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And some of the few men who did, seem to develop a distorted memory of how wonderful life was in the good old days

"It just sits there like a duck"

Who really knows what or if VP ever threatened to physically harm her if she went public. Or worse, threatened to harm her children. I'm not saying he did. I'm just saying, that knowing the true nature of the man, it's not hard to imagine this scenario being played out. He did, after all, dispatch armed thugs to threaten outspoken Way detractors. He kept guns, knives, vicious dogs, and loyal toadies at his immediate dispatch. "He was a mean man"

Nahh---- He just made something up that would indirectly imply that he, himself, was an Apostle and hoped no one would notice that he just pulled this stuff out of his butt.

We had morning fellowship every day at 5:30AM in Fellow Laborers. All 50 of us met in the basement of one of the apartments for prayer, mannies and announcements. We sat cross-legged on the cold concrete floor and struggled just to appear to be awake after our usual 5 hours of sleep. (Hooded sweats were quite handy for disguising one's true state of awareness.) Immediately following the meeting, we jogged, en masse, "to the big tree and back" down a totally darkened rural road. There was a rather large drainage ditch that ran on either side of the two lane country road. One morning, on the way back from the tree, a rather high ranking member of the limb staff fell into a deep sleep, while jogging, ran about 100 feet and then ran straight into the ditch, as all those around him watched in disbelief. It took him several seconds to figure out where he was and what had happened.

It was staged. One long time poster has detailed how she and VPW were sitting under a tree having a casual conversation, when a certain believer walked by. Wierwille jumped up and got in his face, delivering an enraged tirade. Then, when he had dismissed the person, he sat back down, smiled, made some off the wall comment about spiritual anger and casually resumed the conversation as if nothing had happened. It was all an act. He slipped in and out of character like a walk-on in a broadway show.

The salt covenant was a real big deal for me when I got divorced because I felt, at the time, like I had broken a promise to God.

Would someone like my turn?

Ok---Now picture yourself living in a commune with about 50 other people, half are men, half are women. You can't marry an "unbeliever" and you can't date outside the commune. (There were exceptions made for people who married Corps.) And there was a "no sex" policy for singles. That's a pretty darn funky situation to find yourself in at 25 years old.

Yes, the "being on the down low" expression came to mind as I was posting. Maybe I should have used a less ambiguous cliche.

Wierwille had direct ties to a white supremacy political group called Liberty Lobby (now defunct). Liberty Lobby evolved into The Populist Party. When Populist Party member, Bob Richards, became a U.S. presidential candidate, he came to speak to the Way Corps. Another notable, high ranking member of The Populist Party is the former Grand Wizard of The Ku Klux Klan (KKK), David Duke. Wierwille frequently used information he gleaned from Liberty Lobby propaganda, such as The Spotlight, to formulate conspiracy theories and pass them on to Way members under the guise of Divine Revelation. Wierwille kept all this well hidden from the general populace of The Way. Personally, this all came as a tremendous shock to me when I discovered it here at GSC. One thing that especially appealed to me when I became involved with The Way was that the organization seemed to be promoting a message that was in favor of racial and ethnic equality. I dare say that the vast majority of other members I knew at the time held the same false assumption. One thing that really aggravates me to a large degree is knowing that some of my well intentioned abundant sharing may have been diverted to these organizations Personally, I had no idea about his ties until I found out here on GSC.

Can't remember who, but I seem to recall one of our posters has personal ties to someone involved in the logistics of bringing the bodies home.

I doubt we'll ever know. Don't hold your breath while you wait for our young friend to give us that insight.

My intentions in starting this thread really have nothing to do with the issue of homosexuality. My intent is to show that wierwille could just pull things out of his butt and convince us that he knew the "real" insider low down. Plus, it further demonstrates his genuine lack of credibility. If he couldn't even get the basic facts of biology straight, how in the world could he have known intricate spiritual truths?

That's how I see it, too. Ironic, though, he seemed to have forgotten that only four years prior (1976) he tried and succeeded to sell us on the idea that the gvt. was "out to get" The Way.

Yeah, but I can see where that might escape your notice if you were hiding out in the woods so as to avoid doing chores.

"You won't find same sex arrangements among animals" (Heavily paraphrased.) http://www.columbusdispatch.com/live/content/science/stories/2009/08/09/sci_samesex.ART_ART_08-09-09_G3_FREMHLP.html?sid=101

Hmmmmm--- Model T's were made from 1909-1927. Maserati made its debut in 1926. thinking---thinking---

Maybe not, but they made very clear who you were NOT supposed to marry.----Kinda limited the field.

Does it have anything to do with The Dixie Highway?

Speaking only for myself, I can tell you that does not describe my involvement at all.

-----Little Richard