WordWolf

Ok, let's see....

"...the sound a dog makes."

"Um............who is John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Band, thankyouverymuch, I'll take Animal Sounds for $800 please!"

"No! Good Lord! We would've accepted 'bow-wow' or 'ruff'!"

"Ah, ruff. Just the way your mother likes it!"

"the category was Numbers, and you wrote.. ..a letter V. Well, I tell you what, my friend - V is a Roman numeral, so despite your best efforts, you answered correctly."

"Outer Space: The Last Frontier.

These are the trips of the Star Trek Enterprise. Its five year plan calls for us to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly fly where no man has gone in space. Live long, and be happy."

"We're very busy right now! If you haven't heard, Voldemort has returned and is trying to recruit the Dementors to take over Hogwarts!"

"Hey, Potter, cool it with the nerd stuff. Shut up."

"Listen, we got a place off campus and a mini-fridge filled with butterbeer."

"I'm sorry boys, we can't waste time. We'll celebrate after we defeat Voldemort."

"What a tease."

""Hey! Who's that Spartan doin' some Tai Chi?"

"It's me! It's me!"

""I said who's that Spartan doin' some Tai Chi?"

"It's me! It's me!"

"I deserve good things. I am entitled to my share of happiness. I refuse to beat myself up. I am attractive person. I am fun to be with."

"I'm going to do a terrific show today! And I'm gonna help people! Because I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and, doggonit, people like me!"

"Well, I can tell by the empty bottle of Courvoisier that it is time to say goodnight."

Was it the episode with a matriarchal society? I don't remember much about it other than Riker bedding -- or rather being bedded by -- one of their leaders.

George

It is.

You forgot a lot of the episode.

The enterprise went to "ANGEL ONE" (the planet, in the episode)

to find survivors of the SS Odin.

Meanwhile, an illness swept thru the Enterprise,

and Beverly had to find a cure.

And the Enterprise needed to go to the Neutral Zone as a show of force.

It's your turn anyway.

Do you want to hold off for a time, since our player-numbers have dwindled?

Harry Potter is not a TV show.

That quote was not from any HP movie nor book.

Nor has JK Rowling authorized any TV show appearances

of any of the characters. (To the best of my knowledge.)

All of those quotes, however, ARE quotes from a TV show-

if not from the same EPISODE.

Ok, let's see....

"...the sound a dog makes."

"Um............who is John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Band, thankyouverymuch, I'll take Animal Sounds for $800 please!"

"No! Good Lord! We would've accepted 'bow-wow' or 'ruff'!"

"Ah, ruff. Just the way your mother likes it!"

"the category was Numbers, and you wrote.. ..a letter V. Well, I tell you what, my friend - V is a Roman numeral, so despite your best efforts, you answered correctly."

"Outer Space: The Last Frontier.

These are the trips of the Star Trek Enterprise. Its five year plan calls for us to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly fly where no man has gone in space. Live long, and be happy."

"We're very busy right now! If you haven't heard, Voldemort has returned and is trying to recruit the Dementors to take over Hogwarts!"

"Hey, Potter, cool it with the nerd stuff. Shut up."

"Listen, we got a place off campus and a mini-fridge filled with butterbeer."

"I'm sorry boys, we can't waste time. We'll celebrate after we defeat Voldemort."

"What a tease."

"Where're you boys off to?"

"Skiing, sir. Our instructor has us scheduled for the Swiss Alps, sir."

"Save us some deep powder."

"No problem, sir. The Holodeck has all you'll ever need."

"..Searching the galaxy for survivors seems a petty task for one of their mighty vessels."

"We don't consider even one survivor petty."

"Is this man suggesting that we place a lesser value on life than you do?"

"Not at all."

"Are we to take these strangers at their word?"

"A good question."

"What reason could we possibly have to deceive you?"

"Another good question."

"I can't smell anything. I'm a little congested..."

"Don't let this 'just happen' again, Mister Crusher."

"Yes, sir!!"

"Mister Data will need access to your library."

"Our library is far too sophisticated for a man to comprehend."

"I am an android, Mistress, though anatomically, I am a fully functioning male."

"You're going to have to get the Enterprise to the Neutral Zone before it's too late."

"To be precise, Commander, you ordered me to reach the Neutral Zone 'before it is too late.'

I have computed the length of time the border outpost and USS Berlin can safely withstand a Romulan

attack... deducted our time to destination at maximum warp speed. That leaves Doctor Crusher with

forty-eight more minutes..."

"Splitting hairs is a figure of speech I recognize, Commander. Speaking for those whose hair is soon to be split, forty-eight minutes may make a great deal of difference.

Excuse me -- forty-seven minutes."

"Bingo?

I fail to see the relevance, Doctor. Is that not a reference to an ancient Earth game?"

(And there's one of the famous "47s" which began appearing in scripts after the original

series and the cartoon.)

"I think I may sneeze."

"A Klingon sneeze?"

"Only kind I know."

That's odd-

one of the last quotes I posted was what I thought gave it away,

if you read it slower and ask the obvious questions.

Apparently, I may be wrong.

[WordWolf once again in brackets and boldface.]

Peace

[Peace.]

I ventured to this forum to find out what was going on with The Spirit and Truth Int.

Now I would like to weigh in with my perspective, and pray it will resonate with the Christ within you as you read.

I must say that I am dismayed, though not surprised, with some of the antagonsim being expressed towards the CES/S&TF leadership.

[We're MORE dismayed that there's grounds FOR antagonism, than that there

IS antagonism. But hey, your opinion is your own, and you are well entitled

to it. This being an open board, you are also free to post it.

And I'm free to disagree.]

Perhaps it is good to have an outlet to vent these frustrations and concerns and opinions , but I pray that as we consider these words

that the Lord Jesus Christ will give us understanding

and work within us to be conformed more and more to his image.

[Not a bad sentiment. Might I add praying for the problems that all

the outrage are over be FIXED, maybe?]

My relationship with CES has been very close at times and very distant at times.

When I tell you that I love , respect, and admire John Lynn and Mark Graeser and John Schoenheit and Dan Gallager ; please understand that I am not unaware nor ignorant of times where they may have missed the mark.

I will defer the final determination of all that to the righteous judge, Jesus Christ.

[so will we, but we also think that problems and errors in doctrine and

practice need not wait until Judgement Day to be addressed.

IIRC, CES started out with precisely that intention, with lists of things

in which vpw and twi were in error which they sought to correct.

The errors of OTHERS, apparently, are "free game" to correct,

but the errors of THEMSELVES are sacrosanct.

There's a word for having different rules for yourself than for others.

Proverbs disagreed with it, too.

Proverbs 20:10

"Differing weights and differing measures,

Both of them are abominable to the LORD." (NASB) ]

I recall quite vividly how John Lynn described ( as only John can do )

the challenge of striving to "Do Christiamity Right"

while being "All Covered with Flesh" !!

Yuk!

[Takes a lot of work, it does. Thus the need not to do a PARTIAL job,

especially when making decisions that affect MANY others.

God's people deserve better than this.]

I consider John Lynn an Apostle and Teacher of the Lord Jesus Christ.

I Corinthians 4:9 describes an apostle as being a spectacle to the world and John epitomizes that scripture in my heart. Even his failures have taught me many good lessons.

[That's hardly a definition, "apostle=spectacle to the world",

otherwise Paris Hilton would be a greater apostle than JAL ever was.]

I've heard a lot of people say a lot of bad things about John

but the worst things I have heard straight from John's mouth.

The way he bares his heart is what speaking the truth in Love is all about.

( even if he can be very stubborn and opinionated!!)

I can't imagine the grief John must have felt as he wrote this letter regarding the actions of his dearest and most trusted friends.

[Of course, he can choose which problems to be candid about-

but the ones affecting large numbers of people are the ones we object to,

and THOSE are being DEFENDED and BURIED as much as possible.

And we're attacked for shining a light on them.

Shouldn't he be thankful we're bringing him to light,

if he really exemplifies humility?

There is such a thing-and twi'ers and extwiers are often experts at this-

as the arrogant display putting forth an absence of arrogance,

the Arrogance of Humility,

a display meant to convey humility, so that it is seen of men.]

I have been on and off board the CES ship at various times,

yet I have always been impressed with their integrity and godly love.

They have always been intent on doing what is right in the eyes of God,

and I respect that intention whole heartedly.

[intent is all well and good, but I primarily have to go on the ACTIONS

produced regardless of the intent-or at least as more important than

the intent OF the actions.]

A few years ago my marriage was in a very distressing state.

I think the only thing my wife and I could agree on was that we trusted John Schoenheit's perspective.

John very generously gave us great attention and invested his soul into saving our family.

Yes, there was a dose of what you might call psycho-babble,

but it was all being sifted though the Word of God and our combined godly perspectives.

It was a gut wrenching process.

A lot of those " he said I had my head up my butt and it hurt my feelings" sort of things.

Praise God that we are now more happily married than ever .

I give the Almighty God the glory for this.

I recognize how He was working through Christ in each one of us

to to bring about a healthy resolution.

I am very grateful to John S. especially for the way he ministered to us.

Likewise a number of other saints of S&TF served beautifully

just the way you would want the family of God to work by 'speaking the truth in Love.'

[That's all very nice and wonderful, and I shall not question your testimony,

but rather shall take it as largely the facts of what happened.

That having been said,

niceness and beatification really don't change the errors that are being propounded

and taught, and we're discussing. Are you saying that a beatific intent affects

the things we objected to? I noticed it didn't affect when JAL insulted us...]

I dare say God has wrought much more good in people's lives

though The Sprirt and Truth Fellowship

than any harm that may have come through it.

[i dare say that when you need to reduce lives and the harm done to people's lives

to percentages and one end of a balance-scale in order to justify harm

by saying it's lighter than the good done in OTHER lives,

it's time to pack your bags and find a group that does not consider

people as DISPOSABLE, or numbers in a graph.]

But again I will defer that determination to the Righteous Judge.

[i will not let ALL matters await Judgement Day, but rather will use the

brains that God gave me-and standards mentioned in the Bible,

to consider whether doctrines, actions, or groups need to be changed.

Otherwise, I'll have to answer to the Righteous Judge as to why I turned

a blind eye when I saw wrongs to his brethren.]

I am praying passionately that the present situation will be addressed soundly

and will serve to succour and strengthen this great association of believers

in The Sprit and Truth Fellowship.

I believe the Lord Jesus has worked to bring them to a point of being able to make a huge impact in this troubled world.

I believe the enemy is out to destroy it all.

I believe the Captain of Salvation is at work to right the ship,

'throughly furnishing them unto every good work.'

If all goes well with them, then it will all go well with us

for we are all truely united together in Christ and His Redeeming Love.

[inasmuch that this is true of ALL Christians, I agree.

If you mean "as compared to most Christians", I find this to be inflated.]

...And I am praying for you, dear reader...

I can feel the pain of old wounds as I read some of your posts

and pray the Good Shepherd of your soul

will come alongside you

and minister to your heart

as only he can do.

( which is usually through broken saints)

I was wondering why you are here at the Grease Spot at all.

[Many of us, to expose the wrongs done and BURIED under a veneer

of religiousness. Recent events sound familiar in generalities to us.

Some of us are here for the company or the games.

Some are here for other reasons, like reminisces and other things.]

I believe that it is because you've had times experiencing

the touch of the Master's hand upon your heart

as you listened to the Word of Truth

being expressed by a gifted teacher in Christ,

I believe your heart yearns for more of those encounters with Christ,

in the fellowship of the Saints in Light,

and Christ Jesus surely yearns for more of them with you too.

Maybe that minister was Dr Victor Paul Weirwille, or Craig Martindale,

or John Lynn, or Mark Graeser;

or all of them and many others of the same kind at various times.

and then maybe one of them let you down and caused you pain.

betrayed your trust

it's the sincere ones that can really get you, you know.

They're all covered with flesh ,

just like you and me.

Welcome to the Family of God !!

Through it all you are and will always be

the Apple of The Father's Eye,

and He is already at work to tend to your every need

and has your road to Glory all mapped out.

Believe It

I once told John Lynn ( in the middle of a very agitated disagreement !)

that I would fight for him just like I do for Dr. Weirwille.

and that is what I have endeavored to do just now.

with a heart that is open like a sunflower to the sun

I conclude by saying

God Bless You

I Love You

You Are the Best

(because God made you that way in Christ)

[That was very flowery, touching and beautiful.

Does all the wonderful things still apply to those of us who

prayerfully disagree with JAL, and prayerfully disagree with

HIDING ERRORS THAT HURT PEOPLE?

See, he insulted some of us for that reason,

while still complimenting the wonderful Christians who wonderfully

agree with him.

The rest of us, we weren't so fantastic.

Even the "publicans" do good to those who return the favour...

Which puts him acting at a lower standard than them...]

She is just copying the one that was passed in NY just the beginning of this week. It is now illegal to spank any child under the age of 4!

News to me.

Let's see them try to ENFORCE this one.

They can't stop JAYWALKING.

Ok, let's see....

"...the sound a dog makes."

"Um............who is John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Band, thankyouverymuch, I'll take Animal Sounds for $800 please!"

"No! Good Lord! We would've accepted 'bow-wow' or 'ruff'!"

"Ah, ruff. Just the way your mother likes it!"

"the category was Numbers, and you wrote.. ..a letter V. Well, I tell you what, my friend - V is a Roman numeral, so despite your best efforts, you answered correctly."

"Where're you boys off to?"

"Skiing, sir. Our instructor has us scheduled for the Swiss Alps, sir."

"Save us some deep powder."

"No problem, sir. The Holodeck has all you'll ever need."

"..Searching the galaxy for survivors seems a petty task for one of their mighty vessels."

"We don't consider even one survivor petty."

"Is this man suggesting that we place a lesser value on life than you do?"

"Not at all."

"You're going to have to get the Enterprise to the Neutral Zone before it's too late."

"To be precise, Commander, you ordered me to reach the Neutral Zone 'before it is too late.'

I have computed the length of time the border outpost and USS Berlin can safely withstand a Romulan

attack... deducted our time to destination at maximum warp speed. That leaves Doctor Crusher with

forty-eight more minutes..."

"Splitting hairs is a figure of speech I recognize, Commander. Speaking for those whose hair is soon to be split, forty-eight minutes may make a great deal of difference.

Excuse me -- forty-seven minutes."

"Bingo?

I fail to see the relevance, Doctor. Is that not a reference to an ancient Earth game?"

(And there's one of the famous "47s" which began appearing in scripts after the original

series and the cartoon.)

"I think I may sneeze."

"A Klingon sneeze?"

"Only kind I know."

Hm.

If that's Peter TORK, this is "the Monkees."

The "Klingon sneeze" only appeared once, in the first season, I believe.

I believe you are correct.

Was it "The Neutral Zone," where some cryogenically-suspended humans are found and actually help in a confrontation with the Romulans?

George

No, this is not that episode.

Although I think that's an awfully vague name to give to an episode, don't you?

"You're going to have to get the Enterprise to the Neutral Zone before it's too late."

"To be precise, Commander, you ordered me to reach the Neutral Zone 'before it is too late.'

I have computed the length of time the border outpost and USS Berlin can safely withstand a Romulan

attack... deducted our time to destination at maximum warp speed. That leaves Doctor Crusher with

forty-eight more minutes..."

"Splitting hairs is a figure of speech I recognize, Commander. Speaking for those whose hair is soon to be split, forty-eight minutes may make a great deal of difference.

Excuse me -- forty-seven minutes."

"Bingo?

I fail to see the relevance, Doctor. Is that not a reference to an ancient Earth game?"

(And there's one of the famous "47s" which began appearing in scripts after the original

series and the cartoon.)

"I think I may sneeze."

"A Klingon sneeze?"

"Only kind I know."

"Family Guy"?

I would like to scan docs into pdf file format so I can send by email.

I have heard that you can buy program from adobe to allow this. If anybody has knowledge of this info would be great.

Also how much is the program and is it easy to install.

If you have it does it work well?

I don't know about a program you can BUY from Adobe for that.

I have CutePDF.

It's free.

It's easy to install.

I've only used it maybe twice, but it appears to have worked just fine.

You might ask Raf-I think he's used it more than me.

It's even Vista-ready.

http://www.cutepdf.com/

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No,

Macbeth II: Banquo's Revenge.

Hello all,

I was wondering if any of you people have a copy of the book "One God & One Lord" that CES put out a few years ago that you would be willing to give away? I can't bring myself to give CES $29 of the money that God has put in my care.

If you can help let me know... I AM willing to pay for shipping.

Thanks!

What is the purpose of your post. I find it distasteful and religiously nausiating. If you can't trust CES with "the money God put in your care" then why trust CES with the Word they published in care for Him and His people.

A) Looks like "the purpose of his post" is to get a copy of the book "One God & One Lord

that CES put out, without giving CES $29 directly. I may be wrong, but that seems

pretty straightforward.

B) If you're having nausea, there are a number of rather effective remedies on the market

now besides Dramamine, and your local pharmacy should be able to supply you with

one or more.

C) He doesn't owe you an explanation of why he wants the book or why he

doesn't want to give them money.

And he never said he "trusted CES with the Word."

He said he wanted that book.

He never said WHY he wanted it or how he considers it.

If you don't think that's enough of an answer to help him,

then don't help him.

Curl your lip in disdain, don't waste time posting, and just go on to the next thread.

I find posts like this distasteful and religiously nauseating.

Good thing I already went to my local pharmacy and stocked up on useful supplies.

"Waking the Dead" is a book by John Eldredge about how the renewed heart - in conjunction with a renewed mind -- is critical for living with compassion. "Create in me a pure and contrite heart" as King David said. That kind of stuff.

It's about waking the zombie dead, well-meaning Christians who are bored or disillusioned with church. His website is called Ransomed Heart.

But that did make me laugh about it not being VP. :-)

I don't remember what the original 2 questions were....

Newcomer

This sounds like it might come in handy.

Hello, Newcomer.

You do realize that if you stick around, you'll no longer be new and we'll have to

call you something else?

:)

I still say "follow the money."

The economy of the "slave states" was tied up in plantations-meaning it was based on the

cheap labour of SLAVES.

Freeing slaves means the plantation owner has less money.

I doubt most of them were idealogically-enlightened enough to voluntarily

free their slaves at the cost of making a lot less money.

Of course, any plantation owner COULD free any slave on his plantation-

or all of them. Yet slavery continued as an institution.

Forgive my cynicism, but I think the PRIMARY reason for the Civil War was the

secession of the Confederate States, and the PRIMARY reason for their

secession was their ownership of slaves-which they wished to continue,

and the PRIMARY reason for that was money.

I stress PRIMARY because I believe that people who do not wield the power

and have a vested interest in something can be tricked into supporting it

against their own self-interest, if they are given a compelling sales pitch

that gives them entirely unrelated reasons to support it.

So, you have people who don't own slaves, who are told up and down

"it's about states' rights!", and if they're told this enough times, they will

say "this is all about states' rights", and they will support slavery

almost accidentaly, in their attempt to support states' rights...

which is what the slave-owners wanted, and THEY don't care about the

non-slaveowners so long as they do what they're told.

It’s interesting to note that when I mentioned getting off the couch and doing something for God instead of just complaining about everything people went nuts.

I have obviously struck a cord.

Why did so many people become angry when it was suggested that a lot of you out there are doing nothing for God?

[because you looked at some posts some of us have placed on a website,

decided you knew all about our lives without actually knowing us,

and then began making pronouncements.

That strikes a chord in ex-twiers because we've met plenty of ill-trained,

supposed leaders BEFORE who did this sort of thing.

Nowadays, when someone tells us "pay no attention to that man behind the curtain",

we pull the curtain aside to expose the mortal man standing there pretending he's

a big shot. "Once bitten, twice shy."

We don't encourage people to decide they know all about our lives just based

on a handful of posts and not getting to know us,

then making pronouncements.

That's it.]

Because it is true. If you were doing anything for God it would have never occurred to you to personalize my comments.

You can lie to me easily enough.

You can tell me this is none of my business easily enough.

You can dismiss me easily enough.

But it will not change what is true.

I came to gs to talk to believers, but I didn’t find any.

You decided that you knew everything there was to know on the subject and need

not actually get to know us before deciding you knew all about us.

Then you made a grand pronouncement about all of us from on high.

But you left out the florid language like us being "under the ban" or "apostate"

or something else.

So, your judgements-your preconcieved notions phrased as judgements, really-

will not change what is true either.

If this is your idea of dialoguing, it's not going to encourage the

active Christians here to chat with you as a friend, companion, respected equal,

or what-have-you.

Just to make it official,

you have no idea what I do on my off-time.

I don't come here and announce it, because I don't want to.

That strikes me like sounding a trumpet when I pay alms-I don't want that reward-

and frankly, I'm not in it for the rewards.

Did you really think you could arrive, dictate how we interact with you, and get

grown adults to just fall in line? Didn't you realize we already sat thru this movie?

"Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me."]

okay folks,

I get the idea that Uptown is living under the impression that the spiritual descendents of TWI are the first ones and only ones around that believe in the "ministry of reconciliation".

I grew up in TWI. Praise God my family left in 1989. Then, I left the offshoot in 1995. In 1997, I realized that I had never learned how to share the Gospel. Then, I realized that I wasn't really all that clear on what "the Gospel" was.

Dont misunderstand me. I believed that Jesus died for my sins and that God raised him from the dead. I even went a step further than TWI taught and meant what I said when I called Jesus "Lord". But I couldn't explain that to others and I certainly didn't understand the how to lead someone to Christ.

Realizing my lack of knowledge, I prayed that the Lord would teach me about this.

He did NOT lead me back to TWI or any offshoot thereof.

Instead he led me to a church that is very effective in this area. (I think different churches have been especially gifted by the Holy Spirit in different ways.)

The point of this is that I think Upstart thinks that "the gospel" is the "teachings of VPW and his disciples".

I don't understand that.

It makes me wonder if Upstart even knows the real gospel in the first place. But then I dunno... maybe Upstart could tell us what the Gospel is anyway.

Nice one, especially for a new arrival.

Hello, sonofarthur.

Pull up a chair, and enjoy your stay.

There's a sticky with a guide for new arrivals, I hope you looked it over.

No, not this time.

"You're going to have to get the Enterprise to the Neutral Zone before it's too late."

"Splitting hairs is a figure of speech I recognize, Commander. Speaking for those whose hair is soon to be split, forty-eight minutes may make a great deal of difference.

Excuse me -- forty-seven minutes."

"Bingo?

I fail to see the relevance, Doctor. Is that not a reference to an ancient Earth game?"

(And there's one of the famous "47s" which began appearing in scripts after the original

series and the cartoon.)

=============

Ok, here's where the lines go in the movie/play.

Hamlet, pretending to be insane, is approached by the clueless Polonius,

who was trying to confirm his own guesses as to why.

"What do you read, my lord?"

"Words.

Words.

Words."

"What is the matter?"

"Between who?"

"I mean, the matter that you read"

King Claudius thinks Hamlet has no clue about his plans,

as he sends Hamlet to England.

"I see a cherub that sees them."

Hamlet has the travelling performers enact a play similar to

his father's murder-complete with a few lines Hamlet's added to

complete the resemblance. (He then watches Claudius' reactions

to the play-did Claudius murder Hamlet's father?) This is a line from his play.

"In second husband let me be accursed-

none wed the second but who killed the first!"

Hamlet, on his relation-Claudius is his father's brother, and now

his mother's husband.

A little more than kin, and less than kind."

Polonius, on how wonderful these players are. He spares no inflation in making

them sound great.

"These are the best actors in the world!

Either for tragedy, comedy, history,

pastoral, pastoral-comical, historical-pastoral,

tragical-historical,

tragical-comical-historical-pastoral.

For the law of writ and the liberty...

these are the only men."

"My lord, you played once for the university, you say?"

"That did I, my lord, and was accounted a good actor."

"What did you enact?"

"I did enact Julius Caesar. I was killed in the Capitol. Brutus killed me."

"It was a brute part of him to kill so capital a calf there."

Hamlet then engaged Polonius on his own turn as an actor.

Hamlet's play- he had them enact "the Murder of Gonzago."

(With a few added lines.)

What do you call the play?"

"The Mousetrap."

Hamlet almost narrates the story as it unfolds. He's better than a Greek chorus

for narration, he is...

"His name is Gonzago. Wait, you shall see anon...how the murderer

gets the love of Gonzago's wife."

And that's when Claudius starts to lose his cool...

Thought you guys had more of a head for the classics.

Sir Lawrence Olivier, Mel Gibson, and Kenneth Branagh all did versions of

this, and there was a version shown on MST3K.

For me, there's nothing quite like sitting in front of a roaring fireplace with a

book like "War and Peace." You know a big, fat book like that can feed a fire for 2 hours!

(Emo Phillips.)

Go, Raf!

No, Hamlet. Final answer.

Correct!

I was about to start posting all the most famous lines.

"What do you read, my lord?"

"Words.

Words.

Words."

"What is the matter?"

"Between who?"

"I mean, the matter that you read"

"I see a cherub that sees them."

"In second husband let me be accursed-

none wed the second but who killed the first!"

A little more than kin, and less than kind."

"These are the best actors in the world!

Either for tragedy, comedy, history,

pastoral, pastoral-comical, historical-pastoral,

tragical-historical,

tragical-comical-historical-pastoral.

For the law of writ and the liberty...

these are the only men."

"My lord, you played once for the university, you say?"

"That did I, my lord, and was accounted a good actor."

"What did you enact?"

"I did enact Julius Caesar. I was killed in the Capitol. Brutus killed me."

"It was a brute part of him to kill so capital a calf there."

What do you call the play?"

"The Mousetrap."

"His name is Gonzago. Wait, you shall see anon...how the murderer

gets the love of Gonzago's wife."

I can't quite figure out who said this, it was in quotes but I couldn't find any original post containing it...

"I'm sorry if you (and others) see VPW as someone who used the bible to manipulate and gain power, when he was actually there for God's people - especiailly at times when they needed him the most. Are you still looking for sympathy from others because of this? Well, I'm so sorry to hear just how badly you and others here had gotten short changed and were literally "screwed" out of your own "good bible experience" by VPW."

OK... so... how was he there for God's people when he was raping drugged women?

oh, and I'm really glad he was dead before I had a chance to sit in on the dog porn movie.

That was WTH's reply to Oakspear's post.

WTH didn't make it clear this is what he was doing.

He was attempting to copy my style, but left out a critical detail.

(That is, who is speaking when.)

When you've experienced WTH some more, this won't surprise you.

BTW,

once the CFS class was on tape, vpw didn't always show the dog porn movie.

The taped class DESCRIBES the movie, which is more information than I wanted.

It also shows him amused with the thing as he describes it,

rather than the disgust/distaste most of us would evidence on tape if forced

to describe such a tape.