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Why was he in the garden? Maybe he was waiting for a bus. All that slithering can make a fella tired.

Thanks, Seth. I'm enjoying this.

Roy I don't think the chat room is functional anymore. I haven't been able to get into it for a long time. (years)

I'm doing my part to create an environment that is conducive to learning for the youngsters in our area.

THIS author has penned several works related to the subject, though I haven't personally read any of them.

There are common themes that run through all genres of mythology, such as resurrection, afterlife, nemeses, etc. Seth recently started a thread related to this subject in the open forum. (HERE) Perhaps the answer lies in another religion's version of the event. Of course, one must "get passed" the idea of inerrancy when contemplating such materials.

.....it all has to fit like a hand in a glove. What kind of glove...a surgical glove, a welding glove, a baseball glove, a snow mitten?

"Most of the privileges and responsibilities of adulthood are legally granted by the age of 18. That's when you can vote, enlist in the military, move out on your own, but is that the true age of maturity? A growing body of science says, no. That critical parts of the brain involved in decision-making are not fully developed until years later at age 25 or so." SOURCE

Festinger theorized that the mind does not like to entertain two conflicting ideas at the same time. If the ideas are too greatly in conflict with each other, cognitive dissonance will be the result. The mind will invent a sort of compromised melding of the two. This understanding the difficult in light of the simpler seems like a variation of the same basic concept.

I just listened to a snip of the Moyers show. Very interesting. I'm definitely going to check it out in greater detail as time permits. I think resistance to this sort of thinking ("Having done all, STAND!") sorely deprives the fundamentalist/advocate-of-inerrancy of an opportunity to explore new and maybe greater horizons.

It cannot hear because my words are all carried away.

Said the straight man to the late man "Where have you been?" I've been here and I've been there and I've been in between. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kVNl-9cS9c

I'm not finding any such reference on this thread, other than yours. So, I pose the question again....earned much more WHAT?

Show of hands, please....Who here really gave a rat's patootie about how many were crucified with Christ before VPW told you should?

"...earned much more." Much more WHAT?

Wierwille's "doctrine" was not so much about how many were crucified with Christ as it was about the lifestyle he promoted. To some degree, the two are intertwined. For example, his use of Darby's administrations/dispensations (doctrine) allowed for an excuse to act (lifestyle) in a manner that is contrary to the overall body of scriptures that most Christians hold in high regard. Likewise with his "law of believing". It's a doctrine, true, but the real danger lies in the kind of lifestyle it promotes. There are plenty more examples of this same kind of thing. Had PFAL not promoted a particular, unorthodox kind of lifestyle, it would have faded into history rather quickly, as merely another Bible class, lost among the millions that came before and after it. This same lifestyle is what persists to this day. If you haven't seen it, you probably haven't been on facebook lately, where ex-Way followers continue to hype and promote it.

It just sounds like a bunch of Darby dogma, restated. No offense intended.

Change a few of the names and .....voilà! Snow on the gas pumps all over again.

Cute. Not sure what it has to do with the topic but....cute.

Maybe "it" is the ability to evoke deep emotional response from fellow human type creatures. That's just a guess on my part, though.

They still have "it". (I'm not really sure what "it" is but they've got it.)

Hmmmm....sounds like a bad case of Déjà Vic.

".....and having done all, do WHAT, class?" "Move beyond Wierwille!!" "Dat's riiiight!"

You didn't imagine it.

Remember PFAL? You know, the class that was soooo important, we had to make sure everyone in the world sat through it? The one people literally died trying to promote? Yeah, that one. Even it's in mothballs now....Not that I'm complaining about that, mind you.