WordWolf

Next song. "You don't need a penny just to hang around. But if you've got a nickel, won't you lay your money down? Over on the corner there's a happy noise. People come from all around to watch the magic boy."

This SHOULD be Manfred Mann and "BLINDED BY THE LIGHT."

"I don't ever remember any TWI leader discouraging us from reading the gospels. Yes, at times in TWI the gospels were used merely to augment the epistles, but that's better than what churches did...totally ignore the epistles." [To this day, in ever Roman Catholic mass, there is a reading from the Epistles. Many modern churches teach about the Epistles, and teach living like Jesus said in the Gospels AND was said in the Epistles. There's plenty of sound doctrine in churches today. Please remember that you are making errors in your doctrine right now because we ALL do- bur you give yourself a pass on that and let the churches have both barrels. In the neighborhood where I grew up, right now, there's a RC parish that walks the walk and talks the talk, teaching fairly well from the Epistles and teaching RIGHT ACTION- like helping others, and getting out in the community to actually help them! That's something any ex-twi person should try sometime. It's very different than just reciting Scripture and feeling superior. Not far from where I once worked is a large Pentecostal church that teaches Scripture in a manner you'd find comfortable- coupled with practices of The Spirit (their celebrant completely discarded the schedule for one of their services because he was advised =by revelation- that healing was a bigger priority, so the entire service was given over for prayers for healing.) There's definitely plenty of churches out there where the Epistles are NOT ignored.] "There is nothing that could happen in a 'so called' cult...that couldn't also happen in a 'so called' mainstream Christian church. Adolescents getting molested in a catholic church is as bad or worse than anything that could happen in a "cult". " [It's a disgrace either way, but the odds on it happening are much greater in a cult for many reasons, and there's methods of redress in a church whereas in a cult, the victim can be silenced and destroyed to the point of committing suicide by the cult leader (vpw certainly did that one.) a sensible person will manage and MINIMIZE THEIR RISKS. You can get run over when walking on the sidewalk- but a sensible person crosses at the corners and crosswalks and waits for the traffic lights, and watches carefully as they cross. They don't say "Well, I can get run over anytime" and just dash out into oncoming traffic! That's a rather silly defense for being in a cult- but it's been brought up before and refuted before. Some people never learn.] "The argument that VPs sins negate the possibility that he was right about anything is absurd...just simply not true. Imagine the most heinous crimes possible. Murder, sexual assault, theft, etc. Imagine that I, Johniam, am guilty of those. Then imagine yourself...not guilty of any of those. Each of us (myself and yourself) say that 2 plus 2 equals 4. Am I less correct than you??? We're ALL sinners. We ALL deserve the death Jesus endured for us. That doesn't mean that any one of us cannot tell many truths." [ It IS absurd. BECAUSE it is absurd, I wish you pro-vpw people would stop inventing that one and putting it in people's mouths! NOBODY claimed that to any of you. I even ran a poll a long time ago, and nobody claimed that position even under anonymity. I've mentioned that before, as well. Selective memory or an inability to give up a deeply-held belief? Why would that one be "deeply held?" Because it's ANOTHER piece of nonsense invented to cling to and hide behind when others are saying sensible, inconvenient truths. "Oh, don't listen to them, they hold this ridiculous viewpoint!" they can say, and go back to believing all sorts of things that were successfully refuted years or decades ago.] "If you don't want to fellowship with someone whom you KNOW is guilty of such and such, then you don't have to. I got into the word in 1976. If I had found out in, say, 1980 that VP was doing what he did with women, then I may have had a real problem with continuing beyond the people I knew in twig. I really can't say conclusively how I would have responded." {If you would have considered it AN OPTION to continue, that says a lot about the error of your walk- something taught rather extensively to you BY vpw. Surprise, surprise, he soft-pedaled the consequences of his types of sins, while still hiding them from you.] 2 Timothy 4:14 King James Version "Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works:" I Corinthians 5:11-12 King James Version 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? [For someone who supposedly reads and respects the Epistles, this should be easy, But, according to you, we DON'T judge them that are within" no matter what the apostle Paul wrote. Whose words matter more to you? That will determine your doctrine and practices- as it has.] (snip)

[Two sentences there go together nicely. There was no "hate" or "trip" or "hate trip" demonstrated in that video. Anyone who thinks they get that from this video is obviously projecting- seeing things that aren't there because that's what they WANT to see. Why would someone so divorce themselves from reality to see a 12-minute video so completely the opposite of what it was? In this case, delusion allows the person who "sees" the "hate trip" to dismiss the content of the video. They have an excuse to refrain from addressing the uncomfortable issues brought up in it- so, delusion as a method of avoiding "inconvenient truths." That's followed up here with someone who thinks that pfal and twi emphasized Jesus and his love. Anyone who could spend time with vpw and get that is probably prone to seeing things that aren't there- like a "hate trip" in a calm video, or compassionate altruism in a man who plagiarized and deceived to make a comfortable living, then added rape on top because he could get away with it.]

This is Natalie Imbruglia's "lying naked on the floor" song. Actually, the title is "TORN", but it's amazing how often I've heard it referred to by the "other name." Strictly speaking, it's a COVER of "Torn", but I never remember the name of the singer who wrote it. Somewhere, there's a video of this song with clips of Gumby edited to match the lyrics.

It's obvious Human "remembers" this song, so I'll call it for him and clear the round. Besides, the title is VERY idiosyncratic (I would have taken any portion of the correct title as correct.) The actual title of this song is "Carn Evil 9- First Impression Part TWO." Part One starts with an instrumental, and the lyrics begin, eventually going to "step inside, hello! We've a most amazing show, you'll enjoy it all we know, step inside step inside." That's why Part Two begins "Welcome BACK my friends..." The artist is not required. In this case, it was NOT "Yes" (nor "Yess.") It was EMERSON, LAKE and PALMER. It's arguably the most famous song they ever did, and arguably the most famous song off it's album, "Brain Salad Surgery." (That same album also had "Lucky Man,", which would probably be the most famous song if it wasn't this one.) So, Human's turn!

We need another quote or another clue. I'm thinking Raf was giving us a hint.

"Well, if I'm going to comment, I need to sit through it. " [OK, 12 minutes isn't that long, but it's long enough to analyze and to make observations about the content or the presentation. What did you get from it?] "This video is nothing more than a guy thinking evil and going on a 12 minute rant about it. There's more. You can tell by listening to his vocal flow, that he's obsessed. He's run those thoughts through his mind rapid fire for decades. Martindale wasn't that bad when he talked about Jews and homos. Even VPs teaching 'the way of life and death' wasn't that out of control. The guy's a whack job. " [That's a gross MIScharacterization of this video. I know, because I just watched it, and the presentation is completely different from your claims. The speaker was calm and kept to his points. There was no "rant". Furthermore, there was no indication from his speech that he was "obsessed." As a student of Psychology AND Human Communication, I've studied this out before. There's no "vocal flow" of "obsessed" there. He spoke calmly- and you said he was worse than men who were known to scream AND hurl insults at everyone they disagreed with. This man "disagreed without being disagreeable." All of that CAN be catalogued independently of the content. That you missed the mark so completely reflects a lack of understanding of making such an analysis, and an inability to separate his message (of which you disapprove) from his presentation (which you distorted because it contains a message you dislike. I try not to do that even of people I strongly dislike. ] "Victor Paul Wierwille's Power for abundant living class did indeed do one thing very well.....it drew a line in the sand which clearly separated mainstream Christianity, which is STILL based on man made traditions not found in scripture...from biblical research, which is based on the firm belief that the words in the bible as originally given by God, are truth, God breathed, whatever you want to call it. " [The "line in the sand" was between all other Christians- who were maligned and insulted at every turn, characterized as ignorant and useless- and vpw and his students, who were characterized as the ONLY Christians who knew anything and were any good for anything. "Them" were characterized as unable to read the Bible or see anything past their traditions, and "us" were characterized as the only Christians with The Truth because we had vpw's "God-given" understanding of the Bible, and no traditions of our own. Those are ALL demonstrably false, all the way down to twi having made its own traditions. An inability to see the distinction DECADES LATER does NOT do you credit.] "I've attended a few churches since leaving TWI. Those people are mostly Christians, not glassy eyed robots. They know a lot of the same stuff we do. " [Yes! They're people "FOR WHOM CHRIST DIED." As are you.] "But they still believe Jesus is God, that dead people aren't really dead, they don't understand incorruptible seed ( they think they can be saved one moment and unsaved the next), some of them think they might go to hell for playing outside on Sunday. THAT should be regarded as brainwashing! " [ It's shocking how UNimportant those are in the scheme of things. If you obey Jesus because he answers directly to God, says exactly what God would say, and commands your fealty as your lord who is The Son of God, or if you obey Jesus because he is God the Son himself, the results from your end work out the same! If you obey God because you love Him and want to make Him proud of you, or if you obey God because you believe it's mandatory, the results from your end work out the same! Although, in fairness, under vpw's system, actually obeying God is less likely because it's given a LOW PRIORITY. As for "brainwashing", you don't understand the concept if that's what you think.] "People don't join cults because they're "brainwashed"...they join because they want more substance than they're ever going to get from their church. Not everybody feels that way, but, obviously, enough people do so there will always be small religions that spring up which bigotted mainstream ministers will be likely to label as "cults". " ]People don't ALL join cults for ONE reason or the SAME reason. Some do join because they are brainwashed. Also, people IN cults who are still in the honeymoon phase really do think what it's like inside is superior to everything else outside, like all the churches out there. If you don't understand what brainwashing is, nor cults, you're not going to be able to tell the difference between a small church and a cult. BTW, vpw was fond of making them sound synonymous because that served his purposes. You don't need to fall for that anymore.]

https://flipboard.com/topic/argentina/comedy-of-errors-in-argentine-tv-shakespeare-mix-up/a-AiMBvcdnSGqzETyvQ3UZZg%3Aa%3A3199692-cdde161c7e%2Fco.uk https://www.memesita.com/the-driver-who-got-confused-and-announced-the-death-of-playwright-william-shakespeare/

All right, normally there's nothing funny about an obituary. In this particular case, there was. The second person in the UK to get approved for-and receive- a COVID vaccine just passed away- from a stroke. Not covid, from heart trouble, which is not unusual at his age and health level. Here's where it begins to get noticed- if you saw this mentioned when he was vaccinated, it was because his name is Bill Shakespeare. The second person in the UK to get the vaccine was William Shakespeare. Now comes the funny part- not that he passed away, but that it was news, and sometimes someone goes a little fast when reading the news on television. I myself remember hearing that Alfred Hitchcock had just died at age 30, and the reporter closed the story by saying, "again, Alfred Hitchcock is dead at 80". with the last number pronounced slower and louder, as if she was trying to pretend we misheard her. So, the news about Bill Shakespeare's death...... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/28/william-shakespeare-death-mistake-argentinian-tv https://www.nydailynews.com/snyde/ny-william-shakespeare-author-dead-covid-20210528-tcbxptpi55g7tlk55w5ckis7fq-story.html

"Welcome back, my friends to the show that never ends, we're so glad you could attend, come inside, come inside."

Yes, most of the season has passed. We're probably going to binge-watch the season, or something.

Tom Cruise Interview With A Vampire Brad Pitt

I can hear those lines in my head, but that's it. Any chance this is "Roll Over Beethoven"?

I feel bad for JIM HENSON PRODUCTIONS. They did a great job on this movie, and it still flopped at the box office. (It did poorly in the US, no word how it did in Greece, let alone Crete.)

You appear to know both the babe and the correct movie.

Took me a bit, but I agree "Friday" isn't a bad guess, either. And the casting there was definitely meant to include a bit of an inside joke, considering her husband.

I beheld entirely too much of him in "A Knight's Tale." Mrs Wolf says that some British guys have an obsession with their rear, which leads to them showing up in movies and so on. Then again, in some other movies I like, I didn't see him at all. Considering a later role, there's a bit of irony of not being able to use sight to recognize him.

Yes. I was getting ready to mention that "Harry Alonzo Longabaugh" is also known as "The Sundance Kid."

This movie eventually gained a cult following. When it was released, it was a box office disappointment- it had a budget of $25 million and the US theatrical run resulted in a box office of $12.9 million. The director was quite despondent about that- he had been hoping to direct serious and weighty films, and that never worked (neither did this), so he gave up directing and his career went into a rough patch. Personally, I think that's a shame, because he had a genuine gift for making millions of people happy, and entertaining children and families. The first draft of the script was by Terry Jones, and a number of people did work on later drafts (like George Lucas) but received no writing credit for it. The film has a main actor and a main actress. Nobody seems to be able to remember any other actors from the movie unless they're really fans of the movie. Both the main actor and main actress were in a few roles before this. IMHO, this is the first movie that either of them is actually REMEMBERED FOR. Both have acted since, and both have had successful careers (although his was not primarily in acting, hers is.) He has passed away, she's still alive. This 1980s film's main actress uses her legal name as her stage name. This movie put her on the map, but an early 1990s film re-introduced her to Hollywood's short attention span. The main actor's legal name is David Jones, but he changed it to David Bowie so he wouldn't be confused with Davy Jones of The Monkees. This movie was produced by George Lucas. The main actress was introduced to the public with this movie. In between doing lots of indie films, she's been re-introduced, so to speak, in a blockbuster alongside Timothy Dalton, a different one alongside Keanu Reeves, and was in 2 different Marvel movies, playing 2 different characters (the second time, you may not have recognized her at all.) She's currently doing television- for some value of "television."

This is definitely not "The Man Who Fell to Earth." This is also not "Legend."

Roy Loomis Wade Lewis Hank Wilson Owen Legate Paul Bratter Charlie Reeves Harry Alonzo Longabaugh Christopher Cooper David Chappellet Halsy Knox Jeremiah Johnson Bill McKay John Archibald Dortmunder Hubbell Gardiner Joseph Turner Tom Logan

Ok here's an older one that I THINK is easy to recognize. "One pill makes you larger, and one pill makes you small."

"Sorry, Twinky. I just don't buy your perspective, that the PFAL class (and books) is merely man-given." Try not to be too shocked that nearly everybody else doesn't buy that pfal was 'the God-given PFAL class.' "If you look at my perspective, OF COURSE God is allowed to give revelation for a class that would bless many." I'd say we all agree that God is "ALLOWED" to do so, that He COULD do so. He can also make purple cows and flying buffaloes from which we would get buffalo wings. Hard to get converts when you don't go past "He COULD do this, therefore he DID do this, and you'd see that if you adopted my worldview for a few months." " I saw its benefits in the past, as well as currently." Twinky asked a legitimate question of you, and tossed you a "softball." You declined to answer, and are just being vague on that. Your choice, but it stifles discussion and weakens your case that you REFUSE to get specific at your leisure. " But we debated this for many years. You are not bringing up anything new." But he asked about your experience. That wasn't "debating." Other people recognize parts of a conversation. We can discuss things in a manner that they aren't continuous commercials for our pet cause. We can also have casual discussions ABOUT our pet causes. It's not too late for you to TRY to pick up those skills. "Sorry to ignore you Wordwolf. Too many details; too many repeats." "Too many repeats" is probably not the best complaint for you, of all people, to lead with. On the other hand, you didn't need to comment on what I said- I just recapped for those tuning in late. You could just stipulate to all that and move on, which is what I expected and you pretty much did. I did post that I was recapping for the others. "I hope your attention to detail helps in your ministering to people." It does, and generally in ways you wouldn't expect it to. I've also found it seems to work best when mixed with humility. "Why would you be more curious about my publishing success than in my little mirror explanation to cman here? " I thought you'd said all there was to say on your mirror explanation, and I didn't think there was anything to add that wasn't already said. So, I thought of that as an effectively-closed topic. On the other hand, your casual mention of both publishing AND being quoted in someone's reference work raised a few OBVIOUS questions. Since you normally refuse to give direct answers, I thought I'd try a direct question AGAIN and see if, just maybe, you'd answer directly anyway. You're also not the first person I've asked about a book they'd written, and you probably won't be the last. "Writing a book is one thing; publishing another. Self-publishing is easy and free nowadays. I'm more interested in the circulation of the ideas than paper printing and "official" fame. Most of what I write in recent years on free will first appears in discussion forums with others who are focused on this difficult topic." See, that's a persistent problem, and one that undermines your credibility. There's no attempt at CLEAR communication- there was an IMPLICATION, DELIBERATE "wiggle-room" was inserted, all to make people GUESS at what you meant, all so later you could deny it and accuse people of misunderstanding you after your DELIBERATE poor communication. Did you self-publish? Was it a print book, or an e-book if you did self-publish? The reference book- was it also self-published by an amateur author, or did a professional publishing house sign off on the thing? You INSINUATED that it was all self-publishing, that you made an e-book or something, and someone else did the same and quoted yours. There's no clear statement to that effect, either way. BTW, if you DID self-publish an e-book, there's nothing wrong with that. However, your casual mention of the book's publication sure made it look like you wanted people to think you were a formally-published writer- which is a much bigger accomplishment and, it seems, wasn't warranted.

I was typing in a hurry, so, yes, I ended up with a typo. (If you rush with an international keyboard, you sometimes have typos that cluster around where you put quotation marks.) The current one isn't universally-known, but I happen to like it. "MARY JANE'S LAST DANCE", by Tom Petty. (The mention of "Indiana" in the opening line makes it easier to connect to a later line, of course.) BTW, even for Petty, that was a weird-@$$ video.