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Interesting numbers, Pat. And interesting information, Mark. I've deinstalled and removed Alexa before. I don't want to rain on your thread either Pat, but I don't use Alexa or anything like it that I can identify and get rid of. Here's a few links out there about Alexa from a Google search, if anyone wants to check them out. There's more. Some say it is spyware, some say it ain't. Most agree with Mark. If it quacks like duck, etc. http://www.felgall.com/brsie9.htm http://www.itellu.com/spyware_alexa.htm http://simplythebest.net/info/spyware/alexa_spyware.html http://www.imilly.com/alexa.htm Personally I don't like the use of these kinds of things, the last thing I want on my browser is another toolbar. I despise intrusive pop ups that say "Tired of Pop Ups?". I'd like 5 minutes alone with the marketers that use these so that I could show them the light. So I've got a pop up blocker, sure. I've gotten Alexa a few times with something else I've installed or downloaded and it comes off immediately using deinstll/programs and I run my spyware software. It's like buying something and finding 20 fliers in the box for other offers. I usually check them out then toss them if I can't use them. Unfortunately some of these come along with things you download as part of the deal. So I just take them off immediately. As a toolbar "assistant" Alexa is probably legit. I just don't need any assistance along those lines. So I'm not getting counted, but it's really intersting to me that so many people that use Way related sites have it. Guess some people benefit from it and like it.

I get it! An' I got it! I think this will work. Grazi! Grazi! Yeah, Sheryl Crow's got a rocker there, pulling from the library of rock riffs with a nod to the Gangster of Love Himself, Steve Miller. Cool tune! Check it out HERE, "Steve McQueen". "I ain't takin' $hit off no one, baby That was yesterday. I'm an all-American rebel Makin' my big getaway. Yeah, y'know it's time, I gotta fly...." A lyric many-a Greasespot can relate to, hey? For some downhome followup, check this chili, "Found Love", an old sweet Jimmy Reed tune redone in a bun by Boz Scaggs. He does it justice. Get your buns toasted and slop on some of Reed a la Boz HERE with "Found Love". Sheryl Crow. The tunes, jeans, the bass ride. Crow knows. You know she knows. :)--> bluzecentral.net - hear the love!

I would agree, Steve! It's the same gif on the same site host I've had it on for a couple years. So I don't know if it has anything to do with that or not, but if it stopped it that's fine by me. But I'm about to cancel with them anyway, so it's no biggie. Nothing about their service, just switching gears to a west coast host. The Calvinator will be back Bluzeman!

Yea, I'll find calvin new digs. Thanks steve!

Me, and my shaaaaaaa a a doh! I took it out. Let's see. Maybe that will help.

Well, thank you! You're swell, too. :o--> :)-->

Well, it's always night time somewhere. :)-->

I have, but on other threads, the "certificate" window, yup. Those are cool names. Musiciansfriend rocks! I like Amazing Sea Monkeys Parakeet and Amazing Sea Monkeys Judge and the Futile Eyelash which could be turned in to The Futile Eyelash and the Amazing Sea Monkeys! with DJ Judge I always thought a good name for a band would be Bro Boy. Sort of a takeoff on Buddy Guy's name. Or a name where the actual name of the band would be different than the name that appeared in print media or advertisements. Like the name you'd read or see could be "Humdinger and the Hotheads" but the real name of the band would be "Peace Bunnies". You'd see Humdinger, but you'd say Peace Bunnies. For uh, example.

Maybe they're written by the same person who sends out their mailers. Usually packed full of brightly colored paper the envelope will have anywhere from 3 to 5 order forms for assorted tapes and such, classes, etc. Getaways. Fun fests. That kind of thing. I always get really blessed when they show up unannounced in our mailbox, as if from out of the blue! Just knowing what's available is so empowering. Really. Honest.

"Bonds Watch - 04!" Is there any other kind of ball? Those ball joints sound kind of kinky, Paw. Uh oh. There goes the conversation. :o-->

Depends, Oaks. Working from a list of core beliefs and attitudes is useful when determining tolerance levels. -religious -political -gender/sex preferences -career/work -hobby/recreation -race -primary language -physical qualities -family relations/size/background -geographical location -body odors/smells -clothing and dress preferences -music/art preferences Based on this list a 3 Tier Tolerance Matrix, or a "3TM" index rating can be generated. 1 difference - a "1", easily tolerated within normal boundaries and activities. 2 differences - a "2", tolerance negotiable, and likely under most circumstances. 3 or more differences - a "10". Tolerance doubtful, since something's obviously very wrong with these kinds of people, things that may not be correctable in a non-professional medical environment. And of course, a "2" must be closely monitored as progression to a "10" is possible at any time, particularly in election years and at the start of the new fall TV season. :D--> :D--> :D--> :D--> :D--> :D--> :D--> :D--> :D--> :D-->

socks... off??? sounds like indecent exposure to me. :D-->

*AAAH!* It's Irish Spring! Well, how's the fam, what's cookin' Sea Monkey pals? Norah Jones, we were going to see her again this year A la but the tickets were sky high. Last year we paid 40 bucks for good seats at the Greek Theater in Berkeley, CA. This year, double and up. Too much.

Well, there goes Plan B. :D--> Makes sounds sense, WW. Trust, choices we make as to what we do, who we listen too. VPW is a good example of what it is to shoot yourself in your own foot. "I've got something that really needs to be heard! It's..." *KAPOWWW!* "OWWW!" Out of action. I see Jesus Christ as "ground zero". The focal point, the core message. In His days on earth people could find him, follow Him. I've grappled with the tendency to see this whole "body of Christ-new man-token gift" thing as a linear path of 1-2-3, me to you to him to her to someone else and then to Christ, and then to God and then back down through everyone again to me. "Hey, down in front, I can't see back here! I told you we should have left early if we wanted to get good seats, honey!" Sign up here, go there, take this class, you have no class, get some class, get a good seat and do it again next week. But it's not that way is it? With Christ you can be last and have the same rights as the first ones who came early, got the t-shirts, brought chairs, saved space with their blankets and have a hella good bar-b-q going. Our relationship to God and Christ is a through all and in us all deal, sort of a peer to peer network with a grand server in the center. His mission - provide a no-stop direct-on path to God. Fellowship is around the life we have now, rooted and grounded in the same thing, fed by the same source. "Party at Ground Zero". :D-->

"Jim, I'm a physician, not a mind reader!" Actually Mike it's just that it's such a surreal mind picture, not that He is or was all-knowing. It's just such a ludicrous idea, given apparently so that you can read into the responses what you've already decided everyone thinks. But relating to the topic, regardless of how a person learns about Jesus Christ, it's Jesus Christ who's the focal point of the "Christian" message. IMO, if PFAL were a success people would talk about Christ and the life of following Him, not PFAL. You don't get orange juice by licking the orange peels, you gotta get personal with that pulp.

Hay-lo. I've been gone for a couple weeks, lost, hungry, thirsty, eating things for food that a goat would puke up and getting water by licking the morning dew off the leaves of plants that I don't think have names but whose pistils can be used to provide the barest of nutrition when ground up and sucked up off a rock. My body hygiene is at full stank, up from 3/4 stank a week ago. No sleep, no food, no water, no light at the end of the tunnel until Sunday when I was belched up out of the dank, sweaty crotch of my computer hutch and crawled out to see the first light of dawn in a new day and heard the sound of children playing outside who I pray will never see the things I've seen and who can breathe the breath of life with purity because somewhere I have to believe there is one more pure clean breath of fresh air left in this sorry world to sustain their innocent laughing lives. My computer got a virus and it's been sent back to it's maker with a tag on the body bag that reads "Have a nice day". I'll be back.

Quack. "Jim, I'm a doctor, not a mathematician! I can't fix a Vulcan's brain patterns!" The worst thing about that belief Mike, is that those who hold to it are usually more than willing to step up and fall on their sword for the cause if it will move it forward. Which makes a good case for evolutionary forces working to eliminate the weaker animals out of the pack but little for the cause of deliverance in Christ. You can pull that pin if you want, just stand waaaaay over there when you do because we're bringin' 'em back alive in the sock drawer.

Heeeeeey. TSRTS.... I just realized your comment may have been meant as a... putdown. Is that what you're doing? Putting me down? Making fun of me? Disparaging me? Me? Moi? socks? This guy? Please clarify this important question for me so that I can sleep tonight. I'll prepare my responses accordingly.

TSRTS, is that like RC, Roman Catholic? :D--> Nope, I'm not wc. I was in the wc program though, 4th. That was a long time ago. Have we passed paths previously? :)--> Or do you just find my replies incomprehensibly reprehensible? :D-->

Shaz, the ethical application of the "if God had to choose" scenario is interesting to explore. I guess I'm taking it as an exception kind of situation. Exceptions will abound in Christianity though when we look at it from a right and wrong doctrine standpoint. So if the proposition is that when "right doctrine", not "error" is what's being presented a person can function by a different standard than what Jesus proposed and Paul taught about responsibility, accountability and core beliefs and practices, we end up in a truly exceptional situation that I find out of whack with the whole of the bible's teachings. But certainly not out of whack when we look at history and what the capabilities are of humans to perform in life. People screw up, fall short, do wrong, etc. To me, the question isn't if God is able to work with imperfect humans. The question is broader to me, "why do seemingly good things happen to and for bad people?" Given that we're all bad at one point or another I think we can all answer it in our own way. People in the bible that are written about did certainly carry out God's "word" who were less than admirable people at times, but the standard we would strive to achieve isn't that. But will it happen? I would say yes, of course. When the question is focused on God's "word" and someone presenting a so-called "right" teaching of it I don't believe the answer is really any different though than it would be for anyone in any of life's matters or endeavors. The same basic rules of life taught by Jesus would apply. Paul taught grace abounds. In practical application I think we see that in the basic way that life appears to be set up and to progress. If we all physically died immediately because we did one or two things that were wrong for us or others we'd all be dead. But we see death in many forms as wrong doing progresses repetitively over time. Sooner or later, we all come to our end. What goes on between birth and death appears to determine the quality of the life we have. Basic stuff, right? If someone were to gouge people for water in Florida right now, charging 20 dollars a gallon for purified water, when they sold it for 2 bucks a week ago, we'd be aghast. Immoral. Unethical! Bad motives, selfish, despicable!!! But the person doing it might say "it's business, I'm a business man! And I got water, you need it!" Sure, a bad human, good business. Replace the water with the "word"...now it's alright? Good business but bad human. Bad human!!!

Yeah, that's about it Shaz, it would seem to me after reading that section. The thing is, John's god sounds like a chess player, but is he a good one? If he HAD to make the choice, he'd want his "word" to be spread by someone with "wrong motives", rather than someone who's motives were right, but they were in "error". So as long as you're making the right moves, you're stylin'. John's god might not prefer that route, but he'll endure it for the sake of his "word". Everybody's gotta make choices. .... Matt. 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God. Mt 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. Uh oh. Jesus says that without the action the intent of a persons thoughts is like the action itself. Buuuut my motives don't have to be right with John's god, as long as I'm right about the "word". Mt 15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. Double uh oh. These guys say all the right things about their god, but inside, they're in ciao town. No deal, babeeee. Doesn't wash. Scratch it out! Interpolations, we got interpolations! Triple uh oh. Johns' god contradicted the foundational teachings of Jesus which He repeated over and over in many places that God desires the heart, intent and motives of a person to be right towards God and their fellow man and paraphrased, they can spew all the funny stories and hot bible they want but if they're really after the recognition, money, babes and vindication they, in a word, suck. Badly. My whole bible just fell to pieces, I guess VPW's not so proud of me anymore.

--> No, wait.... ;)--> Phil. 1:15-19 15 Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will: 16 The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds: 17 But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel. 18 What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice. 19 For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ, ----------------------------------- It doesn't imply that at all. Anyone who can read Ye Olde English can see that. What it says is that despite the contentious efforts of people who took advantage of his imprisonment to advance themselves and their teaching, Christ would be still preached and for even that much, Paul was grateful. But Paul doesn't say that given a choice, God would prefer that or that God would make that choice. I'd put it under "lemonade out of lemons". It's a strong reminder that we can, at the least, be thankful to some extent for even a self serving "teacher" who teaches about Jesus Christ under pretense and for the wrong reasons. You'd think God would want better for his children though.

Possible Thread Topics and Titles: "Hi, Am I Really Me?" (might do well in a new 'Philosphical Discussion' forum) "Hi, Will The Real You Please Stand Up Over There, You're In My Spot." (Book Forum) "Hi, I'm Lon Jinn, The Last Jedi." (Movies - Star Wars Discusson Thread) "Hi, No, Really. HI." ('Sincerity-The New Paradigm' forum) :D-->

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Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard...what planet were they from if not Mars! I suspect that Amazing Sea Monkeys! invented rock and roll to communicate the primal message of love and sharing! You know Buddy Holly knew. "Words of Love", "Everyday"...Holly knew. He was from Texas...Toms' from Texas. Put it together people! It's right there and it's amazing! It fits! Since rock and roll embraces all styles and has borrowed from all early American cultures, it makes a good platform from which to launch this reissuing of the original! But I really dig that Celtic stuff too. There's got to be a text that will open this up. We'll find it, I know. It has to be there! Thanks for the feedback, A la. I'm going to add another (brace yerself, I'm easily encouraged) toon here. I'm not sure why you can't load them, Brother Lingo. --> This one's shorter. You can always right click and save as, might help. Maybe it's skipping due to the Dark Monkey's mischief!!! He's been laying low of late. DANG that one, I do!! A blues rock melange, started as a jam with the kidlets, one guitar, bass and drums and one overdubbed at the end. Got too weird at the end, so it fades. It's got vocals, but that version hasn't been finished yet. Key of C. Needs harp! Check it out - You're Comin' Home With Me