Allan

yeah..you're disitating ! and yes, some people were slow to 'wake up'to the evil in twi and 'believe God' to move out,as soon as we saw the crap going on at Indiana campus we 'checked out', were going to walk out through the front doors and onto a greyhound bus. Actually,I was threatened with being thrown from stone hall 3rd level window if I said anything to anyone before we left.

Song remains the same said..I'm still trying to walk on water to prove that s.i.t. is real.. What's walking on water got to do with s.i.t??!!

yeah, why not be the first one out of you lot to post an apology !!

No way was I blaming the weak for the offenses of the strong, no way, that is your 'interpretation'. I was asked a question and I replied what I believe and quite frankly,the facts back it up. When people finally got sick of the b/s or angry or whatever God moved to get them out, of that I'm sure.

Bramble said "how are you going to stop things being posted.." I never said I was!! Wordwolf, do you want to dissitate over 'pushing' versus 'debating'? Get a life mate !! Sorry, that was a 'rhetorical' 'parambole' of a remote context statement..geeesh.

even in good ole' New Zealand we refer to people in terms of nigga,for fun.All it means is that they are hopeless lazy darkskinned people !! I think a better choice of word could have been used by Hammeroni,but then wait for the excuses.. As I said before, waybrain still in some people..find it hard to just admit a slip up and say..sorry.

I know longer believe in one truth that fits every human being on the planet. I challenge you to find anywhere on this site where I have pushed my beliefs. I didn't have to look far did I ??!!

No I'm happy to stay here for awhile to stop it being overun by pagans, atheists, new agers and spiritualists,so thanks anyway Bramble !

Which tells me also that as soon as people 'rose up' in twi and stood up God whisked them out of there pretty smartly !!

you can assume what you want about me (and attack me all you want) but the fact remains.. remember the lepers outside their famine ravished city, "why stay we here til we die" Common sense finally prevailed !!

so when people argue against you it's called 'attacking posters' ? But of couse you don't attack posters do you ?! Hammeroni..I don't mind having a conversation with mistress of darkness, but I do ask the question now that you bring it up..is her 'nametag' a poke at humour as one who purports to love God ??

And when I think of the thousands who got born again and s.i.t. yes, Gods' involvement at least to an 'enth degree', probably not as much as leadership thought, think.

Then you better let Wordwolf know, he 'analyzed' that you were referring to the 70's, 80's. God had to have been involved in twi, at least(and read my words) to some enth degree because there were MANY blessings, healings etc.. and maybe not so much involved in twi(God) but BELIEVERS within twi. Why did evil happen to some ? Because they were too weak to say f**k off or at least, NO. And yes, I do know people that did that. What I would like to know is why we don't hear more from those people ?

I think they all had been at twig at some point !! In fact I think Elvis is still on lead program somewhere, had a problem hitchin' a ride back to hq !!

Wordwolf said ..So there are pagans, atheists, christians of every stamp that post here.. Thats fine, I'm sure we've all worked that out, but some of us have also worked out that they try to 'push' their beliefs as much as anyone. It's called 'debating'.

If they don't criticise folks then it's obviously not for some here !! Wordwolf,one can 'try' to defend what is said by the likes of Rascal by 'analyzing' figures of speech etc but one of the 'biggies' I look at when studying is.. remote and near context and..(scripture)BUILDUP !!

Wordwolf said.. happened in the 70's, 80's, so we're talking stuff that happened 25, 30 years ago ??!! Sorry, no wonder it was 'misconstrued' Hope those 'humane societies' are helping !! And one can tell by the 'tone' of the threads what Rascal and others think of God, Christianity, fellowships etc.. which is fine but just remember..this IS an 'open forum'.

If I have sorry,it's just that you 'appear' to post denigrating God and His Word and then 'appear' to duck and weave when 'pressed' on the reasons for saying what you did !!

Rascal..if thats' what you reallyyyy meant maybe you should have said 'NO' at the end of the thread ?

From page one of thread entitled 'praising or cursing' Rascal quote.."could God really be responsible' does He really deserve praise for such devastation wrought in His name ?" end quote Yeah, we're getting it now Mr.H, Cw, Linda Z, Rascal. We'll all start cursing God if that's what you're after !! Kinda reminds me of..did God reallyyyy say.. Now who was that ??

Page one of this thread..Rascal.."could God really be responsible, does He really deserve praise for such devastation wrought in His name"? end quote Aah, I get it now..did God reallyyy say..

..and your reasons for your opinions are becoming a 'little' bit shall we say..hard to swallow.

So Rascal..what is your true motivation for posting on the forum anyway, sorry, some of us are tending to believe it is for ©ulterior motives ?!

White Dove, this is one of the things I take issue with.."no truth taught in twi" !! Come on 'rascal' and some of you others, be honest and vent your true motives for posting some of the things you do !! And yes,Rascal has blamed, mocked God on her posts, keep it honest pllllease.

I really wonder how many people were a 'nasty piece of work' before they got involved in twi in the first place,whether they changed and after leaving 'reverted back' to their old man nature ??!!