Rocky

"Mad Dog" Greg Maddox is DONE.

Installation in the HoF currently scheduled for the summer of 2013.

Rocky, you booger, keep on being you. Happeezzee burfdazzzz and many much more. I am so sorry I missed this thread before now.

:) TU

happy birthday dear rocky

Thanks Excie and Hiway and everyone!

Obviously, one possible problem is skimming...

At some point, however, the feds required churches to provide statements for donors to use to back up (use for evidence of) amounts claimed as deductions for tax purposes. I don't remember when that change may have taken place...

Oh boy! I can't wait to see what your next essay will be.

NEW YORK (AP)—Career steals leader Rickey Henderson heads 10 first-time candidates on this year’s Hall of Fame ballot, joining holdovers Mark McGwire and Jim Rice—eligible for the final time.

Other newcomers are Jay Bell, David Cone, Ron Gant, Mark Grace, Jesse Orosco, Dan Plesac, Greg Vaughn, Mo Vaughn and Matt Williams.

Just 23 players are on the ballot, the smallest group ever. Holdovers include Harold Baines, Bert Blyleven, Andre Dawson. Tommy John, Don Mattingly, Jack Morris, Dale Murphy, Dave Parker, Tim Raines, Lee Smith and Alan Trammell.

A 10-time All-Star who played from 1979-2003, Henderson holds the career records for steals (1,406) and runs (2,295), and his 2,190 walks are second to Barry Bonds’ 2,558. Henderson also is first in caught stealing with 335.

Henderson played for nine teams, winning the 1990 AL MVP award with Oakland.

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So, will anyone make it in this year besides Ricky?

Hey Friends... you're wonderful! And Lifted, HB to your son too! :)

She was a very dear, sweet friend. She fell asleep at 6PM surrounded by her beloved daughters and friends.

That's truly sad news. :(

Were you one of the friends with her at that time?

A friend of mine who was pretty high up on the twi ladder questioned Rosie about the dwindling ABS.

Her answer was something like it doesn't really concern me because we have more than 40 million in savings.

Twi is just a money grab that's all.

I think they would have done more good for mankind selling something tangible like "reading glasses" or something we could really use now in our old age.

I dunno... I get my reading glasses at the local dollar store... and pay ONLY $1.00 for a pair... they'd have to find something they could do better than the dollar stores...

Uhmmmm-- That question was posed rhetorically, no?

I think more than one of Penworks's questions were rhetorical in nature.

You mean beyond the notion that they don't believe in loans or credit?

Well, I suppose... but I was thinking that insight was someone else's, since I never had to deal with it while I was still involved with them...

We switched our insurance coverage to Geico a couple of months ago. I was a little nervous about doing it, because I prefer someone who has an office right here in town. We raised our deductibles and between the 2 saved $100 PER MONTH.

Well . . . this weekend it happened. Someone ran a stop sign and hit Sushi's 2008 Cobalt, damaging the front end. The car is still driveable and no one was hurt, thankfully.

Sooooo . . . called this morning to file a claim. They were very kind and helpful. They will be sending an adjuster out to estimate the damage and repair, they will send paperwork to the girl's insurance company to recover our $500 deductible for us, and if we would like they will give us $30 a day for a rental car for up to a month.

We are early in the process, so it may be a bit soon to say for sure, but so far it appears the service is satisfactory.

I've had geico for a couple of years (and no complaints from me). Last spring, I was in a very minor collision which happened to be my fault... (I backed into a moving car)... I made one phone call and (except for my rates going up next time the premium was due) it was over and done with from my perspective. They WERE friendly (as indicated in the commercials) and my rates didn't increase very much.

Thanks for the info Rocky, , sounds like you know a thing or two about the subject, I wonder why they aren't interested in giving loans? Is it compliance with the no debt stance of the ministry, or is it a no service stance from the CU?

I sorta went to college to learn about accounting... but last worked in the field (as an accountant) 10 years ago.

And it's been much longer since I've had any contact with twi, so there's no chance I have any insight as to why they aren't loaning money to their 1000+ (credit union) members (according to the credit union statement).

According to Gunnison County Records, two different parcels are separately owned.

Camp Gunnison Inc. is the owner of a 5.5 acre property valued at just under $448,000 in 2007. The 3 previous years it was $267,000

The property is tax exempt and the owner address is Box 328, NK, Ohio. This property has a 2000 sqft house effectively bult in 1981 with an attached garage, a shed and a barn.

Way International owns the other property. If you search, put Way international without "The". It took me awhile to find it trying other versions of names. The address is Legal Department, Box 328......

This property is 129.59 acres and is valued at $4,497,090 up from 3.2 million in 2006. This is the total of $1.654 miilion for the land and $2.842 million in improvements. Their numerous buildings are listed there. The photo of the Family Commons is taken from a newspaper article. The property is also listed as exempt from taxes.

~HAP

And nobody should be alarmed that the county records do not agree (in the value) with that shown on the combined balance sheet filed with the Arizona Corporation Commission. The purpose of the county records is to value them for calculation of property taxes (if not exempt) and the balance sheet reflects cost less accumulated depreciation (as previously noted, for the buildings, equipment and machinery, but NOT on the land).

Rocky, not according to this doc that Goey posted in another thread, enter 66066 for the Charter Number then click FIND at the top, it appears to show no loan activity, they aren't and haven't given any loans at all in the recent past.

http://www.ncua.gov/indexdata.html

Yes... I see that. The bulk of their assets are in other securities...

Loans WOULD still be assets, if they did that.

The Way Credit Union looks like it's not loaning any money, and is only being used as a depository, although it looks like they are investing their assests somewhere. Bankrate.com lists them as 3 star rating out of 5 stars for stability, indicates no loan activity at all, and with $11,335,000.00 in assests.

Here is a free data base for anyone that wants to look up the way international in any state from a central starting point. Although you could google eitheir Corporate Commission or Secretary of State for each state and find the same info too.

http://soswy.state.wy.us/Business/Business50.aspx

Aside from the credit union, from reviewing the Arizona docs on their website, it looks like twi as a corporation wasn't doing too much investing of assests while D*n Wierw*lle was alive, but they are now.

From Ohio's docs it looks like Rosie has submitted new legal docs in an effort to make twi more like a regular corporate entity wich looks like it reigns in the old skimming off the top financially by the sticky fingered BOD.

http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/reports/rwserv...in=200719000720

Loans ARE assets on the financial statements of a credit union.

For the borrower, a loan is a liability. For the lender, the loan is an asset.

Accounting definition of an asset is something used in a business to generate revenue. Loans, for credit unions generate interest income.

But the financial statement subject to this thread discussion does not show any credit union activity. However, some of the temporary investments might include deposits in the credit union.

Btw, from the perspective of a credit union, deposits represent liabilities.

I wonder what those assets are? that seems too low to include land and improvments unless they're insanely undervalued.

It's net of accumulated depreciation. Accumulated depreciation is listed on that statement, for Gunnison, at what appears to be about $6.94 million. Accum Depr is a way to expense the cost of an asset over its useful life. It doesn't apply to land, but does apply to buildings, machinery and equipment.

Net asset (book) value does not necessarily reflect current or fair market value (FMV), which would only show up on the financial statements when a transaction (sale of the property, for example) were to take place.

M. Owings used to pinch hit once in a while--I think? Right Rocky? You are a DBacks guy?

Yes he did and yes I am. One game in 2007, Owings went 4 for 4 and was the winning pitcher... that was exciting.

Could somebody please tell me why the address is given as being in Phoenix, AZ? What's that got to do with being in Ohio?

Does this statement also account for assets held at Gunnison and Indiana?

The combined balance sheet does show the value of assets related to Gunnison broken out seperately. Indiana is NOT shown. Didn't they sell off the Rome City property?

Headquarters, The Way of the USA, International Outreach and Gunnison are each shown seperately then combined on that combined balance sheet.

My interpretation, without additional detail from their records, would be that any properties (in the US) owned outsite of New Knoxville (like maybe houses in Cedar Rapids or Toledo, etc) would be in the Way of the USA (except for Gunnison), any in Canada or any other country would be in the International Outreach.

This filing with the Arizona Corporation Commission does NOT include a statement of revenue and expenditures/expenses. So, there is no way to clearly identify what they took in by way of ABS.

It shows accrued payroll (a liability) and accrued pension liability, but no detail as to how many people are involved in those aggregate amounts.

Gunnison assets ARE included with a book value (it's very difficult to read, so this is only approximate) of $3.4 million (net of accumulated depreciation on buildings, equipment and machinery).

they have a column for camp gunnison on their financial statement but it sure doesn't look like the assets are on there.

Perhaps you were looking only at the CURRENT assets, which total approx $68K. Long term assets (for Gunnison) are listed at $3,430,247.06.

Here are some more locations as well.

D & B

To find out what each listing at the Dun and Bradstreet site means, one would have to pay money to look at the reports...

I heard the real reason the Yankees are after Sabbathia is to replace Giambi's bat!! LOL Pitch one day--DH the other three. (They always want EVERYBODY, but it is a save face thing for Hank)

Then they should go after Micah Owings... he could be had from the Reds for a lot less than CC in free agency...

I wonder how the rest of his presidency would have gone, and if he would have been as popular when it was over as he was before that awful day.

I wonder that too... especially wondering what our involvement in Vietnam would have been had he lived.

I was in 4th grade at Sacred Heart (Catholic) School in Rochester, NY. It was a sunny day but we were old enough to feel the shock and sadness.

Hey, we have something in common then...shall we try for more when my youngest son's birthday comes up in 8 days?

Sounds like we won't have to try...

DP age 4

:)

Yea he is a great kid , he has been so much fun to watch. We're very very lucky to live in such a great baseball time in Boston.

'll let the little big man express my sentiment-

I agree... all except for that ugly wad of 'baccy in his mouth in that last pic...

Well then you could probably take a pretty good shot if it were a guessing game. Anyway, I also didn't want to imply I knew this person well; I just remember her as I do many others with my infamous TWI memory.

Lemme see, some 9th corps at HQ that fall of 1979,

RN & CN, JK, BP & SP, VD, LR, DB, and I know I dont have them all...

P.S. You have a list...is it of all who were in, or graduated, or what...e.g. a list of graduated 8th corps would not have me on it...

The 9th corps list? The answer is YES. Okay, I'll clarify... it starts with the initial housing list from Sept 5, 1978, has some added (who finished with the 9th but didn't start with the 9th) and also has names crossed off (those who didn't graduate). I am on the list but crossed off, because I didn't graduate.