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Romancing the Stone Kathleen Turner Undercover Blues

Just so I can say I asked, that's not "Zeppo" Marx, is it?

I remember this because I knew a guy that had a gun-rack but no longer had A gun, let alone many guns that would necessitate a gun-rack.

No idea, but I've at least heard it before.

Colin Clive played him in the Universal films, Peter Cushing played him in the Hammer films. The first 3 I named all played him in different adaptations from 1973, if you can believe it. "Sting" played him in "The Bride." Raul Julia was in Roger Corman's "Frankenstein Unbound." Kenneth Branagh was in "Mary Shelley's Frankenstein." Samuel West was in "Van Helsing." Alec Newman played him in 2004. Aden Young is in "I, Frankenstein" (2014) and James McAvoy in "Victor Frankenstein" (2015). That's slated for this year with Daniel Radcliffe as Igor.

That's him.

No one so uneducated.

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The humble peons heard it out on the field, as well. Once again, vpw took a single verse and invented an entire UNBIBLICAL doctrine around it. We were told we were "the household" and were better than other Christians because we WERE "the household." In fact, one tape on giving broke down giving into the following priorities: A) the household, first and foremost. Give there FIRST. B) other Christians. If you can't FIND another "believer" to give to, give to another Christian. "Even if he does believe there's 800 gods..." C) Anyone else. "If you can't find any Christians....um, help the nicest pagan you know." Whether other Christians could even be called "believers" was a subject of disagreement. Certainly they were to be derided whenever possible, since they were referred to with names like "churchianity" and their leaders educated in "theological cemeteries". But we were definitely in a higher tier than all other Christians- that was straight from vpw and came up in a variety of ways throughout twi- and continues to come up in groups led by ex-twi survivors, especially leaders trained in twi.

Branagh HAS done a lot of Shakespeare, but that doesn't mean ALL his roles have been Shakespeare. This is not one of them.

I'm still curious about something. If that current stfi office-holder ever posts again, I'm curious what he thinks about the lack of disclosure. He's one of the people in charge of a group that has had at least 2 public scandals of doctrine and practice, and he seems completely uninformed of them! He said he was uninformed about MOMENTUS, and that's remarkable. (We have plenty of information about it here for him.) I didn't get to ask him about the "personal prophecy" boondoggle that Lynn even allowed to trash his own marriage. (We have plenty of information about it here for him.)

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"Arrow" seems to have survived the recurring role nicely.

Got to be that movie I slept through, what was it again? "Superman Returns." With Ray Palmer and Kevin Spacey.

Yes. Too easy?

Actually, these are all actors who shared/share a common role.

Ok, I looked up John Belushi's IMDb page and confirmed my answer. So, my turn. Leonard Whiting Udo Kier Robert Foxworth Colin Clive Gordon Sumner Samuel West

This cult-favorite has also been made into a Broadway/traveling musical, and is regularly aired on Halloween night for fans watching at home. Susan Sarandon and Barry Bostwick are probably embarrassed this movie is on their respective resumes.

Son of the Mask Ben Stein Ferris Buehler's Day Off

But she appeared in an episode of "Big Bang Theory" something like 5 years ago, so just showing up isn't the kiss of death. Ted Mc Ginley once pointed out that most shows that brought him in survived a few more seasons on the air. (He never commented on their QUALITY, just their SURVIVAL.)

That's it. Gene Hackman, ad-libbing the end of his scene as the blind hermit. I-gor, when meeting the young doctor.

Might be "Brother Bluto" from "Animal House", making this JOHN BELUSHI.

"Wait. Where are you going? I was going to make Espresso." "My grandfather used to work for your grandfather. Of course the rates have gone up."

He wanted to "get ahead" but always tried to skip putting in the work, in research or anything else. He was a lightweight compared to Stiles- but was good at performing so he could FAKE Stiles and just repeat what Stiles said and pretend he came up with it- and that's exactly what he did. He used the denomination for a paycheck and a platform (they gave him an initial audience and prestige as a pastor), but spent his actual EFFORTS outside the hierarchy so he could find something separate. He wanted something successful but separate so he could avoid both accountability and the need to split the money and credit with anyone else- so that's what he did. By his own admissions to the corps, he viewed ministry as a possible career path, and approached it exactly that way- for money and a steady paycheck. He was perfectly happy breaking the law and being unethical as long as he got away with it, and came up with rationalizations as to why it was fine for him to do it but wrong for everyone else. All of that's demonstrated by what he actually DID. Naturally, if one wants to ignore what the man DID and only go by what he SAID he did, one is free to do that. One would be a fool, but one if free to BE a fool.

Ok, let's see what's being completely re-written here. No, nobody mentioned visiting a church a single time- these were the "regulars." No, nobody mentioned "owning anyone"-but trying to get people to convert from one group to another is a big deal. How do YOU feel when someone supposedly is in the staff for your group, but quietly tries to get them to leave it and join another? Right- double standard. It's fine if it's to JOIN your group, to get them to LEAVE your group it's unprincipled. And no, I wouldn't buy it for a second if you claimed you'd actually be fine with it. You'd yell. Why didn't they fire vpw? Speculating here, but they were probably nicer people than him, and considered the consequences to a minister of firing him from his employment. Also, he never announced "I'm looking for something to REPLACE your group and I'm trying to take the congregation with me,"- he was quiet. Also, as an accomplished liar, it's obvious he had a pious SPIN to tell people if he was caught. "Oh, I want to bless this congregation more so they have more reason to stay, so I keep looking." That's his style. So, they were slow to think he was just in it for the paycheck, and he had ready answers that made him sound sincere. Nice people are easier to con. Nobody said his congregation was "brainwashed". He WAS trying to draw them away and have them loyal to HIM and answerable to HIM EXCLUSIVELY, so call that what you will. As for their previous church, it's always possible to improve on something or at least add an interesting change of pace. (A one-shot, interesting event isn't necessarily a bad thing, in and of itself.) vpw, naturally, got people to show up partly by convincing them they WERE "lacking" something in the congregation- and sold a few of them on the idea that's what he was doing-looking for what they lacked. Looking coldly at the facts and results shows he was looking for a MARKETABLE PRODUCT and stopped when he found it- while saying something different. Once he had Leonard's class to counterfeit and claim was his own, and Stiles' book to counterfeit and claim was his own, the next time he did ANY real search was to grab the hippies to get them to MARKET his counterfeit products. vpw was NOT in it for the benefit of others- if you view his actions. If you only go by his own press releases, however, that's all he ever wanted. Few of us are that gullible now, but you're free to believe what you want.