Allan

WDJD ? From what I read of the 'historical texts'Jesus simply 'got involved'.On his way to fulfilling his destiny he 'threw a spanner in the works' 'interferred' with the accepted cycle of life and death,selfishness,evil etc.. that abounds on this planet.Even with God raising him from the dead it seems that this cycle of life and death has begun to be altered forever.

Come on guys(and girls !)reading mdvadens posts hasn't it ever occurred to you that there may be TWIers'begin to post solely with the intent to at some point try to put people off GS ?!Quite clever really, something I would probably do if my mind wasn't renewed to the Word!!!!!

how about shipping her to Loy ?!

Hi Nandon,have things changed in TWI ? My post'wolf skins,leopard skins,sheep skins'on page 8 might give you a bit of a clue. New Zealand is only a tiny country in the South Pacific,however,because it is a mixture of strong English and Americanisms and totally surrounded by water a lot of 'world first' experiments have been routinely conducted there. Not that this has anything to do with TWI of course but I believe The Way of New Zealand really is a very good 'microcosm' of TWI International current climate.

Anyone have any idea how to go about finding oxygenated water in Brisbane Australia ?!

sorry, I just double checked and on jeff s' website, you click on 'cure America'for the info.

David,I guess people make up their own minds as to how genuine you are along with your claims and if you genuinely believe in what you are saying then thankyou for being concerned enough to voice it.This may give a little twist & turn to the debate on oxygenated water here on the forum, I have just been visiting Jeff Raths health site and clicked on the benefits of coral calcium in the body;there it mentioned about cancers & a host of other degenerative diseases being anaerobic etc.. & the need for super oxygenated blood !Jeff Raths site can be accessed through www.cffm.org & then clicking on links.

Word has it 'on the street' that if you ever want to see the real 'flat stanley' again, it will cost you 3,000,00 dollars( Australian currency), we will be in touch.

Mike, do you mean you haven't seen passion of the Christ yet ??!!!! If you haven't, I urge you to go look. "I wish you could have seen it in the original."

Thanx Out-There,Hey Brendy, Australias a big place to get lost in if you want to !!

I think thats how you spell his name.Brendy & family came into family 21 but didn't stay long.Originally from Ireland.

Thanx Wayfer Not,I'm pretty sure it's the same guy too !He was a nice guy at the time we knew him (although he did have the 'hots' for my wife),but she's pretty good at backing off that sort of thing.

Anyone heard of his whereabouts lately? Tall lanky blonde dude,glasses,late twenties early thirties now,came down to New zealand for a couple of years.

Page 5 ( about the way )hope that makes it easier to find seeing as its probably about midnight on your side of the hemisphere !!

Hey Johnny ( lingo ), that was Miceal Adams I was talking about on my thread entitled Wolf skins,sheepskins & leopard skins !

Thankyou all for the kind words.I don't know about 'courage' to post what I did, more a case of twi piffing me off once too often !

Hello everybody,I felt the need to finally post some things that if anything ever happened to me I would regret never having said them to a wider audience!My family & I were involved in twi from '88-'95,ex f20 etc..Indiana campus.What triggered me to put finger to keyboard is a growing concern of TWi's attempt to put across a more'loving & caring face'.One of the biggest problems they have is no accountability anywhere up their'chain of command'(I am talking about things like morals,decency,honesty etc..)things that I am sure many ex-way are concerned with & try to live by.Many of Dr.W's & Lcm's shortcomings flowed down from the top and I believe embedded themselves in many up & down the 'chain of command'.As far as twi in New Zealand is concerned (that is where we fellowshipped)sexual adultery,sexual assaults,physical assault have been and STILL ARE OCCURRING.The country co-ordinator Mi...l Ad..s and his 2ic Se.n Str.....nd (my bro'in law) are a law unto themselves and exercise free reign over the people involved in their twigs(especially the women).Do I have proof?plenty,otherwise I would not mention this on a public forum!One of my cousins as a young man had his girlfriend visited by leadership after the guy had made sure no-one else was home.Threw her on the bed & ..my uncle (my cousins Dad)came home later to find her an emotional mess.This was later addressed by taking them to Mc Donalds to try to smooth it over!!This is a frequent occurence,kind of reminds me of the spirits that had control over the sons of Eli.my wife & I are involved in running a ministy,I know some of you awhile back poked a bit of fun at our website,thats o.k. we still love ya!We still believe in God(it's hard not to when my wife & I after shortly leaving twi were in a hospital room praying over our 8 y.o. niece who was on her way out in a coma from menningococal menningitis( a virus that attacks the body & brain)her skin had virtually turned black from septicemia.We prayed for her & within half an hour she was sitting up talking,tubes down her throat taken out etc.. doctors & nurses shaking their heads in disbelief.)Where was her uncle(my bro'in law) & his 'leader' that are so 'spiritually hot'as they like to consider themselves? Oh, they were conveniently 'busy' at the time.I believe they are so 'spiritually out to lunch'these kind of things freak them out and fear takes hold of them.Much more to say but this has already taken a bit of space,my point really being that THERE IS NO SOFT LOVING DECENT MORALISTIC HONEST SIDE TO THE TWI I know of,and concerning their new forum site? I received an email from their lawyers last week,reminding me that twi are monitoring our activities on and off our website!! all the best, Allan W.