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Of course there is folklore in the Bible. Does that, in itself, detract from its value? I think you have to consider the intrinsic purpose and value of folklore. Folklore exists because people want to preserve information that they feel is important. I wouldn't be too surprised to find that parts of Proverbs or Jesus' parables were derived, at least in part, from "folklore". Why should that disqualify or devalue the messages they contain?

If only it ended with, "They lived happily ever after."

No. Then they become committed to each other instead of the ministry.

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If you live/work in Ohio, you are not allowed to smoke in a fleet vehicle. It's really not much different than the ban on smoking in your office cubicle. The company owns it and other people are affected by the smoking. Pretty straightforward, in my opinion. Now, to clarify about the company I previously noted, there was no smoking, anywhere on company property or in company vehicles. If you were hired in before the prohibition, smoking was permitted during off-hours. New hires, however, knew exactly what was expected of them when they signed on for the job. Don't like the rules? Don't accept the job.

There are many companies here that will not hire you if you are a smoker. My wife worked for a company, about 10 years ago, that fired people for smoking on their off-hours. They cited insurance costs as their justification.

In Ohio, it's illegal to smoke in public places, including bars. Lots of companies have had smoke free policies for years and even decades.

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Geeze. I just come here for the free coffee. Will there be any cookies? I'm just askin'.

Happy birthday, .

Why, yes. I believe it sucked even more than it really needed to.

I don't really think it was all that fundamentally different than selling vacuum cleaners. We were selling something (PFAL) that sucked.

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This paper had about as much credibility as a job character reference from the devil.

Mean people suck!

Maybe you should investigate Mr. Wierwille and call it your every day cup of reality. (You do know he wasn't a "Dr.", right?)

Do tell. What are these signs, miracles and wonders you've been seeing?

Hey there, Mrt. Welcome to GSC. Do they still have THESE at twig meetings?

I think the franchise concept was part of Wierwille's business plan all along. What was Fellow Laborers if not a franchised version of the Corps? It just took Geer a while to figure out how to cash in on it himself.

When P.O.P. was written/read, the average schmoe, like myself, had no idea the depth of depravity Wierwille was entrenched in. But, Geer knew. He, in fact, was instrumental, not only in fueling the depravity, but, also, and perhaps more importantly, in helping to create this false persona of Wierwille being some "great one". So, while he (Geer) is reading all these accolades that appear in P.O.P., he is simultaneously aware of the falsehood he is presenting. He knows he is lying through his teeth. How could anyone possibly now give an ounce of credibility to anything at all that this man might say?

Has anyone mentioned yet that VP was NOT a "patriarch"? He was just some charismatic, power hungry, drunken sexual predator. Doesn't it make the whole premise of the paper a rather moot point?

We sure were a gullible bunch, though, weren't we?

Well, I'm not a tree expert, but I'm pretty sure trees can die either way, depending on the cause. Anyhow, Jesus walks up to this tree 'cause "he's hungry for a snack, like when you and i want a pack of gum." Oops! No gum. (I think it might have actually been a gum tree.) So, he says, "I'll teach you not to have any gum. Die, sucker!" Next thing you know, it's kindling for the campfire ring. Seriously, though, you have to ask yourself why Jesus would curse the tree for not having fruit when he knew that it wasn't time for fruit to be on the tree. Wierwille's explanation was that Jesus knew there should at least be buds on the tree and that the buds make a good snack. Do fig buds make a good snack? Where did VP get this idea that fig buds were a viable "snack food"? Maybe they are. I don't know. But, I don't think Wierwille knew either. I think he just pulled this stuff out of his azz.

Got milk?