GrouchoMarxJr

I checked out your link...it works just fine... I'm so glad that Vic prayed over that place and chased the devils out.... ...we see the fruit today...or should I say the 11th?...ha ha ha

I think it's funny that the auction inventory sounds a lot like everything twi had there... What did they do?...cut and run and leave all their stuff behind? Ha ha ha It's all part of circling the wagons...If I were Rosie, I would sell off that god awful property in Ohio and move the whole shebang to Gunnison...and simply retire. All she is doing now is meeting the legal requirments for the IRS to maintain their tax exempt status. I would suspect as they grow even older, they would downsize more...the days of having any "vision"...are long dead.

Yeah...isn't it ironic that once the Vicster croaked, everything fragmented and the scramble was on...Geerm played his cards and so did Lynn, Finnegan, and a host of others... They did what they were taught to do...market God for money. Ever see Walter Cummin's website?...he sells "research papers" for about $250 bucks a pop! They all became kings of their own kingdoms...that's probably why they don't all unite... They could never decide who would be number one...

Thank you Lizzy, To have known Rumrunner as I did was a real priviledge for me... He was my best friend for 50 years and I still have not absorbed his loss... It's profound to say the least...

Check this out...have you heard of Geer's newsletter called "considerations"? I read this and concluded that Geer was the ultimate Wierwwile clone...he is off the deep end...IMHO http://www.greasespotcafe.com/main2/waydale/waydale-miscellaneous/chris-geer-explains-what-happened-in-the-way-via-his-considerations-newsletter_4.html

Texas also has quite a Geer following...Their home fellowships run exactly the same way as twi did it... ...with one notable exception...they are totally mechanical, lifeless and boring...even more so than the worst twig in twi that I ever attended...and Geer remains like a ghost...nobody ever sees him because he sells franchises...He knows he doesn't have the personality to pull it off...so he doesn't even try...he just sells books and tapes...and also collects abs money...imagine that... ...and anybody that follows him or supports him can kiss my arse.

I would guess that he probably still rakes in a pretty good buck...but then again I could be wrong abd he;s living hand to mouth (one can only hope)...

Not to break the "mood"....but here's one that "some" of you might enjoy... When I watched this, I think I might have had a "flashback"...lol. IMHO...great music!

I agree 100% with Sunesis...I think Wierwille was a master con man...it's questionable whether he was even a Christian. He certainly fits the biblical description of a false prophet A drunkard, a liar and a womanizer...he had absolutely no regard for anyone except himself.

Sometimes the hardest decisions in life are knowing which bridges to burn and which bridges to cross... AS far as twi goes...when I made my decision to walk away...I never looked back, I never felt any regret at all...none. I knew they were screwed up...it was liberating... As far as the "Christ in you"...I think of that like eating a big mac...the big mac becomes part of you...not the opposite...Like Popeye said...I yam who I yam...

Yeah...I would guess that he actually is...Ummm, sorry Chris...just joking. ...but don't expect me to pay any money for the recycled crapola you're selling.

What do you think?...Does Geer read this? I'll bet he does...I mean, there's nobody else talking about him...If he searches the internet for his name...this is about it. His ego wouldn't allow him to NOT read this...I remember you Geer...you were a nutcase then and you are still a nutcase...

...So c'mon folks...let's have a little fun here. Who's got some good Geer stories?... or perhaps you'd just like to vent on your experiences with this lowlife. Speak up...it's your keyboard.

This thread has been somewhat dormant for awhile...so I thought I would try to kick it back into "Geer" I think that people are missing a real opprotunity to call bull sh *t on a real scumbag. Chris Geer is STILL in operation and making money like his father in the scam taught him... I always thought of Martindale as a buffoon...but Geer always scared me. He had a look in his eyes that said psychopath...I could see him as a high ranking officer in Hitler's third reich. Lynn publicly humiliates himself with his continual public dramas, while Geer silently sits in the background selling his merchandise through franchises...never making public appearances...simply counting his money in the back room.

When someone borrows a hundred dollars from you because they blew their money in a bar... that person is in debt...when you have payments on a house, you are not really in debt...you are merely buying something with payments...it's an investment that you gain equity in. Isn't that the same thing as corps tuition?...Twi collects the money in payments every month so you can stay in the corps. So what's the difference? I would have to say that, by their own logic, a person is violating the "being in debt" the moment they enter the corps and start making monthly payments...

Wierwille taught that it's "Christ in you, the hope of glory"...he also taught that we are righteous in the eyes of God, justified, sanctified, etc.... ...and then they proceeded to humiliate their followers with face meltings and wild accusations... I say that they did not believe their own teachings.

...I think that the vast number of way followers led lives like gypsies...I'm talking about the rank and file "twig attenders" who were talked into going wow...thousands of people took on the lifestyle of a gypsie...and then the corps and all the moving around... People gave up promising careers because of this farce... ...transients...gypsies, "would you like fries with that sir?"...no stability...no debt... no planting roots...no life... The twi lifestyle is a dead end street...it's all about them and nothing about you.

The part that I found most disturbing was the fact that people were REQUIRED to disclose their personal financial situation to twi. Teach what they may, they had no right to stick their noses in people's private business. How many other churches do this? I left before this "policy" became strict law...but while I was in, I always told twi leadership that my personal financial situation was none of their business.

I truly believe that any "vision" that twi once had is long dead...They are a bunch of decrepit has beens and wanna be's... ...Their only goal is to maintain their tax exempt status with the IRS and continue to live off the assets. There is no more excitement or enthusiasm to "turn the world upside down"...today, all they want to do is keep the trains running on time and live well. They have circled the wagons of self interest and are now nothing more than fleeting shadows in a world of religious hypocracy.

Isn't that the way Martindale did it?

ugly woman.bmp

Every once in awhile, twi would announce a "correction" on some minor point... ...it was simply a pretense to "demonstrate" to all of us that they indeed were a "research" "ministry"...It was all part of the dog and pony show...in reality, all they wanted was for the money to keep rolling in.

Unbeleivable... http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DQvvDwXg5ekY&h=4fee9

...Joking aside...I do not believe that truth is found through man made religions. Knowing Him is only done on a personal basis. I believe that Jesus spoke against the religious leaders of his time. He spoke of their hearts being far from Him... I have nothing against folks "fellowshipping together" and sharing their common faith encouraging one another, etc...BUT it can only be real when it's done on a personal basis first...at least that makes some sense to me.