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  1. Disclaimer: The beginnings of this "homo purge" seem like eons ago......and the facts might be reconstructed by someone with a better memory than mine. I have NO desire to sensationalize it....nor would I swear on a Bible that my memory of 13 years ago is totally accurate. But the following account is what I remember as the "growing seeds" of the infamous "homo purge" in twi. Well, as best I remember....... Several incidents surfaced in a matter of months in 1993/94. One incident involved two girls on HQ staff.....a staffer happened to walk into a Founders Hall bedroom and found two naked girls "between the sheets." Under strict and separate confrontation, the younger apprentice corps girl confessed to this lesbian relationship. And, within days, the older corps grad girl was sent packing to New Jersey. I knew both girls. In the days and months to follow, Martindale yelled and fumed everytime he held a microphone. Another incident surfaced on the field.......two guys got caught "in the act." The limb and region leadership related all this information back to hq. The "genuine suspicion doctrine of lcm" gained momentum. And, another incident at HQ......two guys. One of the guys worked in Transportation and traveled quite a bit. Working the nightshift hours and all, he and this other guy found obscure places on grounds for their homosexual relations. The control room, a small room underneath the hq fountain, was where twi security found them one night......that's the stor-ee that was told to us corps by martindale on a corps teaching. A couple of other incidents on the field surfaced......and throughout mid-1994 thru 1995 the "genuine suspicion" doctrine was in full gear. Homos, pedophiles, feminine-tendencies in men.....all were subject to intense scrutiny UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE BY THE MOG. And......I might add, that on some occasions this genuine suspicion homo-purge "witch hunt" implicated the wrong person and/or the wrong outcome. Like twi is known to be.....all was black or white judgement calls. No middle ground. And, the road back to twi was an intense probationary status. Throughout the spring and summer of 1995, this homo-purge was on top of martindale's agenda. So, for some of us, it came as no surprise that he cancelled the WOW program at the 1995 Rock of Ages. Whether this homo activity took place in tent city during the roa........I don't know. Hope this helps.
  2. An interesting perspective, for sure.......subtle JUSTIFICATION seeping into pfal...??? Hmmmmmm...... :)
  3. Mrs. Wierwille's account in her book DOCUMENTS this "power grab of knowledge" by vpw: p. 99...."There were no charts, no books, no syllabus; just the Bible and a chalkboard. Dr. Wierwille wanted to build that class in a carefully documented scriptural way with a greater understanding of our accumulated learning of the past years." ...."accumulated learning of the past years" [aka...BG Leonard's class] p. 100...."The people who had been part of B.G. Leonard's class on 'The Gifts of the Spirit' were considered graduates and not included in the rosters of Dr. Wierwille's classes." ...some were CONSIDERED GRADUATES [two carloads of friends traveled to Calgary in June 1953...p. 91] There you have it......DOCUMENTED PROOF.....it was the SAME material.
  4. ex......in the interest of sorting out this "tangled mess," here's the way I look at it. .....Yes, wierwille had ambition and a drive to learn more. .....He studied from lots of genuine ministries and compiled a class. .....The class had truth and some error (wheat and tares) growing together. .....I found nourishment from the wheat. .....Whenever I find tares (weeds)....I burn them. .....God and the Lord Jesus were involved in the truth held forth. .....The message of truth has strengthened me. .....Life is in the growing. :)
  5. ex10, I was posting at the same time as you. Ambition is not a bad thing. Fraudulent claims, stealing other's material, and plagerism ARE bad things. Wierwille, a highly educated man, clearly crossed the line........and, I believe, in his own conscience he KNEW IT. To me, it wasn't wierwille's hunger and drive to find deeper truths.......it was "the power grab of knowledge" that would elevate his ministry to "stardom" that's the culprit. Take for instance, the BG Leonard class scenario.......... .....vpw goes to Calgary in February 1953 and sits through BG's class .....vpw and mrs. and don sit thru BG's class in June/July of 1953 .....vpw teaches this class AS HIS OWN in October 1953 (aka: pfal) Later, BG Leonard finds out about this and STARTS COPYRIGHTING ALL HIS MATERIAL. And, why has twi ALWAYS BEEN STRICT ADHERENTS TO COPYRIGHT LAWS...??? Hmmmmm..........
  6. In October of 1996, when I purchased Mrs. Wierwille's book, Born Again to Serve.....I was so busy with the endless meetings and classes in twi that I quickly shelved this book. And, after leaving twi.....the "scales fell from my eyes" and I began to see twi's collective, systematized adulation for victor paul wierwille that was one of their MAJOR cornerstones. The Wierwille roots, the Wierwille family tree, the Wierwille family crest, the Wierwille family's stand on "the word," the Wierwille property, the Wierwille president seal, the Victor Paul Wierwille Prevailing Word Auditorium, the Wierwille homestead, Wierwille Road, and vp wierwille buried at the most prominent spot in the Garden of Living Waters. On and on and on......the wierwille adulation goes. And, sure......I can appreciate that vpw spent decades searching for answers, traveling to seminars, studying other men's work, and conversing with hundreds of other Christian leaders through the years. God can work and direct the path of a man who hungers and thirsts after truth. And yet, this book reveals far more than the doctored-version (no pun intended) of way adulation. In my opinion.....mrs. wierwille's book UPROOTS the ideology and mog status of vpw. It exposes veepee's fraudulent claim of "God teaching him the word like it hadn't been known (yeah, except by other men's ministries) since the first century." The book lays bare vpw's heisting of BG Leonard's class on "The Gifts of the Spirit" and pawning it off as his own in October 1953. And clearly, wierwille studied and plagerized the works of Kenyon, Bullinger and others and incorporated these truths into pfal in the late 60s. The pages of Mrs. Wierwille's book distinctly show that Christians from all walks of life were living epistles of God's grace and goodness. Time and time again, it was NOT the knowledge....but the love of God in application that healed or delivered one afflicted with bondage, pain or suffering. The grace of God abounds in all facets of life to those who love the Lord. In the end, knowledge puffeth up......and love edifies. My deep thanks to Mrs. Wierwille for writing this book and setting forth twi's history that CANNOT be re-written by current twi leadership. :)
  7. TLB.....no, I never heard different recollections from the wierwille kids. But, of course, that isn't surprising.....too much information to catalogue, too much happening at the present time, too much questioning wasn't a good thing.
  8. dek, Twi's ongoing practice of M&A is cruel and provoking......and the harrassing calls from the state and branch coordinators is a revealing truth of the system's wickedness. Glad to know that you are enjoying your freedom. This place is a GREAT PLACE to de-waybrain...!!!
  9. WW.......I seriously doubt the "snow-revelation" incident also. Just too many discrepancies like..... ......no evidence of a snowstorm/blizzard ......never seen a "black blizzard" and I've seen quite a few blizzard conditions ......wierwille held this information secret for some 30 years........doubt it. ......wierwille's response is TOO FULL OF EGO for God to perform this.....imo ......wierwille tells of this "constructed" incident to a wide-eyed corps behind closed doors. ......no witnesses.............NOT ONE. Same thing with Mrs. Wierwille's book..... ......HER view and opinions are vastly different from Mr. Wierwille. ......HER humility comes across.....wierwille's ego surfaces regularly. ......HER recollections are TOTALLY DIFFERENT than wierwille's boastful claims. ......HER views give perspectives to family, children, culture, Christian leaders, learning from others. Was there a deeper reason why VOLUME 2 never was published...?? Or, after this 1996 book was it just too much for Mrs. Wierwille to tackle in her golden years...??
  10. dek.....thanks, and hope all is going well for you. It's good to be away from the clutches of twi and all the hoop-jumping. Not sure if you are talking current policy..........BUT what you described is the SAME POLICY that has been in place since at least 1996. As a branch coordinator, I had a couple of people who were to be shunned by our branch and had to write weekly letters and such. And, back then.....10 YEARS AGO.....lcm taught us on a corps teaching that to allow these "probationary people" to abs was an extension of the mog's grace to keep the adversary from totally gaining access to their lives. Sick doctrines in twi.
  11. I would also add that the emporia campus and rome city campus became spiritual liabilities......i.e. it raised lots of questions about empty "training centers" and all. It was embarrassing.....and the bod fumbled all over themselves trying to cover for it.
  12. WW......not sure I have time to give a thorough format. :) Here is a listing of the contents: Preface / 1 Acknowledgements / 3 Family History / 4 Family Crest / 6 Childhood / 7 Life on the Farm / 12 High School Years / 16 Early Influences / 18 Mission House College / 23 Our Wedding / 27 Graduate Schools / 30 First Congregation / 33 Moving to Van Wert / 45 E. Stanley Jones / 48 Rufus Moseley / 52 Perry Hayden / 55 Glenn Clark / 56 Doctor of Theology Degree / 67 Hobbies / 68 The Power of Prayer / 74 E. W. Kenyon / 76 Foreign Missions / 77 Receiving the Holy Spirit / 78 Starr Daily / 82 Tenth Anniversary / 84 Mary's Healing / 87 B. G. Leonard / 90 Albert Cliffe / 94 Bishop K.C. Pillai / 96 Power for Abundant Living / 99 E. W. Bullinger / 102 Seeds of The Way Corps / 105 Preparation to Go Abroad / 107 England / 119 Welcome to India / 125 Bible Lands / 175 Europe / 189 Return to the U.S.A. / 202 George M. Lamsa / 212 International Outreach / 214 A New Headquarters / 219 Nurturing Growth / 221 A Permanent Headquarters / 232 Remodeling at the Farm / 248 A Diamond Club / 254 John Noble / 263 Moving Day / 264 Books by Victor Paul Wierwille / 269 About the Author / 271
  13. According to Mrs. Wierwille's book, there is a long list of men and women who significantly taught and influenced her husband.....one of the most profound being Rev. B.G. Leonard. Rev. B. G. Leonard p. 90 "Ever since the Divine Healing Convention in Tulsa in December 1951, and since Rev. B.G. Leonard prayed with us for Mary's healing over the phone in December 1952, Dr. Wierwille's hunger for more knowledge about God's healing power was piqued. In late winter, February 1953, Dr. Wierwille felt the need to spend time with B.G. Leonard..... "B.G. Leonard called his work in Calgary 'The Christian Training Centre.' Dr. Wierwille described his first impressions there: "I walked in and B.G. was in the middle of announcements. They must have lasted an hour and a half. Then he took his violin and played hymns for a while. When he finally started preaching, he taught his heart out for another hour and a half. Then everyone left and I sat there. He said, 'I thought I told you that you couldn't come.' And I said, 'Yeah, but I didn't hear you.' " In June of 1953, four months after Dr. Wierwille's initial trip, our family traveled with two other carloads of our friends to Calgary to take B.G. Leonard's class which he called "The Gifts of the Spirit." At his Christian Training Centre, a large upstairs room over a pawnshop, our son Don and I were students in this class from June 28 to July 15. Dr. Wierwille was with us, but of course, he was not a new student, though he wanted to sit through the class again because what B.G. Leonard was teaching was so thrilling and powerful about the "gifts" of holy spirit and about spiritual healing." p. 99...."In October 1953, Dr. Wierwille taught the first Power for Abundant Living class, which was held in the basement of St. Peter's Church. The first two classes were called "Receiving the Holy Spirit Today." The name was then changed to the broader title......" ***** B.G. Leonard and his work were FOUNDATIONAL to wierwille's class setup and emphasis.
  14. In June of 1944, the Wierwille family left the Payne church, with approximately 120 members, and moved to the St. Peter's Evangelical and Reformed Church in Van Wert which had 16 on the active membership list. In Mrs. Wierwille's book, Born Again to Serve, many Christian men are noted to help Rev. Wierwille with his search for answers. Listed below are highlighted excerpts from the book. E. Stanley Jones p. 48 "Rev. Wierwille had made plans to go to the E. Stanley Jones Ashram (as he called his religious retreats) at Salisbury, North Carolina, the latter part of that July 1944. Since there was gas rationing because of World War II, rides had to be shared. So Rev. Wierwille rode with three other people from northwestern Ohio to North Carolina. Later Rev. Wierwille said of E. Stanley Jones, "I considered him a wonderful friend. I learned a great deal from him and I liked him very much. But I began to grow and develop not only to enjoy intellectualism but also the heart and love which I picked up from Rufus Moseley, Starr Daily, and Glenn Clark." Rufus Moseley p. 52 "One of the main speakers of the 1944 Ashram in North Carolina was a spirit-filled man whom I mentioned previously, Rufus Moseley. Brother Rufus, as everyone called him, a retired professor by that time, literally jumped for joy as he taught.... His teachings were so simple yet so dynamic. 'When we are born from above through faith that causes us to receive Him, we are born of His nature, of His love, of His Word, of His seed, and are given power to become like Him.' Also, 'We're made for the highest and nothing short of His best for us, and our best for Him, for all can satisfy us....So centralize on Jesus and his way of life as perfect union, perfect love, and perfect joyous obedience and you get these and you get everything.' He wrote in his book Perfect Everything, 'Many are tempted to believe that everything man needs is within himself, that all he needs to know are the laws of mind....and no need for a personal God or savior....We must be wise enough to be taught and led by the Holy Spirit.'" Perry Hayden p. 55 "In his search for Christians with a dynamic knowledge of God, Rev. Wierwille somehow heard of Perry Hayden, a Quaker miller from Tecumseh, Michigan, who was inspired by a message in his Quaker church and set out to illustrate some of the Bible lessons on "tithing," "rebirth," and "returns on what you sow." As quickly as arrangements could be made, Rev. Wierwille invited Perry to come from Michigan to visit our church and tell us about his [tithing] experiment." Glenn Clark p. 56 "Having attended the Camp Farthest Out in the summer of 1945 at Lake Koronis in Minnesota, Rev. Wierwille invited the camp's founder, Glenn Clark to come to speak and teach us in 1946... "Because of his dream of 'going farther out spiritually.' Glenn developed the concept of the Camps Farthest Out. His first experimental camp was held at Camp Koronis in Minnesota, in 1931... "We thought Glenn Clark's Camps Farthest Out was the best design in camps that we had ever seen. And so we have used many of the C.F.O. principles and activities in The Way Family Camps at Camp Gunnison--The Way Family Ranch in Colorado." E.W. Kenyon p. 76 "E.W. Kenyon (1857-1948) was another man whose dynamic writings had a great impact on Dr. Wierwille's life. Kenyon was a man who had a great thirst for a knowledge of God. And what he learned, he was diligent to pass on to others..........by studying Kenyon's writings, Dr. Wierwille was able to teach more of the accuracy of God's Word." "Kenyon's one fixed goal was: "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needed not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth" (II Timothy 2:15). Dr. Wierwille enthusiastically promoted Kenyon's writings: The Blood Covenant, The Two Kinds of Faith, The Two Kinds of Knowledge, Identification, and Jesus the Healer, to mention some of them. These were valuable sources of inspiration for himself personally and in his teaching ministry." ***** More to follow
  15. Page 42, 43 "Rev. Wierwille said the following of his days in Payne: After all this activity and reaching out to learn more, I must know to satisy my inner yearning. And so I stood in my newly rented office and prayed to the Father. "Father, teach me the Word, teach me the Word." He told me as plain as day that if I would study the Word, He would teach me the Word like He had not been able to teach it to anybody since the first century. And, of course, at that time I thought, "Now that's a dandy. Boy, if I learned this Word of God, everybody will listen to me. The whole church will be blessed; my denomination will grow by leaps and bounds because we'll have the Word of God." And I thought that was terrrific. But during the process of that revelation, I said, "Father, how will I know that this is You and that You'll really teach it to me? Because I had worked the Word in commentaries and the rest of it, and I couldn't understand it, couldn't get it to fit. And the sun was shining brightly. It was in the fall of the year. Gorgeous. There wasn't a cloud in the sky. And just on the inside of me it seemed to say, "Well, just say to the Father, "Well, if it'll just snow right now, you'll just know that this is God talking to you.'" Cause you see. I'd never had much experience with God's talking to me. And this business of His saying to me, just as audibly as I am speaking to you, that He'd teach me the Word if I'd teach it, sort of shook me. I'd been expecting to hear from heaven for a long time, but I hadn't heard that way before. Oh, my ears were perhaps clogged up. Since that time I've heard a lot of things from Him. And I said, "Lord, to know that this is true, I'd like to see it snow." And I opened my eyes, and it was pitch-black, almost pitch-black outside, and the snow was falling so thick. I have never seen it fall that thick since that day. And I sat in that little office, and I cried like a baby. Because I guess it was about my time to cry because I'd grown up but I didn't know the Word. And from that day on since He promised He'd teach me the Word, I have tried with all my heart to learn this Word. Rev. Wierwille never told anyone of this experience until much later when he was teaching The Way Corps. It was a most astounding phenomenon which he kept to himself. ***** Boy, if I learned this Word of God, everybody will listen to ME....!!! There you have it folks.....from vpw's own words.....his FIRST RESPONSE to hearing this. EVERYBODY.......WILL.......LISTEN.......TO.......ME.
  16. Page 41 "Beginning with a radio broadcast on Saturday, October 3, 1942, Rev. Wierwille and his assembled youth group performed their first live radio production. Rev. Wierwille certainly didn't realize at the time that this program would launch a ministry which would change the lives of thousands. His first radio program was designed to teach principles of the abundant life "through musical performancs and scriptural messages." Dr. Wierwille later said, "I felt we had to do something to bless the people, and a radio broadcast might arouse some excitement and serve as outreach." The personal impact of such regular teaching and preaching, Dr. Wierwille explained, "was that it got me back to digging the Word.... That broadcast and the Sunday morning service made me, made me, go to the Word for two or three new teachings a week. It got me into the Word, got me growing in it and kept me fluid. "We were pioneers in using people for our performances," he continued. "All of the other religious programs used adults. But I thought if we started with young people, it would grow into something and the adults might catch on." [Pictured in the first broadcast of Vesper Chimes.......One man, one young female pianist, three young female singers and Mrs. Wierwille.]
  17. More to ponder.......page 38 of Born Again to Serve. "Rev. Wierwille visited the Higley Press frequently for fellowship with the people there. In later years he said, "If you want to improve in a sport, play with someone better than you"; so he also fellowshipped with people from whom he might learn. "Robert Higley, having learned of my academic background and my ability of researching certain subjects, asked me to be a contributing editor for the Christian Action magazine [which the Higley Press published]. This opportunity I gladly accepted, and the venture proved fruitful." It was also at this press that Rev. Wierwille met Rosalind Rinker, a former missionary to China and Korea, now devoting her time conducting Christian Action evangelistic meetings. Rev. Wierwille brought Rosalind to our home near the end of the summer. We met with her privately, along with two high school girls who helped Rev. Wierwille by cleaning his office and doing some typing for him after school every day. Rosalind taught us, among other things, that we needed to read the Bible rather than read around it. This idea seemed somewhat radical to a highly read, highly educated young man. She then further suggested, "Why don't you search for the greatest of all things in life which would teach Christian believers the how of a really victorious life?" He took her advice and began studying the Word more diligently. The contacts we made at Higley Press and the Winona Lake Conference were central to our spiritual growth. there we heard dynamic speakers at the Christian Action Conferences, such as R. G. Le Tourneau, a very progressive businessman who literally believed God's promises of prosperity in tithing, and Homer Rodeheaver, who had at one time been soloist for the famous evangelist Billy Sunday. Homer Rodeheaver was a great promoter of outstanding Christian music, singing with a great voice or playing a trumpet as he led tremendous audience singing. Another evangelist who had inspired Rev. Wierwille with his great musical ability was Rev. Charles Fuller. Rev. Wierwille had stated, "I listened to Charles Fuller's radio program, 'The Old-Fashioned Revival Hour,' every Sunday morning before I went to church or to my office. He inspired me so with his music. He was an evangelist who had great charisma, great ability, and one of the first preachers involved in radio. Rev. Fuller was such a humble man and wanted to bless people. Why wouldn't the spirit of God work within him? It did." Rev. Wierwille and I grew with our little congregation as we visited and became more personally acquainted with them: meeting their families, their children in college, understanding family relationships and backgrounds. Rev. Wierwille always spoke of our church as "The church with the open door and the open Bible." ***** Rosalind taught us, among other things, that we needed to READ THE BIBLE rather than read around it..........................an amazing, simple truth!!! In progressive order, it seems that Charles Fuller's radio program, "The Old-Fashioned Revival Hour".......was the original inspiration for vpw's "Vesper Chimes," shortly thereafter renamed "The Chimes Hour Youth Caravan.
  18. A la....... :) Or, was vpw "fishing for a following" by starting the newspaper column? Also, if July 23, 1942 was Rev. Wierwille's first outreach attempt beyond his congregation.......why isn't THAT DATE used to mark the beginning of wierwille's ministry? Or,......the first time vpw THOUGHT about outreach outside the pail of his congregation???
  19. According to Mrs. Wierwille's book that was compiled from The Way's historical files......the following on page 36 & 37 gives insight of vpw's character and initial desires to break away from his congregation. ***** "After our move into the new parsonage, Rev. Wierwille found a room a block away from the church, formerly a dentist's office, which he rented and made into his office/study. Not a particularly patient young minister, he got pretty discouraged by not knowing how to handle various challenges within the congregation. At one time he told me that he was ready to quit the ministry if he didn't learn how to handle these seemingly helpless situations. Something seemed to be lacking in answer to prayers. "I'd had the best education money could buy; but with all that I knew, I just could not help people. I was discouraged the first year in the ministry, 1941-42. I thought, 'Had my dad spent all that money to educate a fool?' I prayed a great deal about it. Even then I was discouraged with my life. The principles of the ministry bothered me. The shallowness bothered me." The annual Paulding County Sunday School Convention was held Friday evening, September 5, and Sunday afternoon and evening, September 7, 1941, at our church in Payne. These three meetings were set "to worship, receive inspiration for daily living, and acquire information about the unique place religious education holds in the proper training for your son or daughter and its importance for your own spiritual growth." At this same time Rev. Wierwille introduced a Bible study and teacher-training course which he taught. The purpose was to "bring to hand every element required to build up knowledge, aquaint you with methods, and supply inspiration for dealing with the problems that confront teachers and workers." Rev. Wierwille's outreach beyond the congregation then began on July 23, 1942, with a column called "Religion in the Weekly" in the local weekly newspaper, The Payne Reflector. He wrote, "The aim in this is a column written for your enjoyment, edification and growth in matters pertaining to the spiritual advancement of your personality." He expected to see some results, so he closed his first article with this statement: "We are anxious to hear from you and your respsonse will help to determine the value of this column to your own life and the well-being of your community." During this period Rev. Wierwille was doing much searching......" ***** In vpw's first year as pastorate of a church, he ALREADY is discouraged............???? ......the principles of the ministry bothered him....???? ......the shallowness bothered him....???? ......and he's looking for ways of outreach beyond his congregation....????
  20. rascal......I hear what you're saying. At best, the sins of twi leaders is best described in Romans 6.... .....shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound. God forbid. .....we are buried with him in baptism into death....should walk in newness of life. .....likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin....alive unto God thru JC our lord. .....let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. .....what fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death. Were vpw, lcm, cgeer and others ashamed of those things? those sins? Apparently not! At worse, yes those folks were/are false prophets, wolves in sheeps clothing and need to be AVOIDED. There is strong evidence that these twi leaders LED PEOPLE AWAY from the truth to follow the doctrines of men. Their fruit brought them shame.......and destruction to many.
  21. Patriot, As I understand it from the Scriptures.......mark & avoid was utilized as a bibilcal concept in very extreme cases to protect the believers from evil seducers. A rarity, for sure. And then, one was "turned over to Satan" for the destruction of the flesh (or something like that). First of all, twi grossly misapplied the m/a concept......and secondly, twi used it as a WEAPON OF CONTROL, to stop the flow of information and to instill fear. Clearly, twi uses biblical concepts to further their agendas......but, the boundaries and the application of mark/avoid are unsound. Yes, twi was OFF THE WORD while m/a people to silence twi's evil doings.......and simply continue that pattern by denying this widely-used concept in the 1990s. Twi is re-writing their history.......................................AGAIN.
  22. Yeah, Chas.......that was the annual Masters Tournament in Athens, GA. Not only did lcm mind rubbing elbows "with the worker ants".......he also rubbed elbows with those unsanctified, worldly people throughout those four days. My, oh my........he gushed all over himself trying to find something noteworthy to teach us about his "worldly experience" and how it benefited him. Seems that he really learned alot about "attention to detail"........the flower beds were immaculately kept, the grass was manicured to perfection.''
  23. Three kids. As best I recall, the kids are 6 years apart. Oldest girl...........Lxxx is 27 years old (??) Middle boy...........Txx is 21 years old (??) Youngest girl........Dxxxxxx Gxxxx is 15 years old (??) The youngest would still be in New Knoxville High School.
  24. Maybe DM is simply waiting for her youngest daughter ( 15 or 16 years old....??? ) to finish high school in the New Knoxville area? From all that I've observed, DM is very methodical in her choices and rarily takes any "leaps of faith" or bold moves outside the shadows of twi.
  25. Also.......we are talking about a man who, supposedly, immersed himself in the scriptures for decades and was self-proclaimed to be "the teacher." Heck......he was 51 years old when piffle was filmed and the last 17 years of his life were filled with adultery, scandal, venomous anger, covetousness, idolatry, etc. Many of those who closely served him in the 70s, early 80s........the Ambassador One pilot, Jxhn Rxce and a couple of veepee's aides left him....... and exited twi. On 3 separate occasions......I personally witnessed a deep-seated, venomous anger from Wierwille that was tantamount of soul-stripping every last shred of one's dignity. Each of these three individuals suffered a public, verbal lashing that was completely beyond the scope of "reproof." These incidents incited fear and strict compliance to the mog's agenda and "attitude towards the word." Narcissism would be the most apt description of the behavior of wierwille. Wierwille's moral compass went awry when it no longer pivoted on the life and ministry of the Lord Jesus Christ. And, having forsaken his "north star".....wierwille lost "his way" on the vast oceans of doubt and seas of speculation.
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