Hopefull

Me too Rafe. Anyway, for something a little deeper, I recommend Watership Down. It's a classic. And it's about bunnies.

You nailed it Alkafat, and MJ that was great- and you are so right- why follow ANY dead man? Wasn't it God Almighty that said, "MOSES MY SERVANT IS DEAD"? There are ministries and churches right NOW where the Word/bible is ALIVE! and so are the teachers, evangelists, pastors, and prophets. Mike, we all know VP plagerized. You are so blind that even if VP had a book that was copied ENTIRELY from someone else you would say that VP's font was inspired, or the heart behind it was what made that book unique. You make me think of the jury on OJ's trial. The only way they would have seen the light is if OJ stood up and said "I DID IT, I am Guilty" I guess ole VP would have to come to you in a vision and say, "Mike, those Gspotters are right, I plagerized. Now have some Drambuie and chill out."

yes ginger i sowie someone i used to know would make homemade irish cream and give it as a gift at the holidays- if i still had the recipe i would give it a try- it was scrumptious, better than Bailey's even

(((((Excath)))))!!!! And don't EVEN get me started on Home Depo(t)-holics- and why bake cookies when there are perfectly lovely bakeries all over the place? P.S. You I luvs, your super-sister...not so much... P.S.S. Sorry for the tangent, crafty peoples

(((((((Excath))))) Finally a kindred spirit! I get hives when I go into an arts and crafts store...

When Ben healed the strong man's arm- which he had broken- in the lake and all the fish died and rose to the top- his power comes at a price to something else. Thought that was very interesting. He might be bad after all. And the vision of Justin being the man that he killed with his power as child- I find this show to be VERY intriguing.

Cooking for blondes: two words "micro wave"

...that you know what's best for you, either by your own volition or though your personal relationship with God. ...you can enjoy pop culture and not analyze it "spiritually speaking." ...sleeping in til 10 on Sunday can be good for the body and you are not obligated to go to a meeting or to church unless you choose. ...your last vacation was extra wonderful because you didn't have to give your schedule to anyone. ...your stress level is so much less and your self esteem is greater because no one reprimands you anymore. ...some of your family members are really cool people and you would like to get to know them better. ...your head is clearer because it is not being screwed up by the "anti christian" teachings of a supposedly "christian" organization. ...your feeling about gays is live and let live and you are able to treat all people more tolerently. ...you don't have all the answers. ...you have a better life style because you can work a little extra without conflicts and are no longer a victim of extortion. Any more?

I am in this club, but barely. 1977-1998.

Happy Birthday, Big Guy. Love, Hopefull

Happy Belated Birthday, Rottiegrrrl! Best wishes for a happy, healthy year full of good things! Hopefull

C'mon Larry, we all know it's what you have inside the socks and not the shorts that horrified them. :P--> [This message was edited by Hopefull on May 22, 2003 at 12:25.]

Thanks for answering my question. No Mike, I m not going to answer your questions and I'm not interested in being witnessed to by you. I had 21 years of bible/pfal minutae and have learned more than I cared to about Mr. Weirwilles' spin on the bible. I prefer to go to other sources now- sources that help me understand the meaning of the bible and not the "accuracy" or the "new light" as defined by the way. Please don't try to change my mind- I am an adult and have the right to choose to be close-minded about a subject.

Mike, You are much better at asking questions than answering them. Unlike you, I am not interested in a debate. I only expressed a concern for your wording- *living in the fast lane*-- the insinuation that a person who has fallen prey to a MOG's sexual advances had loose morals. I did not say anything about respecting or not respecting the MOG. If you don't want to address the issue that's fine.

Mike, If I was a young girl who was molested by Mr. Weirwille or any MOG under their instructions that I would be doing God's work by blessing the MOG, does that mean I *lived in the fast lane*??

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO A WONDERFUL WOMAN WHO HAS CONTRIBUTED LOTS AND LOTS HERE AT GS AND IS ADMIRED BY ALL. ...and even more important, anyone in chat that thinks I am you at first is really super nice to me... Happy Birthday and oodles more, ((((RICH)))) Love from FULL

Thank-you Adios! :D--> That probably comes from staying at a 5 star hotel the night before! Although the pics were well taken, they really don't do anyone justice. It was the most fun I had had in a long time, and it was great to meet everyone!

This gave me a good laugh. Our wonderful Kit Sober wrote this in response to a thread which asked - what would you choose to be written on your tombstone- she said-- "See you soon".

I am gonna cheat just a little, because this is regarding Greasespot's predecessor- I think it was from Verbalkint-- "Waydale-- where the men are all strong, the women are beautiful and the children above average."

Kit, thank you always for your graciousness, and ladies-- thank you so much for your birthday wishes. I can say that here right? WISHES :P--> It really made my day! Thank-you Kit, Mandii, Adios,Kathy, Wacky, Suz, and Ex10! :)--> Love always, Hope

I cannot fathom how terrible it must have been to be put into that kind of situation. Whether or not you submit or resist the sexual coersion of Mr. Weirwille- both outsomes are quite the mind screw. Here you are all idealistic and gullible and in the beginning of your young womanhood. Perhaps you are a virgin or not far removed from your first sexual experience. Then the *teacher*, your *father in the word*, the one whom you totally trusted and whose ministry became your ministy- the MOG's goals your goals- and all you want is to be loved and to be part of this higher cause-- you have let go of family and friends, the past, have changed your thinking through the corps and maybe your are excited and *blessed* to be on staff, --you devote your time to selling piffle and to blessing the *believers*- you are in awe of the MOG and those above you on the way tree- and the MOG, Mr. Weirwille, a wolf in sheeps clothing, who has been entrusted with your eternal soul and who taught you everything and whom you respect and whose word is as good as THE Word- preys on you-he gets you alone and touches your back, or your shoulder and breast- and says that he knows you want to bless him, you need love, you want to be a team player doncha now---nothing wrong with satisfying the physical- he has needs and so do you-- he says it so it must be true, how can you say no to the MOG- I am so very sorry for anyone who has gone through that. What a mind screw, what a disullusionment, what a nasty dirty guilty feeling even if you said no--you are screwed EVEN IF YOU SAID NO AND NOTHING HAPPENS-- Soul stealing is a very good term. What happened in twi is as far removed from adultery as is pedophilia. You ladies that have had to endure this- who who doubted themself and who were damaged-- who lost their peace-I am so very sorry for what you went through. I wish the selfish horny opportunistic old goat was still alive so he might make amends for your sake. I want to say- please keep telling your story. Anyone that comes here that does not believe it happened- eventually if they keep reading, they will get it. Loy was not the only bad guy, he was just the seed that grew up. And many things that an ex-wayfer didn't understand before will fall into place reading your stories. The truth shall set you free. Hopefull

Mr. Weirwille was a "corndog"????? Oh. Never mind...

"But I do not belieeeeve in your Jeeeeeezus". Seriously my last few years in, there were so many scheduled witnessing events that it was easier to just go along with it than deal with the reproof. When in Rome you're kinda choosing to do what the Romans do. Good luck and please get out of twi.

Oldies, were you in twi 2? I believe I started out by saying something that Loy Boy said (I think in the wap class). Yes Mr. Weirwille said that in piffle. He also said, tell me what you think about Jesus and I'll tell you how far you'll go spiritually. Loy screamed that the way was NOT NOT NOT a christian organization that if you prayed to Jesus you were praying to a devil spirit. Countless things that were taught in twi1 were contradicted in twi2. It was NOT OK to say I don't know in twi2.

LCM has said that the comfort we get from God is the comfort of having the answers to life. While in twi many of us were knowlege addicts. What discomfort to not have the knee-jerk scripture for any given situation. If you don't, then repeat after me-- Renew Your Mind! Is this what the bible means when it says it contains all things pertaining to life and godliness? Does the bible have the answers to every little thing? I submit that it does not, but that it does direct us to the One who does. Trust in the Lord with all thine heart and lean not unto thine own understanding (etc)-- I believe that this is the comfort that we get from God. Trusting Him and asking Him for the answers, to guide us and direct our steps. He alone has all the answers so if what you need is not in the book it can come from God upon our request (you have not because you ask not) as HE is the God of all comfort. It just will come in His time and not ours. The longer I am out the more I realize I do not know many things and it is ok to say that I don't know. I don't have to have it all figured out! What a relief!! My prayer life is so much better now though!