied to God and me and your Corps brothers and sisters for so many years to justify your insane thinking and sneaky behavior. However, that is not the end of the world if you genuinely want help...we could still allow you to be a part of Way ministry fellowships, although not in the corps household; and perhaps somewhere down the road you could do the corps again and do it clean and proper and pure in your thinking. HERE"S WHERE IT GETS REAL UGLY: Remember that the Words says homos are the "lowest of the people" and that certainly is true. You femal fags, called lesbians, might as well have dogs lick your slimy t*ats as another woman! You wimp-foot fag men who still think that somehow you have the right to take the grace of God in vain, might as well be corn-holing hourses with your dung-infested d*icks. Thats the way I feel about you and your thoughts and repugnancy. You are an abomination to God and the household of the Way Corps and The Way Ministry. You are detestable, and despicable and repugnant and worthy of death. You are so far beyond saltiness that you are the ultimate illustration of being worthless and not even fit for the dunghill. You are liars to God and His Word and a total disgrace to everything God did in Jesus Christ to bring the Corps training to you. I want these fag-foot, lilly-livered, rump-ranger, butt-pirate, turd-burblar, pillow-biter slime balls out of the Corps household..................

Excerpt from letter in July 1994 to the Way Corps declaring war on homosexuals. The author is Loy Craig Martinadale (now former President of the Way International. I would like to say to you "closet homosexuals" in the corps household that you better run, because you cannot hide! If I have to take on personally

www.courttv.com/people/2005/0429/scout_ap.html

Since the OJ trial, the defense is always now using the cop planted evidence, or the evidence was somehow tainted routines as there main defense. How lame.....

CM - good thing the real Lord has it in His hands. LOL and thanks CM - I needed that. I thank the Lord above every night that this great big old world is ultimately in his hands. I am trying to tread carefully here, or maybe I am just treading water :)--> Long gone - thanks for your kind ways

No what is really silly is equating homosexuality with drugs, alcohol, gossip, stealing, lying and cheating, lust, possession etc etc etc. First of all I counsel my child (whether straight or gay - I got one of each),regarding their treatment of other people and the consequences of any of their behaviors. "According to some, we should welcome them and find out who they are having sex with and welcome them into our homes." I say let's just let them have sex in our homes. After all that's all those homos and gays want to do anyway. "First maybe you would want to ask your child why they feel this way, why they want to act out this way and how old is their partner?" Let's see, she doesn't know why she is attracted to other girls, she just is. I asked the straight one why she is attracted to boys, she says she didn't know, she just is. The gay gals and straight kids that hang out with her are about her age. I try to discourage her dating older women. Unless of course they are rich older women. In my state it is also a crime to have sex with a 16 year old whether you are straight or homosexual. "Second ask yourslef what you would say if your child was having sex with an adult. Would this change your view of their lifestyle.?" I would be concerned if either of my children were having sex with an adult. "What would you say if they said they were seducing/raping younger children" I'd say straight or gay, they belong in jail. That's perverted from any way you look at it. I did notice the last five or ten young girls that have been kidnapped, raped and murdered, had these atrocious acts commited on them by staight, white older males. "And what kind of gay person are they planning to be? There are many types and not all live healthy lifestyles - nor do they want to." DITTO with heterosexuals too, so that question is really invalid. "Are you knowledgeable enough about gay practices to counsel them about the consequences?" Yep, I counsel them both about being promiscuous and what repercussions could occur. Hey the one who is straight can get the same disease and consequences as the one that is gay. Actually the straight one could get pregnant, but I know how that happens, so I did counsel her on that. "Will you ask your child to be celibate until they are an adult? How/will you enforce it?" Will you ask your child to do the same and how will you enforce it? "Would you deny them access to pornography or homoerotic literature so they can better express themselves?" I don't have boys so I don't have to worry about them hiding in the bathroom with girlie magazines. And filling in these questions with your list, doesn't make sense.

sorry not the right link: anyways 3rd grader sticks 19 classmates with mother's diabetes needle. one child tests positive for HIV on preliminary test. things that make you go hmmmmmm.......

This could cause a little hysteria.... UCATION/04/29/needle.stick.ap/index.html

Well sure oldies, if that is what one believes, but not everybody believes that. That is still not proof - some people just think that is a story in a book. Because some believe in evolution etc etc etc. No one side can prove their beliefs as being the right beliefs.

I didn't say anything was proof of homsexuality johniam. As a matter of fact I stated that neither side has any rock-clad proof of their position earlier in a post. From things I have read and seen, in the animal world there does appear to be bi-sexual behavior. Just an observation to include in this thread. Didn't say anything about beastiality (or however you spell it)though.

lust, frustration, alcohol and drugs, yep that is what I have taught my teen..... that,s what made her a lesbian. God thanks Jbarraxx - without your spiritual guidance I would have always wondered that. NOT!!

johniam: why should the burden of proof be on me?? Why not the bible spouter?? Even nature has shown that animals are bisexual. I have a neutered cat that keeps trying to hump the other male. I have nothing to prove to anyone.

Jbaraxx - we should agree to disagree. That is what I teach my children. Obviously you are not going to change your opinion, nor am I. But why you are so hung up on homosexuality, perplexes me. Are you going to get extra rewards in heaven for "taking a stand against homosexuality"? How does this affect your life?? Why is homosexuality a "greater sin" than the ten commandments?? Is it that your children must be protected against such decadence?? Your God is not big enough to protect them from such a sinful nature?? I am glad I have found the spirit of life, as opposed to you that still lives under the letter of the law. I think I shall be more peaceful. Thank you for making that more clear to me by your self-righteous preaching. I am now absolutely sure I wouldn't want to attend church with you. As I am sure you wouldn't want to attend with me either. I guess my family line isn't good enough for your church.

Exactly how do you know that people are not born homosexual? From your Bible?? Show us some real proof and perhaps we would believe. Not man's interpretation.