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I totally agree with this, whether it be science, social issues or antique restoration techniques. But, once that's established, I try not to get too hung up on insisting the "correct" terminology is always used unless it will really make some kind of difference. The new cringe for me is when people talk about "sex reveal" parties. HUH?? I know they're talking about revealing whether the baby is going to be a boy or girl. I go with the flow on that one. Maybe ask the other person to clarify how they are using the terminology?
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Words and language, in general, change over time, as I'm sure we're all aware. Years ago, gender was used as a noun and sex was used to imply a verbal action. (for the most part.) It wasn't judgmental, just a statement of fact. For example, if a baby was born anatomically male, it was said that its GENDER was male. If it was born anatomically female, its GENDER was female. SEX was a physical act that sometimes had the potential of producing a baby. Of course, I realize this is an over simplification, as there is also the possibility of same sex relations, but it still implies an action. And, there are babies that are born with a combination of male and female reproductive structures. We once called them HERMAPHRODITES. That term is obsolete and has been replaced with INTERSEX. Sometimes the structural differences are externally visible. Sometimes they are internal and, thus, not visibly obvious. At times, it's difficult to make a proper identification either way at birth. Doctors would sometimes surgically alter such children to appear to have only one gender. Frequently, surgeons would elect to render them female because that surgery is less involved. That can have catastrophic results later in life because the surgeon may have misidentified the child's actual gender. Today, with advanced genetic knowledge, we have more sophisticated methods of determining actual gender than we did in times past. And, there are multiple other scenarios possible, as well. Okay, I've gotten too far off the subject here. The rule I try to follow, when discussing such issues with people, is to listen closely and adapt my terminology to the other person's terminology. If they're really talking about a person's gender but refer to it as sex, I try to do the same. It makes for more productive conversation.
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On 5/11/2023, Charity said: ...the best thing I learned from being on GSC was that I'm not alone and neither are you.
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Straight out of the Advanced class. (Please don't make me look up the page number, I'm having a good day so far.)
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"You just stand, Baby! Don't budge."
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Posting here and realizing that my experience was not unique has been a cathartic experience for me.
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Why am I suddenly flashing back to Hogan's Heroes? "I know NOTHING!"
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If you wanted it emphasized, you should have done so yourself. I'm not your personal editor.
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My experience has been mostly contrary to this. Emphasis seems to lean heavily on the side of examining the epistles, rather than the gospels..
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Giving him the benefit of a doubt seems mighty generous on your part.
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I think it may have been Garth (may he R.I.P.) who gave account of personal involvement in the cancelled visit to his area. I'm not certain, but that seems to be what I recall.
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Lies often fall apart due to discrepancies in details.
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Posted April 29, 2020 by WordWolf Every now and again, someone still claims that pfal and twi were special. Their reason for this is the claim that vpw was special. Their reason for this is the 1942 promise. vpw claimed he received a promise from God Almighty in 1942, and he used this claim to justify thinking of "his" books and classes to akin to the Bible itself. The supposition that pfal was of significant long-term benefit hangs primarily on the alleged "1942 promise." That promise, as stated by vpw, was that God spoke audibly to vpw, and promised that God Almighty would teach vpw God's Word ;like it hadn't been known since the first century (AD) if vpw would teach it to others. vpw supposedly asked God to confirm this by a miraculous snowstorm. Word Wolf posted this on April 29, 2020 All right, how many ways can we show this 1942 promise failed? We've done it lots of times before, this is mostly compilation. A) The miraculous snowstorm never happened. There was NO report of actual snow anywhere near where this allegedly happened. When it supposedly happened, he didn't even tell his own wife it happened. Come on, that would have been the first words out of any spouse's mouth that evening. ("Honey, you'll never believe what happened to me today...") He never claimed it until decades later. He couldn't keep the details of the miraculous event straight, even. When he first began making this claim, he said the sky looked BLACK with all the heavy snow. This, BTW, isn't what it looks like for even the heaviest snow. Later-probably because he learned that doesn't happen- he switched to saying the sky was WHITE with snow. I'm sure details can get lost over time, but if a miraculous event that turns the sky all one color, you'd at least remember the color. Finally, this wasn't the only time vpw claimed a miraculous snowstorm. In fact, he did it whenever it was convenient. When he added special significance to the minister's conference where he met Stiles, vpw claimed that the entire city was snowed in completely. He was unable to get out because planes, trains and buses were all stopped due to heavy snow conditions, a blizzard. This was a rather big lie, and one that was checkable. When someone spoke to him about it, he didn't say "I was there and saw the snow and walked in it, check again", he immediately switched his story to prevent trying to contradict the weather report. He immediately began claiming the snow was an angelic apparition- angels made him see snow that wasn't there, and when he phoned transit places, angels answered the phone and lied to him. (He would rather have us think angels lied than that he lied.) In reality, not even a single FLAKE fell from the sky in that city that day, and the temperature didn't reach freezing. This wasn't the last time vpw made up a convenient snowstorm, even. A poster here once noted that vpw was supposed to visit their area. Instead, he phoned and said that he WANTED to fly there, but he was located at a bad snowstorm and he was told it was unsafe. The poster checked the weather in vpw's area at the time, and there was neither snow nor storms predicted. So, the entire snow part was a lie. Without that, there's no 1942 promise. However, even if it was possible for there to have been a snowstorm (it's not possible), the other problems with his story would be enough to discredit it. There WAS no 1942 promise. vpw was NEVER some great one. pfal was NEVER some great class nor great study materials. It was all built up as a con-and not the most secure con, either. It needed lots of outside help to prop it up.
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If the story did not originate with him, he certainly had ample opportunity to refute it.
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If I remember correctly, there is another snowstorm story where the sky is described as being pitch black. I think that one involves flights in and out of an airport (Tulsa, maybe?) being cancelled.
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"OK, we'll take you back, if that's what you want, but you'll need you to drop down, parallel with the floor, and give me 50." NEEDS AND WANTS PARALLEL.
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I remember the days of Fig Pep and familia. Not all memories are equal.
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In my early, zealous days of Way involvement, I tried to pitch the idea of putting PFAL materials in public libraries. Yeah, that went over like a fart in church choir.
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Threatening to terminate the Corps was a hollow, phony threat used to elicit loyalty. The same exact tactic was used in FellowLaborers. (I was there.) Terminating the WoW program, on the other hand, would have been a monumentally stupid business decision. I mean, why on earth would you ever terminate an entire salesforce that was working without salary or commission?
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You completely missed the point, Mike. Or, was that done intentionally to shift the blame?
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Blame the Corps! It's all the Corp's fault! Well, here's a news flash. The Corps didn't invent itself. It was the creation of one Victor Paul Wierwille. It was his brainchild. Without him, it would have simply never existed.
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It doesn't really matter what word you use, whether it be parallel, balanced, synchronized, aligned or whatever. The essence of the problem is that it's a flawed, erroneous concept. It also doesn't matter that we can never know what was or wasn't in Wierwille's heart. What we do know is that his atrocious behavior and promotion of an aberrant doctrinal brought about immeasurable damage to thousands of trusting individuals. Lives were damaged, some beyond repair. Some met an even worse, permanent fate and will never get a second chance. This is not a game. It's a chance to either set the record straight or be complicit in the furtherance of a travesty.