WordWolf

Yeah, I'll say that's close enough. ====================== Lynryd Skynryd's "Gimme Three Steps". " I was cutting the rug Down at a place called The Jug With a girl named Linda Lu. When in walked a man With a gun in his hand And he was looking for you know who. He said, "Hey there fellow, With the hair colored yellow, Watcha tryin' to prove? 'Cause that's my woman there And I'm a man who cares And this might be all for you." I was scared and fearing for my life. I was shakin' like a leaf on a tree. 'Cause he was lean, mean, Big and bad, Lord, Pointin' that gun at me. I said, "Wait a minute, mister, I didn't even kiss her. Don't want no trouble with you. And I know you don't owe me But I wish you'd let me Ask one favor from you." (Chorus) "Won't you give me three steps, Gimme three steps mister, Gimme three steps towards the door? Gimme three steps Gimme three steps mister, And you'll never see me no more." Well the crowd cleared away And I began to pray As the water fell on the floor. And I'm telling you son, Well, it ain't no fun Staring straight down a forty-four. Well he turned and screamed at Linda Lu And that's the break I was looking for. And you could hear me screaming a mile away As I was headed out towards the door. "Won't you give me three steps, Gimme three steps mister, Gimme three steps towards the door? Gimme three steps Gimme three steps mister, And you'll never see me no more." " ============= Too recognizable, I think the others were saying. (Hard to strike a balance there...) Go, Sunnyfla!

New song.... "He was lean, mean, big and bad, Lord, & pointin' that gun at me."

(In case I was unclear, I meant that anyone could post in such a thread once it was started, of course.... One THREAD per person, but not one POST per person...)

Hello. twi currently continues its policy of collecting and collating all the dirty secrets, the weaknesses, the shortcomings, the stumbles, and anything that can be re-interpreted to RESEMBLE them, and stores them on 3 x 5 cards. When they want to put the squeeze on someone, these cards come out and they read them to the person as leverage. When someone leaves twi, those who stayed hear them as twi conducts its usual smear campaign. So, to hear a reading of the 3 x 5 cards is to receive a curse at the hands of twi members. They mean it for evil, but it gives me an idea for good. I read here that once, at least one fellowship back in the wacky 70s would pass around 3 x 5 cards with someone's name, and each person who had it in their hand would write something about the person that blessed them, then passed it on. When the group was done, each person received their card-which listed the blessings. Thus, the idea. I'd like to start a series of threads where anyone who wants to can start such a thread. The rules I propose are simple: 1) anyone can start such a thread. 2) Please keep ONE thread per person. 3) Please label them clearly, with the title as the poster's s/n and "5 x 3" card. (I chose the name since it's "the reverse" of twi's 3 x 5 cards. :) ) 4) No one is forced to EVER post on one. 5) The ONLY things that should EVER go on such a thread are blessings. NO insults. NO sly little digs. NO insinuations. NOTHING that any person would not feel the person they care about most would not mind hearing. Save the venom and sarcasm for other threads-there's plenty to choose from. 6) Please stick to blessings, and keep dialogues/ normal discussions off the thread. Consider this like a big card the person would be handed. Try to keep posts below one typed page if at all possible. One sentence is perfectly acceptable if you are clear and concise. (And speaking from the heart is not something that follows too many rules, anyway.) I think those are reasonable rules to follow, and will only help these fill a useful purpose. With that in mind, I'm starting one for someone I think we all can agree upon. The wonderful blessing in our lives known as Pawtucket..... Paw has provided a place for us to speak the truth and hear the truth. Paw allows us the freedom to heal at our own pace and in our own words, even when it means we squabble, yell, throw things and smack each other. (Within a few distant limits.) This places a greater burden on Paw, since he must occasionally pull apart kids who want "a good fistfight", and let things sort themselves out or eventually step in once there's a loud brawl going on. This is generally a thankless job, and Paw keeps on with it without uttering a peep of complaint, and shoulders the great FINANCIAL burden of the bandwidth and so on without being pushy and asking for a reasonable set of donations, let alone a stipend for the "work" he does maintaining things here. So, this one goes out to Paw. Paw, I thank my God on every remembrance of you.

I read this modern-day parable some time ago, and-although some might think it is completely unrelated to this thread, I think it illustrates the point in a different fashion. I'll mark the relevant line/lines. ==================== A wealthy man and his son loved to collect rare works of art. They had everything in their collection, from Picasso to Raphael. They would often sit together and admire the great works of art. When Desert Storm broke out, the son went to war with his Reserve unit. He was very courageous and died in battle while rescuing another soldier. The father was notified and grieved deeply for his only son. About a month later, just before Christmas, there was a knock at the door. A young man stood at the door with a large package in his hands. He said, "Sir, you don't know me, but I am the soldier for whom your son gave his life. He saved many lives that day, and he was carrying me to safety when a bullet struck him in the heart and he died instantly. He often talked about you, and your love for art. The young man held out his package. "I know this isn't much. I'm not really a great artist, but I think your son would have wanted you to have this." The father opened the package. It was a portrait of his son, painted by the young man. He stared in awe at the way the soldier had captured the personality of his son in the painting. The father was so drawn to the eyes that his own eyes welled up with tears. He thanked the young man and offered to pay him for the picture. "Oh, no sir. I could never repay what your son did for me. It's a gift." The father hung the portrait over his mantle. Every time visitors came to his home he took them to see the portrait of his son before he showed them any of the other great works he had collected. The man died a few years later. There was to be a great auction of his paintings. Many influential people gathered, excited over seeing the great paintings and having an opportunity to purchase one for their collection. On the platform sat the painting of the son. The auctioneer pounded his gavel. "We will start the bidding with this picture of the son. Who will bid for this picture?" There was silence. Then a voice in the back of the room shouted, "We want to see the famous paintings! Skip this one!" But the auctioneer persisted. "Will someone bid for this painting? Who will start the bidding? $100, $200?" Another voice shouted angrily, "We didn't come to see this painting! We came to see the Van Gogh's, the Rembrandt's! Get on with the real bids!" But still the auctioneer continued. "The son! The son! Who'll take the son?" Finally, a voice came from the very back of the room. It was the longtime gardener of the man and his son. "I'll give $50 for the painting." Being a poor gardener, it was all he could afford. "We have $50, who will bid $60?" "Give it to him for $50! Let's see the masters!" "$50 is the bid, won't someone bid $60?" The crowd was becoming angry. They didn't want the picture of the son. They wanted the more worthy investments for their collections. The auctioneer pounded the gavel. "Going once, twice, SOLD for $50!" A man sitting in the second row shouted, "Now, let's get on with the collection!" The auctioneer laid down his gavel. "I'm sorry, the auction is over." "What about the paintings?" "I am sorry. When I was called to conduct this auction, I was told of a secret stipulation in the will. I was not allowed to reveal that stipulation until this time. Only the painting of the son would be auctioned. Whoever bought that painting would inherit the entire estate, including the paintings. The man who took the son gets every thing!" God gave His son 2,000 years ago to die on a cruel cross. Much like the auctioneer, His message today is, "The son, the son, who'll take the son?" Because, you see, whoever takes the Son gets everything.

You got me thinking of a Christian hymn that we sang PART OF, and never sang the last verse. It contradicted Session I of pfal and "Christians Should Be Prosperous", you see.... ========== I Know Who Holds Tomorrow (Words and music: Ira F. Stanphill © 1950) "I don't know about tomorrow; I just live from day to day. I don't borrow from its sunshine, For its skies may turn to grey. I don't worry o'er the future, For I know what Jesus said. And today I'll walk beside Him, For He knows what is ahead. Many things about tomorrow I don't seem to understand But I know who holds tomorrow And I know who holds my hand. Every step is getting brighter As the golden stairs I climb; Every burden's getting lighter, Every cloud is silver-lined. There the sun is always shining, There no tear will dim the eye; At the ending of the rainbow Where the mountains touch the sky. Many things about tomorrow I don't seem to understand But I know who holds tomorrow And I know who holds my hand. I don't know about tomorrow; It may bring me poverty. But the one who feeds the sparrow, Is the one who stands by me. And the path that is my portion May be through the flame or flood; But His presence goes before me And I'm covered with His blood. Many things about tomorrow I don't seem to understand But I know who holds tomorrow And I know who holds my hand."

Those of you who are still in, you are STILL being monitored by the twi Thought Police....

Well, I think this is really 2 questions. A) Can a spirit (angel or God) feel emotions? B) Does God feel emotions? As to the first, I'd say it's clear a spirit CAN feel emotions. That's why satan rebelled in the first place-he felt the sin of PRIDE. Ezekiel 28:16-17. (NKJV) "By the abundance of your trading You became filled with violence within, And you sinned; Therefore I cast you as a profane thing Out of the mountain of God; And I destroyed you, O covering cherub, From the midst of the fiery stones. 17 “ Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; You corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor; I cast you to the ground, I laid you before kings, That they might gaze at you." That means that spirits can either feel all sorts of emotions, or only pride (or only negative emotions like pride.) I reject the second possibility as ridiculous, pending a specific case for it. I'd say angels of every type can feel all sorts of emotions. ======= B) I'd say God feels DIFFERENTLY than we do, but He feels emotions nevertheless. I have great difficulty imagining a God that would go through lengthy plans for the salvation of so many even to this day, who feels no emotions about them whatsoever. Ephesians 2:4-5 (NKJV) "But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved)," I John 4:7-11. "7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. 8 He who does not love does not know God, for God is love. 9 In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him. 10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins. 11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another." I John 4:16. "16 And we have known and believed the love that God has for us. God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him." Seems pretty clear to me. And if someone has some intellectual or linguistic contortion that robs those verses of their plain meanings, that's their business. Me, I think this is remarkably simple- unless you've been taught wrong in the past and are trying to overcome wrong teaching, practical error and doctrinal error. Then it can be VERY difficult. That's how I see it, anyway.

Someone told me that one story going around is that craig was innocent- despite his admissions in direct testimony of wrongdoing in court. I imagine they're saying craig's innocent, and so's Rosa-lie....

That's the "SULTANS OF SWING", by Dire Straits. Not many posters here are familiar with them, I think.

By typing and hitting the "post" button. Bramble seems to have figured it out without difficulty. Pretty much everything I posted came from one thread or another from the GSC, and can be found here. And was said by other people, not me. And a large part of my initial post was questions. And the "undocumented" part was "the way tree", which I thought was common knowledge. Where did I get contentious, and where did my attitude come in? (Before this question, I mean.)

This is a thread about ordination...

He can and He did. In this case, He Himself chose as the instrument of His preservation, "those evil catholics." Common people not reading it is NOT how I would have handled it if asked. Why God Almighty elected to preserve it in this fashion-they're the ones that Martin Luther's texts ultimately came from- is not known to me. However, I would not seek to lecture Him on ways and means. Perhaps you should address Him directly on this one.

3) Believers with famous names/name recognition like football players, judges, etc. They were given awards they never earned (Tony Collins got a wow pin) or got recognition otherwise (like the judge whom even vpw didnt think was right for taking the stage- but ok'd him because he was famous.) As someone pointed out, they were trotted out as if they were "pfal success stories", despite them achieving their accomplishments BEFORE pfal.

[WordWolf in boldface again.] IIRC, the five "gift ministries" were not required for ordination, and helps and governments WERE included. That's fine since they're in the Epistles as well. However, one always heard about "the five gift ministries" like they were the upper tier of ordination, and the others were the lower tier. And forget ever getting a straight answer on who has what.

BTW, those 5 "gift ministries" were mentioned in the abstract, and there were "reverends" ("ministers") in twi, but it was nearly impossible to ever pin anyone down on exactly WHO was WHAT. Nobody ever seemed to have a SPECIFIC "ministry", and specific questions were met with a song-and-dance that answered NOTHING. The exception, of course, being vpw. He called HIMSELF "THE Teacher." And had other people do it. (It was right in Session 12 of the tapes.) This suggested he had that "gift ministry." And he made up the definition of an apostle as "one who brings new light to his generation. It may be old light, but to the generation he brings it to-it is new." at the same time he asserted that God told him He would teach vpw like people hadn't been taught for 20 centuries if vpw would teach others. Does that or does that NOT look like he's written the definition to match his claims of himself? And he spoke for God to these people, and defined that a prophet is "one who speaks for God", and even predicted all sorts of disasters and troubles in the news- which he got from the John Birch Society and Liberty Lobby. Isnt the prediction thing the classic definition of "prophet"? And evangelist wasn't someone who actually evangelizes- he's someone who gets the other Christians fired up enough about evangelizing that they go out and do it. Convenient how this allows him to stay home, not have to travel on "crusades" like Billy Graham, and yet coincidentally match his own definition. And he made lots of little speeches about how much he cared for "his people" and watched out for them- and arranged little demonstrations and displays of same- and in private screamed at them when things were imperfect, and raped the women. Meanwhile the shepherd gives his life for the sheep, and the word for "pastor" comes from the word for "shepherd." It's almost like vpw was embarassed by Christ's example of same, and avoided the Gospels for that reason. So, depending on how clever vpw was that week, he left people thinking that he was a minister with all 5 "gift ministries", like that made him five times the minister everyone else was.

While I'm on the subject, let's have a moment to discuss the stratified society that was/is twi, and the pecking order, and who salutes who. We had the spiritual empties-those who never took the class, or weren't born again, depending on who was teaching that night and in what year. We had people in twi but hadn't taken the foundational (pfal) class. We had people who took the foundational, but not the intermediate. We had people who took the foundational and intermediate, but not the advanced class. See, here's where my own chart breaks down. There were wows and advanced-class grads. There were coordinators of various types. There was the college division. Ok, to the twig coordinator saluted to the branch coordinator, who saluted the territory coordinator, who saluted the limb coordinator, who saluted the regional coordinator, who saluted the trunk coordinator, who saluted the bod. THAT part's easy to see. But where did the other positions-like worldwide outreach-fit in? Where did those other positions fit? What about the reverends? Recognized corp? wows that went twice? And other stuff I've never heard of?

Here's what twi used. Ephesians 4:10-12. " 10He who descended is Himself also He who ascended far above all the heavens, so that He might fill all things.) 11And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ;" And in some twi doctrine (pfal proper), all Christians had "Christ in them" and were fantastic. HOWEVER, AFTER that, then you get into the hierarchy, and the gift ministries mentioned there- Apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, teachers- were part of the hierarchy.

Sharon answered mine- "Blitzkrieg Bop." (By the Ramones and covered since then.) Ca Dreaming may have answered hers correctly.

No, I just named your song, and posted another (hetero).

Next song. "They're forming in a straight line They're going through a tight wind The kids are losing their minds"

I'm not sure, but I think the answer to both is the same. PDF stands for "Portable Document Format." It squeezes down document files into a smaller format, a bit. Apparently, some people consider PDFs as superior for posting a document rather than as a .doc or whatever. Further, since people can make .docs look pretty, but they take up a lot of resources compared to a .txt file of identical content, trimming down their requirements is a handy thing. Then pdf readers like Adobe Acrobat can be used to read them, and blow up the page, or whatever. That's as best I can figure it.

Ok, this one's Don Henley's "Heart of the Matter". I forget whether that or "End of the Innocence" is the title-song for the album. But "End of the Innocence" is a LOT better-known.

Young Frankenstein Gene Hackman the Quick and the Dead

Just to make it official, CORRECT. It's got a lot of clever little lines.