WordWolf

So do I. Not as much as Windows applications, but I find they're both HUGE files and INTRUSIVE. Smaller programs seem to be more useful to me. I would NOT do this, except while downloading a firewall PROGRAM. The Windows "firewall" that camewith Windows Service Pack 2 was designed to be "better than nothing" and "better than the previous one." It succeeds in this. However, 1/2 a firewall's protection doesn't exist with this- there's no protection against a resident program dialing out if it slips past your security. So, I would download a firewall like ZoneAlarm. The basic one has never let me down, and the pay version is even better. Running Windows Update should always be done. This does not substitute for an antivirus, and neither does Windows Defender. (That's more an antispyware program.) There are at least 3 good free antivirus programs. AVG is good, and is kind to newbies. Avira AntiVir is better, and has a smaller "footprint" on the hard-drive. Avast! is better still. From what she's saying, sounds like she's also using Avira already.

Very nice summaries, there, HCW. I'd like to note-for those arriving late to this show- that HCW spent a number of years on-staff, and interacted face-to-face with vpw more than most of the posters here. (Not all together- but few interacted as much or more.)

And the "don't go to university and get a degree" stuff all ground to a halt in time for the bot's kids to attend college. These are the sort of things that make you go "Hmmmmm....."

Then it's not Happy Days, either-Tom Bosley is not a Howard. (Unless he chose the stage name "Tom Bosley", which would run counter to this being a clue.)

The ARSENAL of Freedom, which was Minos' advertising name. There was a weapon in space, menacing the Enterprise, and one on the planet, endangering the away team. This episode featured Captain Picard endangering his life on an Away Mission, one of the rare Saucer Separations (Encounter at Farpoint, Best of Both Worlds II, Arsenal of Freedom and Generations seem to have been ALL of them) Riker's claim to serve on the Good Ship Lollipop, and Vinny Schiavelli as the computerized salesman. Picard figured out pretty fast that one of their clever weapons was so clever it wiped out their civilization, but took FAR too long to figure out how to stop the weapons. (I kept saying "I'll take it!" to the television thru much of the sales pitch in the second half.) Go, George!

Myself, I prefer to stick to the hypercritical Greek Texts like the Phillips and the Hershey Text, and only rarely extend my research to the Estrasainto Aramaic Texts like the Pecrapa.

As for Donnie F being an influence on lcm, I'll take as my source lcm's own words in "VP and Me" (which was discussed on the "vp and me in wonderland thread as seen here: http://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/index.ph...c=8019&st=0 ) lcm said "The first time that LCM saw Dr. was when he was a senior at the University of Kansas. LCM went to twig first and found the teaching to be tremendous (electrifying). Donny Fugit taught." As for vpw himself, I personally love the first thing out of vpw's mouth when he first met lcm, months to a year later. "When he was first introduced to Dr Wierwille, Dr said to him 'Hello-Well I have to go and eat this piece of cake.' " Looking back, this was his first personal interaction with vpw. With the cold light of day, vpw sounds incredibly shallow and secular. This young man comes up to learn the Bible-vpw blows him off for dessert. He didn't even invite him along-he had to "GO" and eat his cake.

Actually, the quote was about the First Corps that was renamed the Zero Corps, and the second group was officially called The First Corps. (Meaning 2 groups were first called that, but one was disbanded and were stripped of their title, and the second one was allowed to finish and got the name.) Then we got a THIRD group of people who are NOW called The First Corps. When none of the people from "The First Corps" (the second First Corps) was still in the group, (lcm HIMSELF was in the "Second Corps", which was the third sequence of Corps, after the 2 First Corps,) lcm took a bunch of the long-timers still in twi and said "these are now the First Corps." So, the people currently being called "the First Corps" by twi were never IN the corps and never graduated the corps, and are now the THIRD group of people to be called "The First Corps." So, 3 First Corps: A) First group of Corps. vpw cut the program since they actually thought for themselves. They were later nicknamed "the Zero Corps" since vpw took their name. B) Second group of Corps. vpw allowed this more submissive group to finish, and gave this second group the name "First Corps." C) A bunch of old-timers still in. Despite never being in the Corps program, they were bunched together and declared "the First Corps" by lcm, who made this their honorary title to disguise the fact that all the members of the first 2 groups had all left. Of course, then vpw made formal programs of each one, and dropped their histories and made them all look like his idea...

What year was it when medical attention became OFFICIALLY known as "THIRD AID" instead of FIRST aid on grounds? I know it was while vpw was still alive. (First and Second aid would be "praying or getting someone else to pray." THEN you could have an aspirin.) Granted, locally, we didn't follow the rule for hq- we prayed while taking the aspirin, but if hq had been the absolute standard in the late 80s that they were in the late 90s, then, by golly, taking the aspirin would have been something done in secret. Anyone else remembering criticisms of insurance? I'm sure I'm not the only one who heard-and READ- that LIFE insurance should be called DEATH insurance, and heard criticisms of having a policy. Oh, and there was an interesting double-standard on the mental health professionals. I know there was a guy who was one who was in who got a lot of respect- he was the cover story on one of the Heart Magazines. I don't know what they told T--- C------ in private about his field. I DO know that even CONSIDERING going INTO the field, though, would get you lectures from some of the Advanced class grads and so on.

"Tell me about your ship, Riker. It's the Enterprise, isn't it?" "No, the name of my ship is the 'Lollipop'." "I have no knowledge of that ship." "It's just been commissioned. It's a Good Ship." "What's the armament on the Lollipop?" "One of the final tests in advance navigation at the Academy presents the student with three options. When Rice took the test, he rejected all of them and offered one of his own." "I'd call that arrogant." "But it paid off -- he received the top mark. And now that test has four options. The original three... plus his." "... Where we live by the motto -- peace through superior firepower. Come -- allow us to meet your needs. If you need a little something special, be it for one target -- or multiple targets -- we got it, you'll see it..." "The patient has lost a great deal of blood from multiple lacerations. What's your diagnosis, Doctor?" "Your patient is going into shock." "What do I do?" "Elevate the legs and keep her warm." "All right. Stay with me, Doctor. Keep talking..." "Bridge crew - prepare to move to the Battle Bridge." "You're going to separate?" "Yes. I want you to take the Saucer Section and proceed immediately for Starbase One-zero-three." This episode had a guest-star: Vincent Schiavelli.

Here's what I posted in the "wonderland" timeline (5.6): ============= "vpw spent his life drinking alcoholic beverages and smoking cigarettes and cigars- tobacco products. Although he usually did it "off-camera", many people knew some of this. Everyone knew he at least smoked, but he seemed to chain-smoke when "no one was watching." Furthermore, he had a "coffee cup" next to him for morning meetings and so on-and often, the contents had nothing to do with coffee. Those who ever commented on it (who were few enough among those who noticed) were treated to his comments about us not being "under condemnation" and thus it wasn't sinful, and therefore had no consequences. However, there WERE consequences.... By 1984, the long-term exposure to alcohol-which damages internal organs, including those that act as the body's filtration system and also damages the brain- and long-term exposure to tobacco-which is a known cancer-causing agent (unlike studio lights)- resulted in some permanent damage to vpw' body. He acquired cancer of the eye and liver, and suffered a stroke. vpw quite vocally-and often- announced that the eye damage was the result of getting cancer from the studio lights used when filming PFAL- thus saying it was the result of virtuous activity, and used to give the students a guilty conscience. Once, when addressing the corps, he was speaking on personal committment to God. He said "I gave my EYE-what are YOU willing to give?" Further, in private, vpw was MOST disturbed that he had ANY physical problems, especially this one. He claimed he'd never been sick or needed an aspirin EVER- not ONE DAY in his life-before this. Not even in PRIVATE did he ever seem to admit he'd exposed his body to carcinogens for DECADES. He had surgery that removed the cancer-stricken eye. The details of the stroke were COMPLETELY hidden-although there were witnesses- and the existence of any cancer produced a problem. According to vpw's DOCTRINE, any Christian should be able to believe sufficiently to burn out a cancer from their body. vpw had slowly manipulated his personal image to the point that he was frequently seen as some sort of super-Christian-which is what he wanted. However, this meant he should have EASILY believed away his cancer. WORSE, he'd taught in the Advanced class that, since a cancer has a life of its own (like algae), it must be the result of devil activity. Since vpw was supposedly a super-Christian, he should have been able to deflect such an assault easily. However, rather than adjust his image, or correct his doctrine-which had already hurt many other Christians-he simply hid the cause of his descent into death. In 1985 the "Word over the World Auditorium" opened at the organizations hq on the farm. vpw died May 20, 1985 at age 68. According to his death certificate, the cause was cancer of the liver and of the eye. According to most people in twi at the time, the cause was UNKNOWN. The most commonly-stated reason was "he got tired of fighting." In the last few months of his life, vpw visited Gartmore and spoke privately with Chr1s Ge*r. He (CG) later claimed that his own paper which he wrote afterwards-"the Passing of the Patriarch"-was based entirely on private conversations with vpw. (Some people believe him, some do not.) That paper-among other things-also claims that vpw would have been able to "believe himself healthy" if he'd wanted to." =========

"Ballistic:Ecks vs Sever"?

"Tell me about your ship, Riker. It's the Enterprise, isn't it?" "No, the name of my ship is the 'Lollipop'." "I have no knowledge of that ship." "It's just been commissioned. It's a Good Ship." "What's the armament on the Lollipop?" "One of the final tests in advance navigation at the Academy presents the student with three options. When Rice took the test, he rejected all of them and offered one of his own." "I'd call that arrogant." "But it paid off -- he received the top mark. And now that test has four options. The original three... plus his."

[WordWolf in boldface.]

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(Next quote) I love this scene.... "What's the armament on the Lollipop?"

Well, see, as OM sees it, they're no longer the sweetness-and-light group that he remembers ANYMORE. That was the case until just before he left. Until then, it was nearly perfect- especially at the organizational level and locally where he was. (And anyplace else doesn't count.) Oldiesman left twi in the early 90s. He claims his PARTICULAR twig/branch was pristine and he never had ANY of the problems we saw. He claims the way things were in the 70s were always that way until the day they kicked him out. He claims having his family in and all together had no effect on any of that. He claims everything he ever got in writing represented 100% truth on matters, no matter what happened later. (Like the loy-alty letter.) In fact, all the draconian policies-except for Oldies leaving-never happened, no matter how many eyewitness accounts and audio clips say otherwise. Now, then, Bowling for Soup covered an SR-71 song which I feel is relevant. Here's the lyrics. "Debbie just hit the wall, She never had it all One prozac a day, Husband's a C.P.A. Here dreams went out the door, Once she turned 24 Only been with one man. What happened to her plans? She was gonna be an actress, She was gonna be a star She was gonna shake that foot On the hood of Whitesnake's car Now her SUV has become the enemy. Looks at her average life Nothing has been alright... since Bruce Springsteen, Madonna Way before Nirvana there was U2 And Blondie and music still on MTV Her 2 kids in high school They tell her that she's uncool Cause she's still preoccupied With 19, 19, 1985. She's seen all the classics at least a hundred times Breakfast Club, Pretty in Pink, Fast Times At Ridgemont She rocks out to Wham! Not a big Limp Bizkit fan Never knew George was gay, Hoped they'd hook up one day Where's her fairy tale, where's her dream? Where's the quarterback From her high school football team? Where's her fairy tale, where's her dream? How many times will she ask herself What happened to me? (the rubber broke) ... When Bruce Springsteen, Madonna Way before Nirvana there was U2 And Blondie and music still on MTV Her 2 kids in high school They tell her that she's uncool Cause she's still preoccupied With 19, 19, 1985. She hates time / make it stop When did Motley Crue become classic rock She hates time / make it stop Bruce Springsteen, Madonna Way before Nirvana there was U2 And Blondie and music still on MTV Her 2 kids in high school They tell her that she's uncool Cause she's still preoccupied With 19, 19, 1985." The relevance, I trust, is not lost on you.

ckmkeon believes that-just as the GSC is deficient- the current twi is deficient, also. He's said that the magic was all about vpw, and when twi wandered away from vpw, that's when twi lost it. He was taught to be a vpw worshipper, not a twi worshipper, in short.

Page-235, TWLiL: ""We started the first Way Corps then, the fall of 1969, especially for that purpose, to prepare leaders. There were nine of them-some married, some single, younger and older. They stayed until the spring, and then I gave them the privilege of leaving. You see, they never got it together among themselves. They didn't have that commitment, that discipline."

No, I'll go with my other guess... "the Omega Glory." Yangs vs Kohms.

Is this when they went into that other planet's past? Kirk to one time, Spock and Bones to another?

YES. If any misfortune befalls you, it's your fault, because your believing is supposed to act like a forcefield and bounce all problems away from you. If one gets through, that's a lapse on your part. Please note they never apply this to vpw dying of cancer before reaching age 70, which at least would be internally-consistent. Leadership is never blamed like this. Instead, it's the result of people AROUND the leader failing. The leader is NEVER at fault. ========== This whole doctrine is a mainstay of the Word-Faith Movement, as embodied by EW Kenyon and championed by preachers like Kenneth Hagin (who plagiarizes Kenyon all the time.)

He's a teenager who was taught by his parents, who never saw vpw's bad side, nor twi's bad side, and concluded it had none. He was taught that, and no evidence will change his mind, so don't confuse him with facts. His entire impression of vpw has come second-hand from people who thought the sun shone out of his navel. His education-which has been short of a few things I'd have made sure he knew- has resulted in him making statements like "While Dr. Wierwille might have had a devil spirit I don't see why that really matters."

Raf's done some work on this subject. The upshot of it: The tithe is never mentioned in the New Testament. The tithe is never mentioned as being required in the Old Testament. As Raf himself summarized: "According to the Bible, Abraham tithed once, and not of his income, and was called the friend of God. Well, shucks, I tithed once too. Guess I'm covered." You can get a PDF of Raf's work on this on the main page at http://www.livingepistlessociety.org/ It's the first link on the left: "An Overview of the Tithe."

There's a couple of possibilities here. I'll start with the ST:TNG episode where Data's on a settled planet (pre-First Contact with the Federation), has amnesia, and was sent to retrieve hazardous materials-nuclear irradiated metal, in some sort of suitcase.