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Driscoll on "The G-Word".

When I call you up, your line's engaged.

Exhibit A

I've watched both the youtube links. All I see is a guy giving HIS personal opinion of how HE thinks a male church member should conduct himself. What I DON'T see is how he has used the scriptures to reach this opinion. Wierwille was big on this stuff. Maybe that's why it rubs me the wrong way. I remember VPW saying in one of the classes (CF&S?) "Be a man!!" The emphasis was placed on conveyance of machismo. Wierwille grew up in a time and place where the concept of "manliness" (whatever that is) was emphasized. I saw men in "the ministry" start to imitate VPW in regard to "manly" interests such as guns, fishing, motorcycles and so on. I also saw men start abusing their wives and children because this image they were trying to live required that they absolutely be the one in control. When I was just a youngster, I remember a kid's book about "What Daddies Do". Some daddies are accountants, some daddies drive bulldozers, some daddies are dentists----and so on. Although by today's standards the book might appear lopsided, the bigger message being conveyed was that there is no single, perfect way to describe the role of a man. By Driscoll's (and VPW's) standards can a man in a wheelchair be a minister? Is he "manly" enough? What about a guy who happens to prefer the fine arts to monster truck rallies? This kind of thinking is culturally oriented. It's subservient to contemporary trends. In the one youtube, Driscoll takes exception to the "Bride" reference, citing manliness as a preclusion. Perhaps Driscoll needs to expand his thinking and realize that, not only is marriage not solely about sexual relations, but, that our view of what constitutes a marriage is vastly different than the views that existed 2,000 years ago.

I thought this was worthy of repeating.

Actually, it wasn't swept, cleaned, etc. (in the physical sense) when The Way took occupancy. We went there with Fellow Laborers to do cleaning and scrubbing. It was like the ancient city of Pompei, where people fled in mid-meal to escape the oncoming fury of an erupting Vesuvius. I remember the pond being completely neglected and overrun with thousands and thousands of Painted Turtles.

Here's something else to consider. When the previous owners vacated the property, they left much of their work in it's current state. For instance, the first time I was there, there was a room or rooms full of herbs and teas that were being hung to dry. It gave the impression that the workers had not finished and were planning to return. Things like that can play tricks on the sub-conscious. (Yes, I know Wierwille taught that the sub-conscious does not exist.)

I was only there a couple of times, but, I recall there were mineral springs on the property. They gave off foul smelling gases. The sense of smell has a way of stirring up old memories and emotions, even on a subconscious level. Perhaps these odors triggered a response to some unpleasant occurrences in the past.

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"if your in a high profile position and need body gaurds go for it." He didn't need bodyguards because he was in a high profile position, he needed them for protection against the many people he had wronged. Do yourself a favor and read Losing The Way.

Culpability

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What a long, strange trip it's been

I "witnessed" to on several occasions. I'm glad I was not a very good salesman.

The one who REALLY needed his azz kicked was VP. I suspect he knew that someone was likely to try. That's why he surrounded himself with armed thugs and was known to dispatch goons to quiet any opposition,

That's Sue Lyon, one of Donovan's old flames. She is best known for her portrayal of Lolita

Comedy is a serious business-----W. C. Fields

I wonder if it has anything to do with GSC's anniversary.

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It's a simple head code---anyone can catch it.

Silk purse from a sow's ear

It's the same thing as a mandatory donation. United Way is famous for it. I'm sure they must have explored all the legal aspects of it by now or they wouldn't continue the practice. My personal opinion Serve your time FIRST. THEN raise your objections.

More VDGG This is what resided on my turntable before it was replaced by Way albums.