Allan

I do know in New Zealand the call was to go back to school and uni I guess to get better paying jobs, hence more money rolling in and 'sphere of influence', which seems to be working for my bro- in- law.

I'm happy for him to have a photo with a kangaroo or koala bear at some stage and then I'll jump on a plane and get a photo of him with a Kiwi !!

Dear Moddiwasher, maybe you could pt me as to reasons you deleted my message(for further reference). Was it because I mentioned my bro-in-law who is supposedly the new country co-ord of n.z. or what I said about him and Mic**l Ad**ms ? !!

No issue taken exy!!! we need to 'band' together and keep up the good fight against the bad, ugly, and downright putrid,especially after reading Belles post on TWI leadership changes.

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Thanks Too Gray Now, you're right, Ex-Cathy as well.I wasn't aiming it at anyone, but maybe some of the ex-exers really need to post their 'beliefs' in the 'beliefs section'. Satoori,whatever works you have done will be added up one day, this life is way too short to get hung up on it. I am one of these ones with business diplomas etc..( 5 years, 8 papers ) but I choose to keep 'peddling' the Bible.My brother-in-laws who all own their own businesses think I'm nuts but what the hay !!

Thanxs for that Ron, very interesting and worth keeping an eye on.

Firstly, I believe that Greasespot Cafe is still and should continue to be a forum for ex-TWI'ers first and foremost. Not those who happen to be ex-JW's, ex-LDS, ex-SDA, ex-etc..don't they have their own ex-forums ? or are their forums not as good ?!! The problem is that they appear to be bringing their own in-grained beliefs and we have to troll through the illogicity of things like JESUS being GOD all over again. I want 'innies' to see that 'sanity' lies beyond the walls of TWI not within !!

Whatever, whenever, however, whyever, to me still the greatest Word of God I ever heard !

A country & western musical serial killer ?!!

Yeah, this was just after we left,but picture this.The country co-ord. of N.Z. and his r.h.m. sitting at a table sipping lemonade in the middle of summer giving instructions to the'followers' as they built a fence around his expansive backyard.

Hi WG ! Sorry, I have been away, down in Fiji (Pacific Islands) for a wedding.Allan and Selina Woodhouse,New Zealand, ex-F20, glad to hear you are doing well.

Thanks for the replies everybody.Sad in a number of 'ways' to hear they still have the 'blinkers' on.

Interesting topic.The 'major' healings we have seen(or been involved in)have really happened AFTER leaving TWI.I posted before about Selinas 8 year old niece being 'raised' out of a coma a 1/2 hour after being prayed over.She had meningococal meningitis(inflamation of the brain.) Her uncle, the country co-ord.'right hand man' was too 'busy'(scared)at the time to go up to the hospital the whole time. It was a bit of a standing joke with some of us(while we were still 'in')how the country co-ord. and his wife would rush their kids off to the doctor if they even sniffled,even Selina was amazed how one time when we babysat for them while they were in the States, she had to take their toddler for her immunisation shot and the nurses started joking when Selina walked in with her!! I believe that these 'turkeys' KNOW that they are so far out of fellowship with God they really have MANY fears. Oh, and btw, we know of another man came visiting whilst in Auckland (from Fiji) for a brain tumour operation; prayed over, healed,went back to Fiji without the operation and now doing well and living in the good ol U.S.A.

Thanx Ex, they visitd N.Z. a cupla times, wonderful couple.Heard Gene confronted N.Z. country co-ord. over a cupla things so that made me wonder if they were still in!!

Anyone know if they are still associating with TWI ? They were the country co-ord. of Guam for awhile.

All the best with your 'mission' signals.My postings are not a mission as such nor a wanting to gossip, but rather, hopefully a warning for people involved or thinking to get involved (especially in N. Z. and/or Australia)with TWI in these countries.As I said before, the country co-ord. is a BASKET CASE, A VIOLENT man and an ADULTERER and ENCOURAGES this style of behavior in his 'followers'.

The two of them walked through the door,started yelling, threatening,thumping me on the chest,I fell over backwards.I believe they wanted me to retaliate so Karate Kid could finish me off(must be that word of wisdom thingy again !) One of My kids had actually phoned the police and they turned up very quickly and slapped a two year trespass notice on them. What caused this ? I had smiled and said hello to a lady in their fellowship in a shopping mall a couple of days previously as I walked past ! They had told their ladies that if I were to do anything like that for them to start screaming RAPE,RAPE. Kind of ironic isn't it.Maybe I should write a book, but GSC is doing a much better job!! It probably sounds like I'm making some of this up, but I assure you I am not !!

When Selina and I left TWI in-res. and arrived back in N.Z. her brother called her up and demanded she leave me.I guess they believed she could be manipulated more. Anyway, she told him no,I was the father of her kids etc.. So he asked her to ask me if I hated him.( This is how cunning they think they are ) As soon as she asked me I knew that if I said "yes", he would quote some scripture about 'the love of God not being in me'( maybe that was word of wisdom ?) Anyways, I said " Tell him I love him " at which point he apparently flew into a fit of a rage on the other end of the phone, hung up and we never heard from him again till years later when him and a karate kid walked into our home to assault me in front of my family !

Wayfernot, you just reminded me of an incident where paul Mosq***a chewed the whole family corps out because he had gone and taken a dump only to realise that the last person hadn't replaced the empty toilet roll!! Very detail minded..NOT!!

Oh, things like a couple of our elder corps whose partners were having an affair,caught out 'doing it' in the sauna on campus.When the wife of one of them went to see leadership, SHE was threatened with being thrown off campus!! Because his parents were on staff at H.Q. Another single mom in-res with her daughter being caught in bed naked with her naked daughter AND her daughters friend. This was again, whitewashed over, by leadership. Other things as well,Selina and I understood that people can be weird but to 'gloss it over' we believed to be very wrong.

Maybe it has something to with 'the (natural, instinctual) love of many waxing cold' Gee, where have I read that ??!

Steve- so what made you think I meant Jean Yves de Lisle ? seriously, thankyou ! And I put it on the wrong thread ! Us bloody foreigners, hey, that could be a whole new thread, the problems the foreign in-res. corps presented. I remember some who when it was time for their washing up duties they pretended they couldn't understand english and I think LCM got so pi***d off with a bunch of them he sent them all packing !

Jean Yv** De Li**e, theres a name I haven't heard in a while! He was the dude who called myself and Selina up on the phone at Indiana campus after we had told the Mosquitoes we were leaving. Said he would pay our airfare back to New Zealand if we kept our mouths shut. Got back to N.Z. only to receive an invoice from Mic**l Ad**s for $10,000.Did we pay it? What would you have done?

My uncle would say that apart from getting b/a in twi the best thing he got out of it was how to wash windows. He washes mostly domestic, suburban houses he picked up from doorknocking.Lots of elderly people who are now regular customers, he brings in over a grand a week and turns down new work.