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I had suspicions about a few things as early as the mid 1970's but never really knew what happened until I happened onto GreaseSpot. (I "left" in 1990.) Like others have stated, I, too, thought what I was seeing was isolated.

That's pretty much what we've been asking all along. So far, though, no answers.

You packed a gun???? :o Why?

Hey! Maybe this rubbish dump thing explains why "Dr.'s Last Teaching" has been missing all these years. It's been floating amidst the miles and miles of toxic garbage, virtually indistinguishable from all the other trash.

When I was in high school, I was in a band that played at school dances and such. One of the tunes we did was Mr. Tambourine Man. (The Byrds cover version) We added a verse that made reference to an issue of local importance. Therefore, I think it is safe to say that we were actually the true authors of Mr.Tambourine Man. :blink:

Hi, crystalclearblue Yes, it is sad. The Way promised to deliver a pie-in-the-sky utopia (via what they claimed was "God's Word") that defies the reality of how real life works. Maybe we were all just too young and naive to see it (The Way) for what it really was, a money making scheme for VPW & Co. Anyway, welcome to GSC. Have a latte on the house.

Friends, it's time once again for some HOMEGROWN TOMATOES.

Sign in hardware store window: ******************** CAST IRON SINKS ******************** (Who didn't know that?)

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I still want to know if fig pep is all the rage.

Hey there, tagster Have you ever seen elderly people talking on the TV news about how they've been swindled out of their life savings? On one hand, it's got to be awfully embarrassing for them to expose their vulnerability. But, it must be liberating, as well, for them to realize what actually happened. That's kinda how this place is. It hurts like the dickens when you first find out you were scammed. Then, it starts to feel better when you start to realize it wasn't all your fault. Good luck, whatever you decide to do.

I, for one, would be interested in hearing about the mechanics of the program. What was an average day like? How was it scheduled? Did you have free time to just relax? What were mealtimes like? What sort of food program did you have? What were the housing arrangements? Did you have group work projects? What was offered in the way of academic study? Are these questions general enough to keep things neutral?

Manipulation---The wayfer mindset needs it to survive. She may have distanced herself from them physically, but, mentally, she is still a "Way believer".

Two Points: 1. Using the logic of this definition, someone starting a revival of 1920's music or macrame purse making could be considered an "apostle". 2. Who gets to decide what is "light" and what isn't?

Well, the point I was trying to make was that Wierwille promoted, no, endorsed this "head in the sand" kind of attitude about environmental issues. According to him, this stuff was irrelevant because, even if Christ didn't return in our lifetime, we could use "believing" to fix it all. We can't really ruin the planet. It's just a trick of the adversary. Everything would be "okay" because God already saw it in his foreknowledge and had a plan to fix it. Don't bother wasting your time or money on these things. Sell PLAF and keep the ABS flowing.

Yeah---just not "every day". :blush:

As some of you may or may not have noticed, I frequently post a "shout" describing what I am making for breakfast on Sunday mornings. I am an early riser and only cook breakfast on Sunday mornings, though sometimes I will also cook breakfast on a holiday. So, I get up at 5:30, start the coffee (I skip running "to the tree and back"---a bit of Fellow Laborer humor), grab the paper from the front stoop and, simultaneously, start on the crossword puzzle and breakfast. Through all the clatter of pots and pans, sizzling, chopping and stirring, the two cats remain completely oblivious to the commotion. Not a whimper, not so much as a twitch emerges from those seemingly immobile clumps of fur. Now, no matter what else I make, I will also make a couple strips of bacon and 2 scrambled eggs for my wife. Still, this activity goes completely unnoticed by the cats. But, as soon as my wife's feet hit the floor and head for the kitchen, the cats instantly come alive as the unrelenting begging and whining begin. I'm not really sure how much of the "bacon and eggs" my wife actually consumes. I only know there is none left as the whining subsides and the two cats curl up, once again, to a motionless morning slumber. ----Bon appetite!

Maybe they just crave attention---like this guy: HERE

The "gift" part I get. I'm still a little fuzzy on the "ministry" part, though. (Is there such a thing as a "gift MLM"?)

I know there are times when chat will sit idle for days. But, it's kinda like that band-aid that sits in a dark drawer until, suddenly, you mistake your pinky finger for a carrot. Then, it's very much appreciated . I'm casting my vote for "keep it" if it is feasible to do so.

The real irony here is that VPW actually DID have a "goon squad" that he could dispatch to travel hundreds of miles away on a moment's notice. I personally know of an instance when the "goons" knocked on someone's front door and threatened to physically silence the person if he didn't stop bad mouthing "The Ministry" in his local area. Not the usual, "The adversary will sneak in and attack you" kinda stuff. More like, "We will to fit you with cement boots if you don't shut up." I'm hoping (for his sake) that our young friend isn't suggesting he would like to be a part of anything similar.

Linda In the upper right hand corner, you will see your screen name. Click on that and select the option, "Messenger" I don't know if that's the official method, but it seems to work for me.