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Abbott and Costello was always a favorite of mine along with Laurel and Hardy.

But poor Lou Costello was always the fall guy for the jokes as was Stan Laurel.

I'll have you know that Bud Abbott was the more in-demand comedian of the two-

because STRAIGHT MEN are needed to play off of- and were more in demand when

supply was up for jokesters. Lou Costello was the "funny" one, and needed him

for a contrast.

IMHO, Oliver Hardy was the "fall guy" for the jokes- Stan was good-hearted and

anything that happened, happened to Hardy, BECAUSE Stan was so honest.

Thus the expression "This is ANOTHER fine mess you've gotten me into."

Besides, they were actors. You think Lou Costello minded earning his living like that?

Bob Denver didn't mind it-and Lou Costello made a lot more money for his time

than Bob Denver ("Gilligan".)

I'll bet the phrase has a historical root. Buying a farm would normally be a pleasant experience if you're into farming, (and why else would you buy one)-unless the seller was trying to deceive you about the value of the package (like it's built on a toxic landfill or something-hmmm).

I didn't buy the farm, but I bought a lot of produce from it- some of which was good, much of it made me sick.

~Cinder

The phrase "bought the farm" and "became a landowner" were World War I slang for

"he inhabited a cemetary plot".

http://www.snopes.com/language/phrases.farm.asp

In the context of twi,

our tithes and ABS paid for the farms,

so you could say we ALL bought the farm.

We just didn't get a receipt.

As always, I listened to it.

Actually, this is the first year I listened to the original,

AND listened to the updated one from 20 years later,

which is downloadable for free on Arlo's website, http://www.arlo.net

from http://www.arlo.net/massacree/

I think the MP3 version may be down, but the Real downloaded just fine.

(Part 2 is the actual "Alice's Restaurant" redo for the 20th Anniversary.)

There's also a tribute page to Officer Obie. :)

As if nothing worldly could be well done...

As if there are no skilled people out there who just like to do a really good professional job at whatever it is that they do...

When it came to vpw and people with more skill than him,

THERE WERE no skilled people out there who were good and weren't possessed!

There always had to be SOMETHING that invalidated them, and if it had to be made up, so be it...

Here's the breakdowns...

"Know what happens when you give a politician Viagra?"

"No."

"He gets taller."

"Guy come out of an antique shop carrying a big grandfather's clock. Bumped into this drunk, broke the clock.

Guy said, 'Why don't you watch where you're going.' The drunk says, 'Why don't you carry a wristwatch like everybody else.'

First scene we meet Uncle Jesse, who sometimes tells jokes.

Uncle Jesse's played by Willie Nelson.

"Stop that! Why are doin' that?"

"What I'm about to do, I don't want to remember a lot of it."

Luke Duke and Uncle Jesse towards the end- Uncle Jesse takes a huge swig of moonshine before doing something...

"Hey Man, don't hit him! That's AJ Foyt!"

"Really?"

"The Fourth!"

Barfight at the beginning, with some professional racing types in the area.

"Do you know how fast you were going?"

"What?"

"How fast you were going."

"Ten?"

"Eight."

"Isn't the speed limit ten?"

"Yeah. It is."

"Are you police?"

"CAMPUS police."

The clueless campus police at the University of Georgia.

"That road better be closed up tighter than a tick's @$$!"

Boss Hogg about his roadblock, after the race.

"Are you really Japanese?"

"Dammit, we are high-powered Japanese executives. We work hard and we play even harder. Now tell us what you see there or we'll find ourselves another candidate over at Georgia Polytech."

Bo and Luke, posing successfully as 2 Japanese scientists at the University during an open house.

"I don't know about you, but I'd SURE hate to be that safe right now..."

"The Balladeer", when the Dukes realize Boss Hogg's big mystery's answer has to be in his safe...

"Hmm, must be a wet fuse."

"Maybe its backwards."

"Of course its supposed to be backwards-it's a CHINESE fuse."

"No, I mean its backwards from the way it's supposed to be."

"Have you ever been to China? Have you ever been to China?"

" I ate Chinese food once."

"Yea, well you don't blow up Mu Shu Pork my friend."

"I dated a Korean girl in high school."

"That is an entirely different Oriental nation. Get an education!"

"You’re the one who got the fuse wrong!"

"You don't know nothing about Chino-Sino-American relations."

Bo Luke and "Sheev", their friend who "makes bait and blows sh* up, on getting the safe open, using his specialty.

No, not fishing bait...

"They planted a still on our farm."

"They PLANTED a still? Why would they have to PLANT a still?"

"'Cause they're too d* dumb to find our real still."

Daisy, about Hogg and Roscoe planting a still on the farm.

"Man, I'm never gonna get out of this car again! I'm gonna live in it, I'm gonna eat in it, and I'm gonna make sweet love to it!"

"You mean you're gonna make sweet love IN it."

"Oh no, I'm gonna have sex with it."

Bo and Luke. Bo's really attached to the car.

"Whoo, P! If you pop a feather in that hat maybe your man-hoe's would show you a little bit more respect, huzzah!"

"I have $100 here for whoever knocks that loudmouth sumb* out."

Boss Hogg visiting the jail, in his trademarked white suit. (Played by Burt Reynolds.)

One inmate keeps making fun of the suit.

"Don't you know you're not supposed to wear white after Labor Day?"

The inmate he handed over the $100 to, just before Boss Hogg leaves earshot.

There's a GREAT pause by Reynolds before he keeps going on-it looks like it says a lot...

"I make helmets out of em. An armadillo shell is one of the only helmets that will block brain waves. Also make a pretty good soup bowl."

Sheev's a conspiracy theorist. And a weirdo.

"The Dukes of Hazard," I believe.

George

Correct!

Except there's a second "z" in "Hazzard. :)

I think we have low reading rates right now due to the holidays...

"Know what happens when you give a politician Viagra?"

"No."

"He gets taller."

"Guy come out of an antique shop carrying a big grandfather's clock. Bumped into this drunk, broke the clock.

Guy said, 'Why don't you watch where you're going.' The drunk says, 'Why don't you carry a wristwatch like everybody else.'

"Stop that! Why are doin' that?"

"What I'm about to do, I don't want to remember a lot of it."

"Hey Man, don't hit him! That's AJ Foyt!"

"Really?"

"The Fourth!"

"Do you know how fast you were going?"

"What?"

"How fast you were going."

"Ten?"

"Eight."

"Isn't the speed limit ten?"

"Yeah. It is."

"Are you police?"

"CAMPUS police."

"That road better be closed up tighter than a tick's @$$!"

"Are you really Japanese?"

"Dammit, we are high-powered Japanese executives. We work hard and we play even harder. Now tell us what you see there or we'll find ourselves another candidate over at Georgia Polytech."

"I don't know about you, but I'd SURE hate to be that safe right about now..."

"Hmm, must be a wet fuse."

"Maybe its backwards."

"Of course its supposed to be backwards-it's a CHINESE fuse."

"No, I mean its backwards from the way it's supposed to be."

"Have you ever been to China? Have you ever been to China?"

" I ate Chinese food once."

"Yea, well you don't blow up Mu Shu Pork my friend."

"I dated a Korean girl in high school."

"That is an entirely different Oriental nation. Get an education!"

"You’re the one who got the fuse wrong!"

"You don't know nothing about Chino-Sino-American relations."

"They planted a still on our farm."

"They PLANTED a still? Why would they have to PLANT a still?"

"'Cause they're too d* dumb to find our real still."

"Man, I'm never gonna get out of this car again! I'm gonna live in it, I'm gonna eat in it, and I'm gonna make sweet love to it!"

"You mean you're gonna make sweet love IN it."

"Oh no, I'm gonna have sex with it."

"Whoo, P! If you pop a feather in that hat maybe your man-hoe's would show you a little bit more respect, huzzah!"

"I have $100 here for whoever knocks that loudmouth sumb* out."

"Don't you know you're not supposed to wear white after Labor Day?"

"I make helmets out of em. An armadillo shell is one of the only helmets that will block brain waves. Also make a pretty good soup bowl."

NG: Season 4: Suddenly Human

not my favorite episode, but the was a cute kid

Correct!

And I'm surprised it seems so easy to both of you!

Nice to have you answer one, Mrs !, and congratulations on the upcoming punctuation.... :)

Of course, it's your turn to provide a quote from an episode.

"Take me home to my captain. Take me home to Endar!"

"That's not uncommon. It was identified centuries ago as the 'Stockholm syndrome.' "

Twinky, I remember all the forms, reviews, and hoops we had to jump through to get into the corps, but looking back, I'm sure the only ones who got screened out were ones the local leadership didn't get along with or thought couldn't come up with the money!! What they really seemed the most focused on was: Did you take all the classes? (cha-ching) Did you get everything on your 'must have' list? (smoooooch) Did you get your tuition in on time? (cha-cha-cha-ching)

lcm himself stated (in "vp and me") that the sole criterion he was given as to whether or not he

would be able to stay in the corps was, in vpw's own words,

"YOU CAN STAY AS LONG AS YOUR MONEY HOLDS!"

That should tell people something.

Yes, I saw folks leave the corps for reasons other than money, but mostly it was because they wouldn't kiss up to the leadership. I know a few who were positively looney who they helped stay in as long as possible, and several who got the "lack of humility" label stamped on them as they were sent packing, which meant the local leadership would be on strict orders to have their nose all up in that person's business, if you know what I mean.

We put so much unjustified trust in these people to have our best interests at heart. For instance, during my last year in-rez I knew some folks who were involved in grouping folks into their WOW families, and I learned very quickly that "walking by the spirit" meant "wildly guessing". To hear them talk they practically put pictures on the wall and threw darts to match people up!! That was one of many incidents that last few months of training that I closeted away and tried to forget as I was accepting my assignment and moving to someplace completely foreign to me to spend my time doing their bidding...

Someone here once posted that a wow assignment they were aware of WAS determined

at the toss of a coin-and the coin-tosser claimed that's how they normally did it.

There was some question as to whether or not they were kidding about that being

how they NORMALLY did it, but that time it was done by coin-toss.

Part of the problem with the Corps application process was that the program itself was thrown together on the fly by Wierwille. He had no experience in developing training programs and didn't bring anyone on board who did.

I'll go a step farther.

vpw had a conventional education-high school, college, grad school- but no experience even

PARTICIPATING in any kind of training program. With no experience in the development of

one, the running of one, or even the participating IN one, he was totally clueless in what

was needed.

THAT's the man that threw this program together on the fly, and didn't bring anyone on

board who did.

"Know what happens when you give a politician Viagra?"

"No."

"He gets taller."

"Guy come out of an antique shop carrying a big grandfather's clock. Bumped into this drunk, broke the clock.

Guy said, 'Why don't you watch where you're going.' The drunk says, 'Why don't you carry a wristwatch like everybody else.'

"Stop that! Why are doin' that?"

"What I'm about to do, I don't want to remember a lot of it."

"Hey Man, don't hit him! That's AJ Foyt!"

"Really?"

"The Fourth!"

"Do you know how fast you were going?"

"What?"

"How fast you were going."

"Ten?"

"Eight."

"Isn't the speed limit ten?"

"Yeah. It is."

"Are you police?"

"CAMPUS police."

"I want that road blocked tighter than a tick's @$$!"

"Are you really Japanese?"

"Dammit, we are high-powered Japanese executives. We work hard and we play even harder. Now tell us what you see there or we'll find ourselves another candidate over at Georgia Polytech."

"I don't know about you, but I'd SURE hate to be that safe right about now..."

"Hmm, must be a wet fuse."

"Maybe its backwards."

"Of course its supposed to be backwards-it's a CHINESE fuse."

"No, I mean its backwards from the way it's supposed to be."

"Have you ever been to China? Have you ever been to China?"

" I ate Chinese food once."

"Yea, well you don't blow up Mu Shu Pork my friend."

"I dated a Korean girl in high school."

"That is an entirely different Oriental nation. Get an education!"

"You’re the one who got the fuse wrong!"

"You know nothing about Chino-Sino-American relations."

No.

This clue would probably give it away if you remember the episode:

"Yankee Traders. I like the sound of that."

"Well, sir, I doubt they wear red, white, and blue or look anything like Uncle Sam."

"Uncle who?"

"What have bright, primary colors got to do with anything?"

"Fear is the true enemy. The only enemy."

"Know your enemy and know yourself and you will always be victorious."

"What do you make of these?"

"Crystalline. Mostly inert. Nothing to write home about."

"Excuse me?"

"Slang, sir. I did use it correctly, did I not?"

"He has the right to meet death awake."

"Is that a male perspective?"

"Rubbish!"

"It looks like gold. It tastes like gold!"

"It IS gold."

"Merde."

George

Ah!

"Yankee traders." That was from the LOUSY diplomatic skills Picard suddenly DIDN'T have when the Enterprise

first encountered the Ferengi. (Hm. For a skilled diplomat, he didn't know the most basic information about

an advanced race he might encounter, and for a ship's captain, he was a total stranger to the capital ship

called the Ferengi Marauder. Whoops!)

The Ferengi, according to Data, said the Ferengi were like Yankee Traders, and operated on the principal of

"let the buyer beware." (Caveat emptor.)

IIRC, this was the episode that they found "THE LAST OUTPOST" of the Tkon Empire.

And the only appearance of the Ferengi energy whips- after which, the Ferengi switched to more practical

disruptors like the Klingons and Romulans. (Funny how the Cardassians used phasers like the Federation...)

No....

When I get time, I'll try the website WW suggested. Is it interactive? I.e., do I have to sit at the computer the whole time?

George

You should check every few minutes, since there will be some requests for instructions.

You'll temporarily download the widget for the antivirus, select a few options, then finish a download or something,

then you'll run the program.

Once it finds something, it will give you options of what to do with it,

and if you want it to do that with anything else it finds.

THEN you can leave it alone until it's done.

Depending on the speed of your connection (the first 1/2), and the speed of your pc and how much stuff

is in there (the 2nd 1/2), this can take up to about 2 hours, or a lot less, depending.

Larry,

do you have a little program-widget that keeps reposting the same cut-and-paste every day or so?

John Lynn's response:

Actually, this is not "John Lynn's response",

since for this to be "John Lynn's response",

it would have to be IN RESPONSE to Don's post in some way,

which means it would have to have taken place AFTER Don's post.

(Unless he claims personal prophecy showed him Don's post and he posted

the "response" before the original post, but I've yet to see him claim this.

I don't know if he is, but if he is, I haven't seen it.)

I guess that this fits in this thread.

For the last couple of days, Norton has blocked several attempts by a "QaZ" Trojan Horse to access my computer. Any ideas where it's coming from? As well as Norton, I've run SpyBot and AdAware to clean out stuff.

George

I'll give it a shot, to the limits of my limited knowledge.

I'm presuming that you mean that your firewall's reporting that a program ON your computer,

called QaZ, is trying to "dial out",

and not that your firewall is reporting that a program hosted elsewhere, called QaZ,

is trying to "dial in" to your computer.

Speak up if it's the latter.

As to nasty viruses, if your antivirus (for example, Norton) is not up to cleaning it out,

time to use something stronger. :)

Go to http://housecall.trendmicro.com/

and spend 2 hours (or less) using the online antivirus to clean out your pc.

Let me know if that doesn't do it- if not, you may need to do something

with your pc's registry and so on. But let's try the painless methods first...

(Oh, and I never heard "Norton's a great antivirus", but I'd make sure my antivirus

was completely up to date...)

I would have thought time existed within God, not God being outside of it.

"'Where is God?

God is everywhere.

Why?

Because He likes you.'

A mix of the Vatican and Disney.' "-

"Father Guido Sarducci", comedian.

As I see it (and we've discussed this before),

all of reality (space-but now we're discussing TIME)

is finite, God is not. So, my personal opinion is that reality (space AND time)

exist WITHIN God, as a subset, but not literally as "a part of God",

within just as a penny dropped into a bathtub is IN the water, but not water itself.

I'm not going to get into the Flatland model again. :)

There are indeed a lot of these questions. The only way I can see there being a semblence of a reasonable answer is to stop making God an identity, an individual, an "intelligent being." Thinking of God as literally being light and literally being love is a way to start looking from that perspective. Lose the personage, lose the big daddy, lose the way you have thought of God. Perhaps break the clay pot as Todd said.

The problem with that (well it isn't really a problem, maybe the challenging part of that) is that you lose many of the qualities the God you may think you have come to know and love may have had. The one you are comfortable with. The one that you have to have blind faith in, and these types of questions in order for Him to exist at all for you. Then the language gets a bit slippery and perhaps becomes pointless or meaningless or just plain wrong. Is the word God really usefull in this sense anymore? Maybe, maybe not.

I could swear I've heard the one about paperwork and the date, but this is no

television show I'm familiar with- the other quotes all seem foreign to me.

Maybe I've heard that line on a commercial.

Is this the ST:TNG episode where they discover these crystals and find out they're

this lifeform that needs light to survive or something?

"Know what happens when you give a politician Viagra?"

"No."

"He gets taller."

"Guy come out of an antique shop carrying a big grandfather's clock. Bumped into this drunk, broke the clock.

Guy said, 'Why don't you watch where you're going.' The drunk says, 'Why don't you carry a wristwatch like everybody else.'

"Stop that! Why are doin' that?"

"What I'm about to do, I don't want to remember a lot of it."

"Hey Man, don't hit him! That's AJ Foyt!"

"Really?"

"The Fourth!"

I did not know he got his degree from Princeton

Is that true?

As it is written, it is TECHNICALLY true, but written DECEPTIVELY, so that the

most casual reader will draw an INCORRECT conclusion.

vpw did not study at Princeton University.

vpw got his Masters at Princeton Theological Seminary.

They are both located at Princeton, NJ, and are not connected with each other

in any significant way-other than location and name.

That having been said, Princeton Theological Seminary is a respectable

school of learning, and is worth placing on a list of accomplishments.

It's no "Pikes Peak", certainly. I forget which GSC'er has also attended it,

but you can find it with a search.

The way it's written, one might think vpw studied at Princeton Theological Seminary,

then went on to earn a Masters at Princeton University.

lcm used to make a point of making it sound like vpw studied at Princeton University,

by calling PTS "Princeton".

When I get some time, I'm going to have some fun and address the page's claims.

I've probably heard that joke a number of times, but what movie...?

"Lord of War" again?

George

No.

AFAIK, we have not done THIS movie yet.

"Know what happens when you give a politician Viagra?"

"No."

"He gets taller."

"Guy come out of an antique shop carrying a big grandfather's clock. Bumped into this drunk, broke the clock.

Guy said, 'Why don't you watch where you're going.' The drunk says, 'Why don't you carry a wristwatch like everybody else.'

There I was.....

Sitting in the BRC (in 1980?) during one of those corps-sharing times......only THIS time, vpw had five or six corps up front who had returned from The Tracker School. After plenty of preliminary stuff.....ie the inrez corps guy led off with his spiel for about 10 minutes, letting wierwille sit back until the meeting got going.....then wierwille starts. He talks about the importance of learning, learning from anyone who is an expert in their field and all that. Thus, he felt it was important for these corps to attend The Tracker School.

Well......all was fine as the corps shared some of the neat things they had learned.....UNTIL one LEAD-type corps guy shared how this Tracker Guy was amazing!! In fact, his perception and awareness of his surroundings, and life itself, was truly jaw-dropping. This Tracker Guy was unbelievable.....etc. SUDDENLY.....wierwille lashes into this corps guy with a vicious venom that I'd never seen before. Wierwille was livid.......and all of us in the BRC were stunned by his outlandish outbursts!!!

As this venom escalated, wierwille glared at this corps guy and said that he was POZZEZZED......yep, he has spirits in his braincells. The corps guy stood his ground. It seemed like everyone in the BRC had stopped breathing. You could cut the tension in the room with a knife. In public view, wierwille was on the spot.....and this corps guy didn't seem to flinch. What was wierwille to do???? Yell some more......visibly fume.....and stomp out.

You tell me what you think about wierwille.....and I'll tell you ANOTHER side of the man.

At a similiar type of sharing at Emporia, one gal was sharing on "the Tracker guy" and how sharp he was. She said something to the effect that he knew how to sneak up on someone. Vp was at lunch that day and all of a sudden we heard him come over a separate mike,

"He could never sneak up on me. Father would tell me." The woman just shut up and looked embarassed. The reason for her sharing had just been taken away from her.

Not the same kind of face-melting, but still quite embarassing.

It didn't matter what he was promoting because ultimately vp was always promoting himself.

The tracker was a great guy-until vpw had to share the spotlight with him, then there was trouble....

Everybody's in a hurry.

Ok, next one...

"Know what happens when you give a politician Viagra?"

"No."

"He gets taller."