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Geeze! I haven't seen a straw man that was nearly this flamboyant in quite a long while.

Even if you wanted to contact them, (I don't) how would you do it? They hide behind the corn stalks in Podunk, Ohio. You need special permission to even attend their "church services" which are held in a big old building where, supposedly, "all are welcome".

If they are still teaching that Way followers are a special, superior breed of human that can conjure up special powers to exact physical change through magical thinking, I would be inclined to say they haven't changed.

Oh, I think quite a few ladies here can "understand" that. You don't have to look too far to find first-hand testimony of TWI related rape victims here. Re: pedophiles Did this "kinder, gentler" organization bother to tell you that they have a documented history of moving offenders from one location to another to avoid detection, much the way the Catholic Church has been doing for quite some time?

Sooooooo----from this post, it is obvious you have seen things being done in The Way with which you disagreed. But, you didn't rock the boat because you knew there would be undesirable, personal consequences. And, you feel somewhat powerless because you lack the rank to wield any clout that would result in change. Please tell me again how this describes a "kinder, gentler" organization.

The Way is an MLM, a multi-level-marketing organization that hides behind a thinly cloaked veneer of religiosity. That's what it has always been and will likely continue to be. It's really just that simple. Please note that I did not bash God, Christianity, The Bible, Homosexuals or even The Way, itself. I simply stated the cold hard facts.

So much of what was taught in the PFAL series of classes has been debunked regarding "accuracy", it would hardly seem worth anyone's while to stay/return to partake of the supposed "gentler, kinder" treatment, even if it were real.

Do they still teach "the law of believing"?

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And don't forget to try the newest version, Bishop Bane. (satisfaction guaranteed or your innocence cheerfully refunded)

I have to think you at least understand The Way's party line regarding The Holocaust. :o

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Actually, I think there were two others who made there way into PFAL-Ville via the same MLM along with F*rt..

STEED (oil additive)---- That's how F@rt got in the word.

Whatta buncha maroons!

1. That the court cannot hear a property dispute between two Establishments of Religion if doing so requires the court to engage in the unconstitutional activities of considering doctrine, weighting doctrine, interpreting doctrine, or resolving doctrinal issues. I highly doubt that doctrine will play any role in this. It's all a matter of whether one party "borrowed" from the work of another or not. The meaning of the work in question is of little significance in relation to the decision.

Here's an example: When faced with the reality that Wierwille actually stole the materials in PLAF (The Wonder Class), there are those who will say, "Yes, but Gawd told him what things to steal and how to arrange them in a way that they hadn't been arranged since the last time they were arranged. And, anyhow, it was all for the betterment of mankind." You see, the concept of VP being a crook as well as a great Man-o-Gawd, simply doesn't fit well into one mind simultaneously, so the mind finds a way to make it seem to be justified

I'll tell you what I'd do if it was me. I'd write "The Teacher". That's: The Teacher P.O. Box 328 New Knockwurst, Ohio 45871

I don't think man has a need to believe the unbelievable. I just think that his mind is made in such a way that it constantly tries to reconcile thoughts and concepts that are at odds with each other. Cognitive dissonance.

With technical knowledge and advancements, I can see your point about mathematics demanding it. This stuff, however, has much more to do with what appeals to human psyche and emotion. Man is hardwired with a sense of curiosity that needs to make sense out of that which, otherwise, makes little or no sense. Have you ever watched any of the currently popular TV shows about paranormal activity? They try to use "science" to prove the unprovable. Why haven't they gotten "smart" enough to realize their efforts are futile? Because that hardwired sense of wonder and curiosity is not completely satisfied with reason and logic.

Well, it's not like each generation becomes progressively smarter. If you live 80 years, you get 80 years "smart". The next generation lives 80 years and they, too, get 80 years "smart". But, collectively, the next generation to follow doesn't start out with 160 years of "smart" built in.

I wouldn't read too much depth into it. Wierwille saw a forgotten product (call it the hula hoop, if you will.) and repackaged it for a new market.

The HS field was gaining a lot of steam in the early 1900s. That's when speaking in tongues saw a revival movement of sorts. The modern Pentecostal Christian practice of glossolalia is often said to have originated around the beginning of the twentieth century in the United States. The city of Topeka, Kansas is often cited as the center of the Pentecostal movement and the resurgence of glossolalia in the Church. Charles Fox Parham, a holiness preacher and founder of Bethel Bible College in 1900, is given credit for being the one who influenced modern Pentecostalism. During what has been called a sermon by Parham, a bold student named Agnes Ozman asked him for prayer and the laying on of hands to specifically ask God to fill her with the Holy Spirit. This was the night of New Year's Eve, 1900. She became the first of many students to experience glossolalia, coincidentally in the first hours of the twentieth century. Parham followed within the next few days, and before the end of January 1901, glossolalia was being discussed in newspapers as a sign of the second advent of Pentecost. SOURCE While it appears that speaking in tongues was not first received through Parham's ministry, the focus on what it meant (as the "evidence") appears to have started there, and shortly afterwards it gained momentum. Most in the Pentecostal movement would point to him as being a key person in the early days of the movement. Prior to 1906 (i.e. in 1903 - 1905), Parham held services in Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, and Texas, where "baptism of the holy spirit with speaking in tongues" was often present. William Seymour, the initial preacher at Azusa street, attended Parham's bible college in the winter of 1905, and went out from there to Los Angeles, bringing many of Parham's teachings with him. Charles Parham

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