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Maybe you should own the book at least if you are illustrating it as something that is pertinent to the topic. Have you read it or is it just a recommendation on Good Reads from someone?

And this thread is on forgiveness? Well we see the gaslighting part that prevents people from taking accountability for their actions and asking for forgiveness. I guess that is a small illustration. And using manipulation to say “do this” and I’ll forgive you. Holy crap this is a great illustration of how that cult used the emotional strings of forgiveness to play us like a violin .

Gaslighting is continuing to insist that the things I brought up didn’t happen, or just refusing to address them at all despite very clear instruction on the areas where I am calling out your behavior. This causes me the writer to doubt memory, perception to the point where I have to quote you to prove what I am saying. I asking rhetorical questions does not consist of gaslighting. However criticism of someone for answering a rhetorical question and multiple posts where you act like that didn’t happen ignore it, sluff it off, IS gaslighting. I received similar treatment in TWI when I would bring up things to top leadership. Ignore the points act like they didnt happen and control the narrative. Now you’re acting like a victim like I’m giving you orders. I am simply doing what you asked multiple times and spelling out the problematic behavior. And you are taking a parent child tone with me belittling me and insinuating I didn’t learn certain skills when I was growing up. I can’t say kiss my entire @$$ loud enough. Now you can act like a victim again and tell me how hostile I am. Congratulate yourself you are behaving exactly like your former captors who you profess to stand against. Your behavior and your high levels of criticism toward my posts DID happen. I’ve never seen anyone go to these lengths to deny their own behavior on here.

Are you going to explain it to me like you did rhetorical questions? It is to tell the other side of the story. It is not an Underground Railroad to smuggle questioning people out of TWI. Are you not aware of the mission of GSC?

I just did spell it out. The repeated question is gaslighting. Please explain what I asked in my previous post without all the BS. I am not upset I am just not letting your BS criticism go unmentioned this time. Maybe you are projecting how upset you are onto me. I’ll repeat it 1. Explain constant criticism singling me out 2. Explain calling me Mike or just like him 3. Explain Dostoyevsky post and how it relates to forgiveness and why it was brought up

Then why do you consistently single out and criticize my posts? You certainly do that and I’m not allowing you to gaslight me on this. You explain. You still haven’t explained how I’m like Mike logically. And yes lying. Explain the Dostoyevsky post in the midst of this back and forth. Or answer directly. Do you feel that quote is something I represent? It certainly appears that way in context. Oooh but no that’s coincidental. How does it relate to forgiveness then?

Ummm that would be you criticizing me and comparing me to people and calling me names. I’m confident that you want to be the king of this website and somehow feel threatened when I post a lot here so you pretty much revert to criticizing me or attacking my posts in some fashion. You have way more posts here than anyone else by a long shot. No I didn’t understand your comparison of me to Mike other than understanding it’s a delusion of yours to push my buttons. If it’s logical then please explain more about how I’m like Mike. I don’t have any message or mission to help people escape TWI. People have to do that for themselves. Oh and in the context of this argument it is fairly apparent that you do intend the Dostoyevsky post to be aimed at me despite your oooh it’s not aimed at anyone disclaimer. So that is you lying about it to your audience. I respect those whose actions and words garner respect. If your words do not perhaps you should look within.

Or maybe you can stop criticizing people for stupid things like possibly responding to a rhetorical question. That is you failing to convey your message in a logical and kind manner. You really thrive on criticizing my posts. Saying that I sound like Mike is beyond that and simply delusional. My response is you can kiss my entire @$$. My words included 3 rhetorical questions similar to the ones you criticized me for answering. But you can’t take someone giving you the same back. You are remarkably thin skinned for someone that is that obnoxiously critical. Forgive me or not I really could care less. Trying to control someone’s behavior with forgiveness or not is called manipulation. You started the tangential crap with picking at me so you got it back. I’ll stop when you do.

No I expect you to be sharp enough to know I understand what rhetorical questions are and have been responding to you with them since you criticized me for responding to your rhetorical questions. You didn’t pick up on it and have been doing exactly what you criticized me for over the last 3 interactions. Answering rhetorical questions.

To me practically I approach this topic from a “cast your cares upon Me” type of perspective towards Jesus Christ. I toss the concerns about the need for petty revenge upstairs and let him sort it all out. Then the Searcher of Hearts will be the one to determine the need for forgiveness or repaid vengeance in His time. I ain’t got time to carry that load of depression and anger around - screw that haul it to the dump and move on lighter in the heart. Whatever. The approach works ok for me.

Will I understand them better by you answering mine?

So I should stop answering your rhetorical questions then?

Do you really want me to start listing out all the possibilities??? On the anonymous interwebz?

To me that reads “don’t get all high and mighty with your brothers and sisters as your shiz also stinks”. Now the line for all the fundamentalist corrections of my interpretation starts over there ->

100 percent. I haven’t talked to the splinter moglets directly. But that bath water stinks of stolen BS and despair! Which is probably why I haven’t talked to the splinter moglets directly. That is the stupidest damn statement anyway. Who here has actually bathed one of your children, but instead of using clean water you recycled it? Thats exactly what joining a splinter would be like.

No you didn’t say anything about God whatsoever when bringing up forgiveness. From p. 1

Dude I am commenting on a forum not “proclaiming on the internet”. There’s like less than 10 participants here. Maybe you just need to chill a slight bit.

Hmmm. The “utter BS” that OS was referring to pretty much was started by Stayed who held a different position earlier that God did require forgiveness on the part of the wronged. Now he has flipped the script. To me that is clear evidence of either a complete change of heart or of the fact that Stayed is deliberately trolling topics he has no belief in.

The difference between a religion and a cult is what happens when you try to leave.

No I do not. VPW clearly lied about so many things I don’t trust his accounts anywhere. I think he had other motives for many things like the India trip, chimes hour, etc. PFAL included an extended account of a man with a withered hand being healed just like Jesus did. That account has logistical holes in it but the homiletic reason for making it up is very clear. Calling himself “The Teacher” and “The Doctor” are narcissistic terms that also play into his constructed persona. His true personality was narcissistic, mean, and entitled.

Imagine if at all possible that instead of a human father, you have instead an entity that is the Creator of the Universe. Does being unlimited with respect to time and power change any aspect of your “gospel according to STL”? If the only mental model your mind will accept is another entity just like you, what does that say for the future of mankind? If you want to help others escape you have to accept diversity of opinion and belief.

Actually I meant the quote was literally autocorrected. But please carry on with your inner dialogue.

You’re easily entertained. Wait until the real autocorrect power kicks in.

This answer is disengeneous. You are drumming up arguments here not “merely stating” an article quote.

Let me ask you, what does this post have to do with TWI? It more belongs in the “About Faith” sections where people talk about their beliefs or not.