WordWolf

""The magnetic plasma guides are heating up."

"They must've initiated the impulse prestart sequence."

"What does that mean?"

"It means this entire conduit is about to be filled with superheated plasma."

"When you say superheated..."

"Unless I can find another way out of here, we'll be vaporized. Is that clear enough?"

"Crystal."

The usual "mail-client" for Firefox users is "Thunderbird."

You might try that as well-I believe it's a stand-alone program, independent of Firefox.

Do you want us to start listing out favourite "Add-Ons" yet?

One of Firefox's strengths is its customization level.

It's easy to add a bunch of widgets that all all sorts of abilities....

May I recommend something?

Both of you are normally a lot better than this recent exchange.

May I suggest a little time away from the keyboard, maybe a brisk walk, and indulging in another

activity before giving this a fresh look?

It's done wonders for me when I get frustrated..

Was it "SCORPION"?

We could use another quote, a clue, or whether or not that was the correct answer....

Actually,

wasway gave the correct song, and the correct name of an artist that performed it on a broadcast

(or whose performance was later broadcast.)

I'm not sure about Waysider's special provisos for that round, but it looked like WS agreed

the answer was correct, eventually. (Maybe not.)

I'd wait for Waysider to clarify.

If Waysider wasn't being so specific, it would OBVIOUSLY be wasway's turn.

Of course, if it IS wasway's turn, wasway can just cede his/her turn to you, and we move on.

Just trying to stick to the few rules we have....

I don't blame them for not talking in this forum. There is too much hateful spew going around, and a lot

of generally over the top commentary.

Heaven forbid someone should point out what the board is trying to hide,

or that they should ask the hard questions...

We're supposed to follow leaders off a cliff, not question their abilities to lead...

If people would tone down the gossippy chatter, think before writing, and work toward some real resolution

and peace, and we might get some where. Blessed are the peacemakers, right ?

Hm. The newspapers and news reports must be full of "gossipy chatter".

Lots of us think before we hit the "reply" key.

I daresay most of those posting news (or "gossipy chatter") want to work toward some real resolution-

which is why they're refusing to bury the problems caused by ces/stfi leaders, policies and doctrines.

I'm confident that most, if not all, of these "statistics" were entirely made-up.

"90% believe in divine retribution?"

That's more than double the polled number of those who believe in HEAVEN!

Only 57% have had deja vu?

I challenge that....

Oh yea ....If a Brit tells you to "Knock me up in the morning," He or she isn't asking for sex, he or she wants a wake up call.

And if they ask to "borrow a rubber",

they're not asking for a wake-up call,

they're looking for an eraser.

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This probably will be of no use to you, but might at least be interesting....

http://www.hp-lexicon.org/help/strictly_british1.html

It's a lexicon of specifically British usages in the Harry Potter series.

Mad Dog: "How'd you get a name like 'Thelma'?"

Thelma: "When I was born, my momma took one look at me and called me Thelma.

Just like your momma took one look at you and called you Mad Dog."

Good Times

Correct!

I was saving that quote, and

"Michael's going to be a lawyer of tomorrow!"

"Oh? Well, welcome to the slammer of today!"

Too easy, I take it....

Ok, let's see, next television show....

"We'd better hustle our butts!"

Some episode involving a social worker. That phrase came up several times.

Eventually, JJ got the social worker to say it.

"If I do have hypertension, y'all gave it to me wit' all that nickin' and naggin' goin' on.

Junior here's the only one who haven't got on my nerves.

"That's because, one, I respect you, and two, I fear for my life."

" I must give thanks to the good Lord above for giving us such a beautiful Christmas gift: a loving family and warm friends."

Florida had her priorities straight.

"Damn, Damn, DAMN!"

Possibly the best-known quote. When James passed away, Florida had it completely together,

until all their guests left. Then she allowed herself to actually respond.

Very powerful moment.

"Water? She aint drinkin' nothin' but the best from now on... Kool-Aid!"

JJ was a big Kool-Aid fan.

Go, Raf!

"Fear is sand in the machinery of life" seems to be such a convenient catch-phrase.

Fear is not exactly a pleasant experience. Generally, I think it is an effect, not a cause. There may be a statistical correlation between fear and disastrous results in life, but correlation does not necessarily prove causation.

"Never mistake a slogan for a doctrine." -WordWolf.

twi had/has plenty of cutesy sayings that have been inflated FAR out of all reasonable proportion...

EP,

if you're tensing up, relax those muscles. :)

I think all of us who've been here awhile have posted at least a few things they might have regretted later,

whether for the content, or for the phraseology, the wording.

If you stumbled like the rest of us, you'll manage like the rest of us.

You should see what qualifies as "acceptable" in some of the REALLY contentious threads.

:)

Ok, let's see, next television show....

"We'd better hustle our butts!"

"If I do have hypertension, y'all gave it to me wit' all that nickin' and naggin' goin' on.

Junior here's the only one who haven't got on my nerves.

"That's because, one, I respect you, and two, I fear for my life."

" I must give thanks to the good Lord above for giving us such a beautiful Christmas gift: a loving family and warm friends."

"Damn, Damn, DAMN!"

"Water? She aint drinkin' nothin' but the best from now on... Kool-Aid!"

Jesus is not your Lord?

Thanks for letting me know.

Then you can play by your own rules if you like.

He has everything to do with my life.

I do my best to play by his rules.

The GSC is a general discussion board, primarily for twi and twi survivors.

Some of those survivors are currently Christian, some are not.

All are welcome to participate in the discussions.

Politeness is requested and appreciated, and sometimes is even received! :)

There's no doctrinal requirement for participation.

Even CURRENT twi members are welcome to read and post here- so long as

they follow the few rules and common courtesy expected on the average

messageboard.

Periodically, someone DOES get surprised that there are non-Christians here.

However, many of them are courteous posters, and many posters who are

NOT polite are Christians. There's no categorical requirement either way,

it appears.

I've found this is less of a shock for me, since I communicate with all sorts

of people online, and there's no correlation between doctrine and manners.

In fact, the most vicious attacks I've gotten online were from fellow Christians,

for whom Christ died. Likewise, many of the most special communications I've

received are from fellow Christians. We're not to withdraw ourselves entirely

from the world-and it seems logical to me that this applies online as well as

offline.

It is said that travel broadens the mind, and I have found that it is so IMO.

I will add that travelling ONLINE will likewise broaden the mind, if not so

much and in so many ways as doing so OFFLINE.

"Sixteen Tons" by Tennessee Ernie Ford?

George

CORRECT!

At least, that is the song, and one of the artists who did the song.

I compared 3 versions of the lyrics when posting the quote.

Those of you who ever saw the beginning of "Joe Versus the Volcano"

heard this song make it into this section.

Go, George!

"If you see me coming, better step aside-

A lot of men didn't and a lot of men died.

One fist of iron and the other of steel

If the right one don't get you, then the left one will."

"Reba"????

"In Your Wildest Dreams,",

the Moody Blues.

(Off "Sur la Mer".)

looking back, there really wasn't anything I liked. I thought I was doing God's will by being there, but I didn't hear, see, or experience anything that would make me want to go back... except that I was miraculously healed there once, but I think that had more to do with the simple fact that being there caused me so much physical pain that I went to God for an answer. it had nothing to do with the roa itself.

I started going in 1990. as long as I went, my experience pretty much sucked. human contact was filtered and controlled by my ex, so I didn't make any real friends there, and I had no friends to reunite with by the time the roa tradition ended. its demise was a relief to me.

potato,

I consider the last "real" ROA to be 1988, since the 1989 one was so heavily-monitored,

and 80% of the people- including most of the ones that made it worthwhile-

were gone.

Of the ones that attended the 89 ROA, many of them attended it as their LAST ROA,

as they came off the WOW field, hit the bookstore one last time, said their goodbyes,

and so on.

So, from 1990 on, you had brand-new people, establishment goons, good-hearted

Kool-Aid Drinkers, and the stars on the mainstage.

The new people and Kool-Aid Drinkers together weren't enough to float it as a

worthwhile event any longer- especially with numbers down as much as they

collapsed after lcm's "line in the sand."

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And from what I've heard, 86-88 weren't as good as the ones that came before....

Maybe the "bs", as you put it in large font, comes out of the drive-by posting style of some of those affiliated with the group formerly known as CES. I've only cared enough to contact anyone in that organization personally less than a handful of times, and received a response each time, although not one that I thought made much sense; still, a response was given. But if an individual or a group doesn't want to engage in discussion on an open forum, don't publically post some monologue then refuse to discuss it publically.

Bingo.

And don't insult my intelligence by thinking I can't see that one.

Thank you, Sushi! Now do you remember the skit on Special Dispensation?

I would have been doing time in H*ll for a cheesburger.....

"...One thing that bothered me, I guess in hindsight, was that the Church kept changing

rules on me.

This Law is Eternal-except for this weekend!

SPECIAL DISPENSATION!

Like, eating meat on Fridays was a mortal sin-

except for the people of Philadelphia-they were number one in our scrap iron drive!

They'd give it out as a prize.

If you donated the most money to the Bishop's Relief Fund- hamburgers on Friday!

I've been out for a while.

It's not even a sin any more to eat meat on Friday........

But I bet there's still guys in Hell doing time on a meat rap!!!!

'I thought it was retro-active!

I had a boloney sandwich.

This guy had a beef jerky.'

How'd you like to do Eternity for a beef jerky?"

Then he wondered about short-time clubs.

(For those interested, I believe Sushi, because mine was also done from memory.)

(Oh, Sush, the pictures they sometimes showed of Heaven- you'd sometimes find

them in 'Treasure Chest', the comic with Chuck White.

Whoever that was and whatever that was.)

Well, since you asked.....

[WordWolf in brackets and boldface as usual.]

I respectfully disagree.

[You have a right to do so.]

Who made the rule that CES leadership should post their opinions here

and engage in the dialogue?

[With respect, brother, you're asking the wrong question.

Here's a little background.

Some people came out of twi, where open discussion was forbidden.

Some of them-who formed ces/stfi- began with open discussions,

and a public messageboard online.

Then they shut down the public messageboard online.

No more open discussion.

The question is "Why has open, public discussion become forbidden

in ces/stfi like it was/is in twi?"

They are free to run their OWN board and moderate their OWN discussions

like they did BEFORE. The reason the discussions ended up HERE is the same

reason twi discussions ended up here- by DEFAULT. They refused to do so,

and there remained a perceived need for open discussion.

(You may not perceive a need for open discussion. I perceive one,

and consider it a necessary part of healthy organizations-

if any organization can be considered 'healthy'.)

So, no one said there is a RULE that ces/stfi need have open discussions

ANYWHERE. However, their refusal to do so raises some interesting questions.

This is no guarantee of wrongdoing or malfeasance, but these are things

that make some people go "Hmmmm...."

There is neither a rule that they must dialogue HERE even if nowhere else.

However, they seem to have no difficulty playing with, and finessing the

concept. JAL made a press release for posting here, wrote in it

"this is not for posting online", insulted the people who post here,

and had the nerve to pretend to be surprised that it ended up here.

You may consider it "plausible deniability", but I call it "thinly-veiled hypocrisy."

If the "thin veil" fooled you and convinced you he really didn't write it

EXPECTING IT to end up here, that's on you. I suspect you possess more wit

than that. At the same time, the notice IN the internet press release that he

wasn't going to communicate by internet is hypocrisy- going out by internet

as intended. He communicates by internet in the fashion that suits him-

by press release- and NOT in the manner that would encourage open communication-

by messageboard dialogue. At the same time, he says he's not communicating

by internet in any form. Those are 2 things people complain about.]

I don't believe that's comiing from our Lord Jesus.

[i don't need revelation or a precise Bible verse to know when someone's

blowing smoke up my sit-upon.

Jesus warned against those who liked the chief seats.

Paul warned against those who set themselves up as lords over God's heritage.

Further,

I'd go out on a limb and say that-if Jesus was walking around here now, he'd be

using the internet as well. He dialogued with people openly all the time.

On the other hand,

squelching discussion, sitting on news,

I for one don't believe THAT comes from our Lord Jesus, either. ]

I will even say that Christian Educational Services

freed me from the yoke of having to live up to other people's expectations,

and all those man-made rules and reg's.

[That's wonderful.

And I learned some good stuff in twi.

Which did nothing to excuse them from ruining the lives of others.

So, how many "success stories" does it take to excuse the lives

ruined because some people were railroaded into Momentus,

or someone leaned on them with "personal prophecy", public ridicule

USING "personal prophecy", or both?

Please note that I consider this a trick question.

I don't consider ANY number of personal anecdotes of "success stories"

to excuse those who call themselves leaders from ruining lives of

ANY of the people they ACCEPTED RESPONSIBILITY FOR.

However, if you think differently, feel free to tell me how many lives

can be exchanged for how many lives.]

So if it bothers you that JL or MG or JS aren't here every day like some of us

just let it go.

[That's misrepresentative of our positions. Few, if any, expect any of them to

be here regularly. I certainly don't.]

Its very liberating.

[Most of us who are counselling caution are quite liberated, thank you for the

concern. We don't lose sleep or get hypertension over where any of them

post or don't post, for that matter.]

and if you really want their point of view

just call or write them.

[Which is a LOT better than a vacuum of communication.

However, it falls FAR short of OPEN COMMUNICATION-

which was one of our main complaints from the beginning.

And at least one person tried that-using their legal name-and got no response.

Which means there's no guarantee that will work.]

Peace

[i'm all for peace. I can get behind that.

I'm not that keen about "let's pretend there's no problems and we'll pretend that's

peace". If that's something you mean, then I can't get behind it.]

I am not going to fall for this one.

"I have the impression that we woke you about three-thirty this morning."

"No, it was ten of four."

"Did we say why?"

"Uh, you said you wanted to sacrifice a virgin."

"Did we?"

"I was too sleepy."

Beginning of one episode, the morning after Hawkeye and Trapper threw a BIG party.

Radar showed up with the mail, and Hawkeye had a vague recollection.

"Oh you...you..."

"Who you calling a 'you-you'?"

Frank Burns and Hawkeye, during "Yankee Doodle Doctor".

" 'To the Far East Export Import Company, 27 Zapata Circle, Ti-joo-wana, Mexico.' "

"Right, go on."

" 'Mary had a little lamb. Stop. My dog has fleas. Stop.' "

"Good, there's a bit more. 'Mairzy doats and dozey doats, and I'll be home for Christmas.' Got that?"

"Uh..in just a moment. Uh, okay."

"Sign it: 'Your loving son, Queen Victoria.' "

Radar taking down a message for Colonel Flagg.

He has "nothing to do with Intelligence." He's with the C.I.D.

The REALLY memorable part was when Radar showed it to Hawkeye and Pratt,

the OTHER spy.

Radar:"You told me to keep you up on what he's doing."

Hawkeye: "'Mary had a little lamb...'"

Pratt: "He knows I'm here."

Trapper: "How?"

Pratt: "I'm Mary."

Hawkeye: "I hate to tell you this, Mary, but your dog has fleas."

Your turn, George.